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Posted: Aug 18, 2025 - 1:50pm

Trump trade advisor Peter Navarro wrote a very hostile op-ed in the FT today targeting India over its purchases of Russian oil, and threatening cessation of technology transfer and other retaliatory measures. The thing that does not make sense is that if the U.S. is anyways interested in rebuilding ties with Russia why is it so offended by India purchasing Russian oil?

There is a significant hostility which may be explained by frustration over India declining to reduce protectionist measures in its own economy and open it up to U.S. competition.

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Posted: Aug 18, 2025 - 10:42am

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When you prevent dividends... you reduce the access to capital, again harming the industry you're attempting to help/support/grow.



Doesnt hold, since most dividends are not reinvested in the Company, but the financial markets. 
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Posted: Aug 18, 2025 - 9:20am

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A U.S. manufacturer with a respectable 7 percent profit margin might want to use those profits to invest in expanded operations. But, with tariffs, those profits don’t stretch quite as far. Construction materials and new equipment are simply more expensive. The business may choose to hold onto those earnings or pay them out as dividends to shareholders rather than grow their business.

This is where we need to raise taxes on the "rich." Disincentivize excess shareholder returns so more capital is reinvested. 

When you prevent dividends... you reduce the access to capital, again harming the industry you're attempting to help/support/grow.

Raising taxes and lowering tariffs would help manufacturing grow.

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Posted: Aug 18, 2025 - 9:02am

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This is an informed, logical summation of why Trump's lack of vision and understanding undermines his own motivations.

Bringing manufacturing back to the US.... good.   Imposing tariffs that have spiked manufacturing costs... bad.  3 steps forward, 2 steps back (with another step or two back on the horizon)

A Tax Law for Manufacturers, but a Trade Policy Against Them




right.


A U.S. manufacturer with a respectable 7 percent profit margin might want to use those profits to invest in expanded operations. But, with tariffs, those profits don’t stretch quite as far. Construction materials and new equipment are simply more expensive. The business may choose to hold onto those earnings or pay them out as dividends to shareholders rather than grow their business.

This is where we need to raise taxes on the "rich." Disincentivize excess shareholder returns so more capital is reinvested. 
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Posted: Aug 18, 2025 - 8:23am

This is an informed, logical summation of why Trump's lack of vision and understanding undermines his own motivations.

Bringing manufacturing back to the US.... good.   Imposing tariffs that have spiked manufacturing costs... bad.  3 steps forward, 2 steps back (with another step or two back on the horizon)

A Tax Law for Manufacturers, but a Trade Policy Against Them


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Posted: Aug 12, 2025 - 10:27am

Trump’s pick for BLS commissioner suggests suspending the monthly jobs report
Kind of like Trump's answer to growing cases of Covid: just stop testing for it and the number of cases will go down.

Trump wants to hide the consequences of his bad policies by manipulating BLS data—it won’t work
"Trump’s attempt to politicize BLS means that policymakers and the public wouldn’t be able to trust the data. If this happens, confidence in U.S. data will collapse and reasonable economic decision-making will be impossible. This manufactured chaos will reduce business investment and consumer spending, making a recession—and soaring unemployment—far more likely in coming months. Between illegal firings of public servants, starving data agencies of needed resources, and now political intimidation, the U.S. looks set to run into the next economic downturn flying blind."
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Posted: Aug 12, 2025 - 8:47am

CPI data out today, core goods inflation (excl food and energy) rose to a two year high of 3.1%.
Another interesting trend which is expected to continue - energy/gas was down 1.6%/9% YOY. But electricity and gas service still up, 5.5%/13.8%.
Some of this is due to higher national gas prices, due to shifts in global demand (more exports)....but higher consumer utility bills are also being driven by investments to upgrade aging grids, data centers to power AI/tech, and... the rollback of clean energy credits. Then there is the demand from "bringing back manufacturing"...
more dots to connect...dot dot dot

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/1...


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Posted: Aug 11, 2025 - 10:30am




The differences and intentions are obvious, but under both dems and repubs, the federal government has actively engaged in economic affairs through strategic subsidies, ownership stakes, and executive directives moving our economy more towards China "state capitalism."  

The U.S. Marches Toward State Capitalism With American Characteristics

A generation ago conventional wisdom held that as China liberalized, its economy would come to resemble America’s. Instead, capitalism in America is starting to look like China.

Recent examples include President Trump’s demand that Intel’s chief executive resign; the 15% of certain chip sales to China that Nvidia and Advanced Micro Devices will share with Washington; the “golden share” Washington will get in U.S. Steel as a condition of Nippon Steel’s takeover; and the $1.5 trillion of promised investment from trading partners Trump plans to personally direct.

The federal government has often waded into the corporate world. It commandeered production during World War II and, under the Defense Production Act, emergencies such as the Covid-19 pandemic. It bailed out banks and car companies during the 2007-09 financial crisis. Those, however, were temporary expedients.

Former President Joe Biden went further, seeking to shape the actual structure of industry. His Inflation Reduction Act authorized $400 billion in clean-energy loans. The Chips and Science Act earmarked $39 billion in subsidies for domestic semiconductor manufacturing. Of that, $8.5 billion went to Intel, giving Trump leverage to demand the removal of its CEO over past ties to China. (Intel so far has refused.)

State capitalism is a means of political, not just economic, control. Xi ruthlessly deploys economic levers to crush any challenge to party primacy. In 2020, Alibaba co-founder Jack Ma, arguably the country’s most famous business leader, criticized Chinese regulators for stifling financial innovation. Retaliation was swift. Regulators canceled the initial public offering of Ma’s financial company, Ant Group, and eventually fined it $2.8 billion for anticompetitive behavior. Ma briefly disappeared from public view.

Trump has similarly deployed executive orders and regulatory powers against media companies, banks, law firms and other companies he believes oppose him, while rewarding executives who align themselves with his priorities.

In Trump’s first term, CEOs routinely spoke out when they disagreed with his policies such as on immigration and trade. Now, they shower him with donations and praise, or are mostly silent.

American democracy constrains the state through an independent judiciary, free speech, due process and the diffusion of power among multiple levels and branches of government. How far state capitalism ultimately displaces free-market capitalism in the U.S. depends on how well those checks and balances hold up.




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Posted: Aug 8, 2025 - 7:40am

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looks like the two grumpy guys from the muppets
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Posted: Aug 7, 2025 - 2:32pm

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That's exactly where we are. End-stage Capitalism.
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Posted: Aug 7, 2025 - 1:26pm


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Posted: Aug 7, 2025 - 7:37am

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Interesting discussion. Builds some of the internal discussions i've had on the failures of capitalism, the conflicts between self interest and cooperation as it relates to the invisible hand. 
The idea that some widely accepted truths about our economy are merely assumptions—ones that may actually distort how the economy is meant to function

As discussed, alone, a selfish organism outcompetes. But, as a group, those w less selfish individuals outcompete. Selfishness undermines group welfare. It becomes a cancer - a selfish cell in the body.

The problem isn’t with markets themselves, but with the way they’re structured. History shows that government control of production and supply can be just as problematic—if not worse—than the issues we see in today’s capitalist systems.
Rather than corporatism, whereby fewer companies dominate production/supply, and fewer employees dominate the payroll (wage gaps), we need more coops, esops…to deal with the problem of individual selfishness and excessive accumulation of wealth.

The idea that ‘greed is good’ doesn’t have to define capitalism or free markets. But we—and more specifically, figures within the Reagan administration—did just that when they framed a company’s primary goal as maximizing shareholder wealth. In other words, a bad ideology was created and reinforced by us.




Along similar lines, I came across this story, 

From the New York Times:

"Running a small wine business speaks to the romantic side of any winemaker’s ambition. Nobody aims to become a cog in a corporate operation, spinning the gerbil wheel of paperwork, committee meetings and goals set by bean counters.

"The aim instead is to express a personal vision through your own independent brand, farming according to your standards, making the wines you want to make, doing things your way … And yet, for even some of the most successful such winemakers, the journey can be riddled with hazards. Financial pitfalls abound as independence might come at the cost of avoiding meddlesome but wealthy investors. Climate change has made each vintage a potential disaster, with once rare calamities like spring frosts, drought, hail and wildfires becoming an annual worry … Add in the current wine economy: decreasing sales, sagging consumption and public health warnings, and you’ve got trouble no matter how popular or critically acclaimed your brand might be.

"In Sonoma County, responding to exactly this situation, five independent winemakers have merged into a sort of collective in which ownership of six brands is shared but each brand will maintain its integrity with the founders retaining operative control.

"The winemakers will share resources and expertise, collaborate on unlovable chores like paperwork and other administrative tasks, and aim to achieve greater efficiency and economies of scale by operating as a larger unit.

"The collective includes Martha Stoumen of Martha Stoumen Wines, Noah and Kelly Dorrance of Reeve Wines and BloodRoot Wines, Sam Bilbro of Idlewild Wines and David Drummond of Overshine and Comunità. Mr. Drummond, a former chief legal officer for Alphabet, the parent company of Google, will be the founding partner and primary investor in what is now called the Overshine Collective."

The goal, the Times writes, is the avoid what often seems to be an inevitable outcome - the sale of the business to a corporation or conglomerate, in which personal vision and personality can be subsumed by process, bureaucracy and lowest common denominator thinking.

I think this is smart, and encouraging, and I wonder if it could be a model for other businesses in other segments of the the industry, inn both retail and manufacturing. I'd love it if small and independent companies could find strength in numbers, perhaps developing new alliances and fresh business models that could allow them to remain independent longer.





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Posted: Aug 7, 2025 - 7:30am

I took a look at inflation adjusted gas and food prices, compared to the 1970s.

Gas, came in near where we are now, just over $3 a gallon.

Food prices mostly came in lower. L-T affordability of food has improved, thanks to productivity gains, technological advancements in agriculture, and enhanced supply chains, which, at least up to the pandemic, kept food inflation low for the past few decades.


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Item1970s Price (nominal)2025 Equivalent (2025 $)2025 Actual Price
Eggs (dozen)$0.61 (1970)~$5.13~$4.95
Bread (lb)$0.36 (1975)~$2.20~$1.93
Milk (½ gal)$0.785 (1975)~$4.79~$4.03
Beef (lb)$1.03 (1975)~$6.28~$2.42
Key takeaways:
  • Eggs and milk are slightly cheaper today than their inflation-adjusted equivalents.
  • Bread is still somewhat less costly today, although close.
  • Beef is significantly cheaper today, suggesting improved long-term affordability.

Doing the same for rent was a bit alarming.
  • 1975, the median gross monthly rent was about $148 per month.
  • Adjusted for inflation to 2025 dollars, this is approximately $805 per month. (CPI inflation factor from 1975 to 2025 is roughly 5.43×)(bls.gov, in2013dollars.com)






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Posted: Aug 6, 2025 - 4:49pm


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Posted: Aug 6, 2025 - 1:34pm

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Big beautiful tariffs/taxes




With BUSINESS and AMERICANS Paying.  This is a Federal Sales Tax. Call it what it is.
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Posted: Aug 2, 2025 - 10:58am

Was on Netflix for a while
Requiem for the American Dream 2015

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Posted: Jul 30, 2025 - 10:06am

Big beautiful tariffs/taxes

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