Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Apr 4, 2018 - 7:34pm
kurtster wrote:
We'll just have to wait and see where they end up.
From what I have learned is that this group was put together by an activist group in San Diego as a political stunt meant to disrupt the American immigration debate and cause deeper polarization, as if that's possible. This evidently is an annual event. This year it seems to have finally caught the attention they have long been seeking. These migrants are merely pawns of the activists.
I already knew this before reading your article.
If this group were merely seeking 'asylum', then they will have stopped once they reached the safety of Mexico as many in the past have done. To go beyond the closest and most culturally similar place that offers safety from their oppressors from which they have 'escaped' is not seeking asylum, its a migration. That is where the argument changes. Those that try and conflate an unauthorized migration with seeking asylum are the problem.
Like I said, we'll have to wait and see what happens when and if they actually show up at the border. Meanwhile, there is nothing wrong with preparing for their arrival that we have clearly been told by the organizers is coming. Its not like it is not being threatened to happen.
They obviously want to get to the United States so they can commit crimes!
From what I have learned is that this group was put together by an activist group in San Diego as a political stunt meant to disrupt the American immigration debate and cause deeper polarization, as if that's possible. This evidently is an annual event. This year it seems to have finally caught the attention they have long been seeking. These migrants are merely pawns of the activists. (...)
And you learned this where?
They're not just pawns of these alleged activists...
To go beyond the closest and most culturally similar place that offers safety from their oppressors from which they have 'escaped' is not seeking asylum, its a migration. That is where the argument changes.
This is where you change the argument. I don't think it's up to you to decide where people choose to seek asylum. "Culturally similar" or not, it's their business to seek a safe haven.
We'll just have to wait and see where they end up.
From what I have learned is that this group was put together by an activist group in San Diego as a political stunt meant to disrupt the American immigration debate and cause deeper polarization, as if that's possible. This evidently is an annual event. This year it seems to have finally caught the attention they have long been seeking. These migrants are merely pawns of the activists.
I already knew this before reading your article.
If this group were merely seeking 'asylum', then they will have stopped once they reached the safety of Mexico as many in the past have done. To go beyond the closest and most culturally similar place that offers safety from their oppressors from which they have 'escaped' is not seeking asylum, its a migration. That is where the argument changes. Those that try and conflate an unauthorized migration with seeking asylum are the problem.
Like I said, we'll have to wait and see what happens when and if they actually show up at the border. Meanwhile, there is nothing wrong with preparing for their arrival that we have clearly been told by the organizers is coming. Its not like it is not being threatened to happen.
It was the kind of story destined to take a dark turn through the conservative news media and grab President Trump’s attention: A vast horde of migrants was making its way through Mexico toward the United States, and no one was stopping them.
“Mysterious group deploys ‘caravan’ of illegal aliens headed for U.S. border,” warned Frontpage Mag, a site run by David Horowitz, a conservative commentator.
The Gateway Pundit, a website that was most recently in the news for spreading conspiracies about the school shooting in Parkland, Fla., suggested the real reason the migrants were trying to enter the United States was to collect social welfare benefits.
And as the president often does when immigration is at issue, he saw a reason for Americans to be afraid. “Getting more dangerous. ‘Caravans’ coming,” a Twitter post from Mr. Trump read.
The story of “the caravan” followed an arc similar to many events — whether real, embellished or entirely imagined — involving refugees and migrants that have roused intense suspicion and outrage on the right. The coverage tends to play on the fears that hiding among mass groups of immigrants are many criminals, vectors of disease and agents of terror. And often the president, who announced his candidacy by blaming Mexico for sending rapists and drug dealers into the United States, acts as an accelerant to the hysteria.
The sensationalization of this story and others like it seems to serve a common purpose for Mr. Trump and other immigration hard-liners: to highlight the twin dangers of freely roving migrants — especially those from Muslim countries — and lax immigration laws that grant them easy entry into Western nations.
The narrative on the right this week, for example, mostly omitted that many people in the caravan planned to resettle in Mexico, not the United States. And it ignored how many of those who did intend to come here would probably go through the legal process of requesting asylum at a border checkpoint — something miles of new wall and battalions of additional border patrol would not have stopped.
“They end up in schools on Long Island, some of which are MS-13!” declared Brian Kilmeade on the president’s preferred morning news program, “Fox & Friends,” referring to the predominantly Central American gang.
The coverage became so distorted that it prompted a reporter for Breitbart News who covers border migration, Brandon Darby, to push back. “I’m seeing a lot of right media cover this as ‘people coming illegally’ or as ‘illegal aliens.’ That is incorrect,” he wrote on Twitter. “They are coming to a port of entry and requesting refugee status. That is legal.”
In an interview, Mr. Darby said it was regrettable that the relatively routine occurrence of migrant caravans — which organizers rely on as a safety-in-numbers precaution against the violence that can happen along the trek — was being politicized. “The caravan isn’t something that’s a unique event,” he said. “And I think people are looking at it wrong. If you’re upset at the situation, it’s easier to be mad at the migrant than it is to be mad at the political leaders on both sides who won’t change the laws.”
As tends to be the case in these stories, the humanitarian aspects get glossed over as migrants are collapsed into one maligned category: hostile foreign invaders. (...)
That got shot down real quick once word got out....
Good, til now I hadn't heard, but its just one of many. They're gonna try and put em up everywhere ala Hurricane Katrina.
My solution is to either ship them home, immediately or if that isn't happening, ship them to all the cities such as New York and San Francisco, Oakland and others who have openly declared themselves 'Sanctuary Cities' . When a city steps up so boldly, it should be honored and the best way to do that is to ship them there where they will be welcomed with open arms. Don't schlepp them off to places that don't want them and cannot handle the financial burden, especially when we have cities who volunteered and can handle the financial investment for all these invaders.
Or Obama can do what Mexico does and ship them north another notch ...
Obama just got done speaking about the "humanitarian situation" on the border. He has downgraded it from what he previously called a "crisis". Funny how it got better even though its getting worse by the day.
Obama denied that his policies, specifically his executive order in 2012, has had any affect to cause this crisis. He said that he is powerless to do anything about it. He said that it is all the fault of Republicans in Congress and that they alone can make things better, if they give him money and pass his comprehensive immigration bill.
Obama obviously does not know what it means to be CIC and to defend our borders.
So there we have it. Its the Republicans fault as usual. Obama is blameless and powerless to do anything about it.
Willful failure to defend our borders against invasion is treason. I'd say impeach the SOB, but it would die in the Senate.
