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sirdroseph

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Posted: Jul 12, 2013 - 9:34am

From Edward Snowden, he is ok.....for now:

WikiLeaks has posted a long statement by Edward Snowden, dated today at 5pm Moscow time. Here it is in full:

Hello. My name is Ed Snowden. A little over one month ago, I had family, a home in paradise, and I lived in great comfort. I also had the capability without any warrant to search for, seize, and read your communications. Anyone’s communications at any time. That is the power to change people’s fates.

It is also a serious violation of the law. The 4th and 5th Amendments to the Constitution of my country, Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and numerous statutes and treaties forbid such systems of massive, pervasive surveillance. While the US Constitution marks these programs as illegal, my government argues that secret court rulings, which the world is not permitted to see, somehow legitimize an illegal affair. These rulings simply corrupt the most basic notion of justice – that it must be seen to be done. The immoral cannot be made moral through the use of secret law.

I believe in the principle declared at Nuremberg in 1945: "Individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience. Therefore individual citizens have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring."

Accordingly, I did what I believed right and began a campaign to correct this wrongdoing. I did not seek to enrich myself. I did not seek to sell US secrets. I did not partner with any foreign government to guarantee my safety. Instead, I took what I knew to the public, so what affects all of us can be discussed by all of us in the light of day, and I asked the world for justice.

That moral decision to tell the public about spying that affects all of us has been costly, but it was the right thing to do and I have no regrets.

Since that time, the government and intelligence services of the United States of America have attempted to make an example of me, a warning to all others who might speak out as I have. I have been made stateless and hounded for my act of political expression. The United States Government has placed me on no-fly lists. It demanded Hong Kong return me outside of the framework of its laws, in direct violation of the principle of non-refoulement – the Law of Nations. It has threatened with sanctions countries who would stand up for my human rights and the UN asylum system. It has even taken the unprecedented step of ordering military allies to ground a Latin American president’s plane in search for a political refugee. These dangerous escalations represent a threat not just to the dignity of Latin America, but to the basic rights shared by every person, every nation, to live free from persecution, and to seek and enjoy asylum.

Yet even in the face of this historically disproportionate aggression, countries around the world have offered support and asylum. These nations, including Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Ecuador have my gratitude and respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless. By refusing to compromise their principles in the face of intimidation, they have earned the respect of the world. It is my intention to travel to each of these countries to extend my personal thanks to their people and leaders.

I announce today my formal acceptance of all offers of support or asylum I have been extended and all others that may be offered in the future. With, for example, the grant of asylum provided by Venezuela’s President Maduro, my asylee status is now formal, and no state has a basis by which to limit or interfere with my right to enjoy that asylum. As we have seen, however, some governments in Western European and North American states have demonstrated a willingness to act outside the law, and this behavior persists today. This unlawful threat makes it impossible for me to travel to Latin America and enjoy the asylum granted there in accordance with our shared rights.

This willingness by powerful states to act extra-legally represents a threat to all of us, and must not be allowed to succeed. Accordingly, I ask for your assistance in requesting guarantees of safe passage from the relevant nations in securing my travel to Latin America, as well as requesting asylum in Russia until such time as these states accede to law and my legal travel is permitted. I will be submitting my request to Russia today, and hope it will be accepted favorably.

If you have any questions, I will answer what I can.

winter

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 8:39pm
Red_Dragon wrote: Does anyone seriously believe that any president politician hasn't violated campaign promises? Please. So I'm just curious: how do you keep your needles so sharp? Don't they get damaged on the turntable when they hit the gaps in the disks you're spinning?

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 8:34pm
Does anyone seriously believe that any president politician hasn't violated campaign promises? Please.

kurtster

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 7:58pm
Red_Dragon wrote: Does anyone seriously believe that the current occupant of the white house is the first one to preside over this sort of thing? Please. No, he is not the first. But with apathy like yours, he won't be the last one either.

DaveInSaoMiguel

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 7:52pm

bokey

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 6:48am
Red_Dragon wrote: Does anyone seriously believe that the current occupant of the white house is the first one to preside over this sort of thing? Please. I don't. I did hope he would stop it though, that's why I voted for him. Naivete and false hopes on me. I thought he was the guy who would give us our country back.

Sean-E-Sean

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 6:10am
Red_Dragon wrote: Does anyone seriously believe that the current occupant of the white house is the first one to preside over this sort of thing? Please. https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 6:06am

winter wrote:

I don't know. At least the smart phone wouldn't smell as bad.

I know! Aside from the physical unlikelyness of actually having either up my nose, I did weigh the merits of both and think we're probably headed for the smartphone-in-your-sinuses as it is. Can't see any benefits of RPBs up your snout other than the obvious element of WTF as it shoots out and attacks muggers, et al.

sirdroseph

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 6:02am

Red_Dragon wrote:

Does anyone seriously believe that the current occupant of the white house is the first one to preside over this sort of thing? Please.

I think only partisans with agendas think or try to portray that, other than those people who are easily identifiable, I have not heard this sentiment. Most people I talk to know that this is a bipartisan institutionalized problem which is why I hate it when people try to bring partisan politics into the war on you. Obama is responsible now only because he is the current President carrying on the Bush legacy quite nicely. As a matter of fact, I call the 2nd Obama term the 4th Bush term in regards to overreaching government authority. So the answer to your question is no, reasonable people do not believe this.

winter

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 5:58am
ScottFromWyoming wrote: what I thought bokey wrote: I'd rather have a rabid pit bull in my nose than a smart phone. I don't know. At least the smart phone wouldn't smell as bad.

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 5:56am
what I thought bokey wrote: I'd rather have a rabid pit bull in my nose than a smart phone.

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 5:55am
Does anyone seriously believe that the current occupant of the white house is the first one to preside over this sort of thing? Please.

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 5:52am
mutepoint wrote:

sirdroseph

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 4:37am
mutepoint wrote:

bokey

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Posted: Jul 9, 2013 - 11:06pm

miamizsun wrote:

The NSA Has Inserted Its Code Into Android OS, Or Three Quarters Of All Smartphones

Over a decade ago, it was discovered that the NSA embedded backdoor access into Windows 95, and likely into virtually all other subsequent internet connected, desktop-based operating systems. However, with the passage of time, more and more people went "mobile", and as a result the NSA had to adapt. And adapt they have: as Bloomberg reports, "The NSA is quietly writing code for Google’s Android OS. "

Is it ironic that the same "don't be evil" Google which went to such great lengths in the aftermath of the Snowden scandal to wash its hands of snooping on its customers and even filed a request with the secretive FISA court asking permission to disclose more information about the government’s data requests, is embedding NSA code into its mobile operating system, which according to IDC runs on three-quarters of all smartphones shipped in the first quarter? Yes, yes it is.

Google spokeswoman Gina Scigliano confirms that the company has already inserted some of the NSA’s programming in Android OS. "All Android code and contributors are publicly available for review at source. android. com. " Scigliano says, declining to comment further.

I'd rather have a rabid pit bull in my house than a smart phone.

miamizsun

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Posted: Jul 9, 2013 - 8:22pm

The NSA Has Inserted Its Code Into Android OS, Or Three Quarters Of All Smartphones

Google spokeswoman Gina Scigliano confirms that the company has already inserted some of the NSA’s programming in Android OS. "All Android code and contributors are publicly available for review at source.android.com." Scigliano says, declining to comment further.

sirdroseph

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Posted: Jul 9, 2013 - 5:21am
A little good news for once in the ever futile attempt of maintaining some semblance of checking all consuming govt. intrusion: Court Rejects State Secrets Defense in Dragnet Surveillance Case

bokey

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Posted: Jul 7, 2013 - 8:18am

steeler wrote:

Understood. Thanks.

It's frustrating, because my strengths are LME and OEX day trading, but I can't take on that risky stuff with Pops future medical bills uncertain.

Without going into specifics, since I took on the caretaking gig, my income has dropped significantly.

I've got over 100K sitting their at 0. 25%, for liquidity, when I used to get a return of 6-7% on that alone. The rest I have to keep in safe blue chippers with little to no risk.

If I could just chill at the pre Obama interest rates, I'd have no worries at all.

Or go nuts on day trading and probably stroke out. {#Lol}

This isn't turning out the way I planned, and I guess I'm looking for someone to blame.

I worked my ass off for years to retire early and thought it was a done deal.

steeler

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Posted: Jul 7, 2013 - 7:43am

bokey wrote:

I'm going to try to not comment about Obama anymore.He's just one guy,probably trying to to do what he thinks is right.

My anger comes mostly from him re appointing Bush's guy Bernanke as Fed Chairman and keeping the interest rates down,thus hurting people who based their retirement on better interest rates for safe investments.Now I'm out there risking my principal looking for dividend returning stocks,which wouldn't be necessary with reasonable interest rates.

I've spent so many years taking care of my parents,it's cost me me ~ 500k to maybe a mil and my tech skills are years behind,and I don't know if I'll have the energy to start another small business.

I went from safe at home plate to trying to bunt my way to first base in the last 7 years.

Understood. Thanks.

bokey

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Posted: Jul 7, 2013 - 7:39am

steeler wrote:

I hesitate to ask, but what are these plans that you have labeled as evil and traitorous?

I'm going to try to not comment about Obama anymore. He's just one guy, probably trying to to do what he thinks is right.

My anger comes mostly from him re appointing Bush's guy Bernanke as Fed Chairman and keeping the interest rates down, thus hurting people who based their retirement on better interest rates for safe investments. Now I'm out there risking my principal looking for dividend returning stocks, which wouldn't be necessary with reasonable interest rates.

I've spent so many years taking care of my parents, it's cost me me ~ 500k to maybe a mil and my tech skills are years behind, and I don't know if I'll have the energy to start another small business.

I went from safe at home plate to trying to bunt my way to first base in the last 7 years.

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