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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 10:31am

 miamizsun wrote:

in the future you will eat for nutrition first and taste second...a distant second



 

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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 10:31am

 miamizsun wrote:

in the future you will eat for nutrition first and taste second...a distant second



 
Thats not the problem. I am allergic to most other meats.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 10:28am

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I used to be able to get decent prices on beef at Aldi's and they always had $2 or $3 off specials each week to move out the grey haired meats. Now all they have is the vacuumed packed crap at Malwart or higher prices.

 
in the future you will eat for nutrition first and taste second...a very distant second




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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 10:21am

I used to be able to get decent prices on beef at Aldi's and they always had $2 or $3 off specials each week to move out the grey haired meats. Now all they have is the vacuumed packed crap at Malwart or higher prices.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 10:18am

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Hell I can't afford it anymore anyway especially grass fed, organic. {#Doh}

 
One of local stores used to make excellent in store roast beef, but they stopped when the prices got so high people stopped buying it and they were losing money on the spoilage. Now all they carry is the vacuum packed preservative laden kind.


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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 10:04am

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Hell I can't afford it anymore anyway especially grass fed, organic.{#Doh}

 
That cannot be true.  Someone here recently said inflation is well under 2%  {#Wink}


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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 9:59am

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Hell I can't afford it anymore anyway especially grass fed, organic.{#Doh}

 
And its one of only a couple of meats I am NOT allergic to and its gotten to much out of my price range. That only leaves Lamb (also to expensive) and Turkey which I am sick to death of. Oh and the only fish I am not allergic to is Mackerel.
 
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 9:55am

 DaveInVA wrote: 

Hell I can't afford it anymore anyway especially grass fed, organic.{#Doh}
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 9:51am

Study says raising beef creates more pollution than pork, poultry or dairy


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 8, 2014 - 12:26pm

another environmental disaster in the name of progress...
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Posted: Jun 12, 2014 - 7:55am


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Posted: May 29, 2014 - 2:32pm

Species Extinction Happening 1,000 Times Faster Because of Humans?
At the same time, new technology is helping conservation make big strides

(...) This kind of citizen science has exploded in recent years because of smartphones. Now, according to a new review of research about Earth's biodiversity, it's giving conservationists hope that new technology can slow extinctions.

That's good news, because according to a review published on May 29 in the journal Science, current extinction rates are up to a thousand times higher than they would be if people weren't in the picture.

Study leader Stuart Pimm, a conservation ecologist at Duke University and contributor to National Geographic's News Watch blog, and his colleagues analyzed various data sources—in particular the International Union for Conservation of Nature's Red List of Threatened Species, a global inventory of species—to produce the first major review of extinction data.

Mobile apps, GIS satellite data, and online crowdsourcing, Pimm says, may be a partial antidote to the problem. Through these technologies, "we're mobilizing millions of people around the world, and we're on the cusp of learning very much more about where species are than we have ever known in the past." That's critical, he explains, because now "we know where the species are, we know where the threats are, and—even though the situation is very bleak—we are better able to manage things." (...)


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Posted: Mar 31, 2014 - 11:50am

What did that ‘NASA-funded collapse study’ really say?
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Posted: Mar 14, 2014 - 10:37pm

 RichardPrins wrote: 
duh.


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Posted: Mar 14, 2014 - 10:32pm

Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?
Natural and social scientists develop new model of how 'perfect storm' of crises could unravel global system

A new study sponsored by Nasa's Goddard Space Flight Center has highlighted the prospect that global industrial civilisation could collapse in coming decades due to unsustainable resource exploitation and increasingly unequal wealth distribution.

Noting that warnings of 'collapse' are often seen to be fringe or controversial, the study attempts to make sense of compelling historical data showing that "the process of rise-and-collapse is actually a recurrent cycle found throughout history." Cases of severe civilisational disruption due to "precipitous collapse - often lasting centuries - have been quite common."

The research project is based on a new cross-disciplinary 'Human And Nature DYnamical' (HANDY) model, led by applied mathematician Safa Motesharri of the US National Science Foundation-supported National Socio-Environmental Synthesis Center, in association with a team of natural and social scientists. The study based on the HANDY model has been accepted for publication in the peer-reviewed Elsevier journal, Ecological Economics.

It finds that according to the historical record even advanced, complex civilisations are susceptible to collapse, raising questions about the sustainability of modern civilisation:

"The fall of the Roman Empire, and the equally (if not more) advanced Han, Mauryan, and Gupta Empires, as well as so many advanced Mesopotamian Empires, are all testimony to the fact that advanced, sophisticated, complex, and creative civilizations can be both fragile and impermanent."

By investigating the human-nature dynamics of these past cases of collapse, the project identifies the most salient interrelated factors which explain civilisational decline, and which may help determine the risk of collapse today: namely, Population, Climate, Water, Agriculture, and Energy.

These factors can lead to collapse when they converge to generate two crucial social features: "the stretching of resources due to the strain placed on the ecological carrying capacity"; and "the economic stratification of society into Elites (rich) and Masses (or "Commoners") (poor)" These social phenomena have played "a central role in the character or in the process of the collapse," in all such cases over "the last five thousand years."

Currently, high levels of economic stratification are linked directly to overconsumption of resources, with "Elites" based largely in industrialised countries responsible for both:

"... accumulated surplus is not evenly distributed throughout society, but rather has been controlled by an elite. The mass of the population, while producing the wealth, is only allocated a small portion of it by elites, usually at or just above subsistence levels."

The study challenges those who argue that technology will resolve these challenges by increasing efficiency:

"Technological change can raise the efficiency of resource use, but it also tends to raise both per capita resource consumption and the scale of resource extraction, so that, absent policy effects, the increases in consumption often compensate for the increased efficiency of resource use."

Productivity increases in agriculture and industry over the last two centuries has come from "increased (rather than decreased) resource throughput," despite dramatic efficiency gains over the same period.

Modelling a range of different scenarios, Motesharri and his colleagues conclude that under conditions "closely reflecting the reality of the world today... we find that collapse is difficult to avoid." In the first of these scenarios, civilisation:

".... appears to be on a sustainable path for quite a long time, but even using an optimal depletion rate and starting with a very small number of Elites, the Elites eventually consume too much, resulting in a famine among Commoners that eventually causes the collapse of society. It is important to note that this Type-L collapse is due to an inequality-induced famine that causes a loss of workers, rather than a collapse of Nature."

Another scenario focuses on the role of continued resource exploitation, finding that "with a larger depletion rate, the decline of the Commoners occurs faster, while the Elites are still thriving, but eventually the Commoners collapse completely, followed by the Elites."

In both scenarios, Elite wealth monopolies mean that they are buffered from the most "detrimental effects of the environmental collapse until much later than the Commoners", allowing them to "continue 'business as usual' despite the impending catastrophe." The same mechanism, they argue, could explain how "historical collapses were allowed to occur by elites who appear to be oblivious to the catastrophic trajectory (most clearly apparent in the Roman and Mayan cases)."

Applying this lesson to our contemporary predicament, the study warns that:

"While some members of society might raise the alarm that the system is moving towards an impending collapse and therefore advocate structural changes to society in order to avoid it, Elites and their supporters, who opposed making these changes, could point to the long sustainable trajectory 'so far' in support of doing nothing."

However, the scientists point out that the worst-case scenarios are by no means inevitable, and suggest that appropriate policy and structural changes could avoid collapse, if not pave the way toward a more stable civilisation.

The two key solutions are to reduce economic inequality so as to ensure fairer distribution of resources, and to dramatically reduce resource consumption by relying on less intensive renewable resources and reducing population growth:

"Collapse can be avoided and population can reach equilibrium if the per capita rate of depletion of nature is reduced to a sustainable level, and if resources are distributed in a reasonably equitable fashion."

The NASA-funded HANDY model offers a highly credible wake-up call to governments, corporations and business - and consumers - to recognise that 'business as usual' cannot be sustained, and that policy and structural changes are required immediately.

Although the study is largely theoretical, a number of other more empirically-focused studies - by KPMG and the UK Government Office of Science for instance - have warned that the convergence of food, water and energy crises could create a 'perfect storm' within about fifteen years. But these 'business as usual' forecasts could be very conservative.

Dr Nafeez Ahmed is executive director of the Institute for Policy Research & Development and author of A User's Guide to the Crisis of Civilisation: And How to Save It among other books. Follow him on Twitter @nafeezahmed


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Posted: Feb 5, 2014 - 11:32am

Fracking is depleting water supplies in America's driest areas, report shows

America's oil and gas rush is depleting water supplies in the driest and most drought-prone areas of the country, from Texas to California, new research has found.

Of the nearly 40,000 oil and gas wells drilled since 2011, three-quarters were located in areas where water is scarce, and 55% were in areas experiencing drought, the report by the Ceres investor network found.

Fracking those wells used 97bn gallons of water, raising new concerns about unforeseen costs of America's energy rush.

"Hydraulic fracturing is increasing competitive pressures for water in some of the country's most water-stressed and drought-ridden regions," said Mindy Lubber, president of the Ceres green investors' network.

Without new tougher regulations on water use, she warned industry could be on a "collision course" with other water users.

"It's a wake-up call," said Prof James Famiglietti, a hydrologist at the University of California, Irvine. "We understand as a country that we need more energy but it is time to have a conversation about what impacts there are, and do our best to try to minimise any damage." (...)


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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 12:09am

Oil sands pollution two to three times higher than thought (Update)

The amount of harmful pollutants released in the process of recovering oil from tar sands in western Canada is likely far higher than corporate interests say, university researchers said Monday.

Actual levels of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon (PAH) emissions into the air may be two to three times higher than estimated, said the findings in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US journal.

The study raises new questions about the accuracy of environmental impact assessments on the tar sands, just days after a US State Department report said the controversial Keystone pipeline project to bring oil from Canada to Texas would have little impact on climate change or the environment. (...)


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Posted: Jan 16, 2014 - 2:50pm

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
The Ogallala aquifer can be the poster child.
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Posted: Jan 16, 2014 - 2:45pm

 helenofjoy wrote:

I saw this article.  Sad sad sad.  I've felt for some years now that human beings act like a cancer on to this planet. 

 
It ain't no act.
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