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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 2:13pm

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Hey, that was the interview with Michele Bachmann on 360 last night! She refused to answer any of Cooper's questions! 
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Posted: Nov 4, 2010 - 2:06pm

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Posted: Apr 24, 2009 - 1:58pm

 Painted_Turtle wrote:
 Inamorato wrote:

More than five months after the election, it's still not settled.


I think Jeff Rosenberg from MNpublius.com has a good idea

Restore MN Court staffing by having Norm Coleman reimburse Minnesotans

from his blog:

"WCCO's Esme Murphy has been devoted to an interesting cause lately:

"My theory is that since Minnesotans are paying taxes to support two US Senators we should get a refund for the days that we have only had one."

She now calculates that so far, the cost is approaching $1 million, counting since the day Al Franken should have been sworn in:

"By my calculation that's about $8,000 a day that we, as taxpayers, shell out for offices in Washington, D.C. and in Minnesota. (As far as I can tell from the 2,000-plus page report, all senators get about the same amount of money.)

Right now we have not had a senator for 107 days. At $8,000 a day, that's about $856,000 we, as taxpayers, have funded for a Senate office that doesn't exist."

Murphy thinks the rebate should come from the Federal government, but maybe Norm Coleman should have to cover a part of the cost, since he has clearly lost but continues to deny us full representation.

 Since Coleman is taking up so much of our courts' time, maybe the $1 million could go towards restoring courts' staffing.

 It won't be enough to completely restore service from our beleaguered court system, but every bit helps."


All I know is that this is really getting old....sigh....Slimy Norm, once again, puts his political party & his own money interests before the common good of Minnesota Citizens

 
Yes, I think Norm should pony up from out-of-pocket to cover the costs of Minnesotans' non-representation. It would give him a chance to not be a hypocrite by letting the private sector take responsibility instead of looking to the Federal government for help, just as his party so vigorously advocates.

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Posted: Apr 24, 2009 - 11:12am

 Inamorato wrote:

More than five months after the election, it's still not settled.


I think Jeff Rosenberg from MNpublius.com has a good idea

Restore MN Court staffing by having Norm Coleman reimburse Minnesotans

from his blog:

"WCCO's Esme Murphy has been devoted to an interesting cause lately:

"My theory is that since Minnesotans are paying taxes to support two US Senators we should get a refund for the days that we have only had one."

She now calculates that so far, the cost is approaching $1 million, counting since the day Al Franken should have been sworn in:

"By my calculation that's about $8,000 a day that we, as taxpayers, shell out for offices in Washington, D.C. and in Minnesota. (As far as I can tell from the 2,000-plus page report, all senators get about the same amount of money.)

Right now we have not had a senator for 107 days. At $8,000 a day, that's about $856,000 we, as taxpayers, have funded for a Senate office that doesn't exist."

Murphy thinks the rebate should come from the Federal government, but maybe Norm Coleman should have to cover a part of the cost, since he has clearly lost but continues to deny us full representation.

 Since Coleman is taking up so much of our courts' time, maybe the $1 million could go towards restoring courts' staffing.

 It won't be enough to completely restore service from our beleaguered court system, but every bit helps."


All I know is that this is really getting old....sigh....Slimy Norm, once again, puts his political party & his own money interests before the common good of Minnesota Citizens

 


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Posted: Apr 24, 2009 - 8:54am

 Inamorato wrote:

More than five months after the election, it's still not settled.

 

From the current issue of Newsweek:


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Posted: Apr 23, 2009 - 5:11pm


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Posted: Apr 23, 2009 - 5:09pm

dionysius wrote:

I loved the bit The Daily Show did on this dispute...months ago. After it was announced Norm was going to contest the results, they ran video of him from immediately after election day, when it seemed as if he was ahead of Franken by a few votes. Then, he called upon Al to be gracious and drop out, like he would in a similar case. Shoe on other foot, looks like Norm Coleman is a hypocrite. He has no hope of winning this case; he's only in it now to delay seating Franken as long as possible. Now, that's gracious for you!

The Daily Show had it right. When Coleman was ahead, he called on Franken to "do the right thing" and bow out. Now that the three-judge panel has declared Franken the winner, Coleman and the Republicans will spare no expense while taking it to the Minnesota Supreme Court. It's a good thing they have deep pockets because the court ordered the Coleman campaign to pay for Franken's legal expenses. I get the feeling that they are just trying to forestall Franken being seated to keep the Democratic majority from growing.


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Posted: Apr 14, 2009 - 10:20am

 Inamorato wrote:

More than five months after the election, it's still not settled. 


I loved the bit The Daily Show did on this dispute...months ago. After it was announced Norm was going to contest the results, they ran video of him from immediately after election day, when it seemed as if he was ahead of Franken by a few votes. Then, he called upon Al to be gracious and drop out, like he would in a similar case. Shoe on other foot, looks like Norm Coleman is a hypocrite. He has no hope of winning this case; he's only in it now to delay seating Franken as long as possible. Now, that's gracious for you!
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Posted: Apr 14, 2009 - 8:40am

More than five months after the election, it's still not settled.

 

REUTERS/Eric Miller

Democratic senatorial candidate and Saturday Night Live comedian Al Franken (DFL-MN) and his wife Franni (L) speak to reporters after a three-judge panel dismisses Franken's opponent, former incumbent Senator Norm Coleman's (R-MN) attempt to reverse Franken's lead in a vote recount, outside his home in Minneapolis, April 13, 2009. A Minnesota court panel ruled on Monday that Franken beat Republican incumbent Norm Coleman in the long-fought contest for a U.S. Senate seat and said the comic turned politician should be certified as the winner.  

Norm Coleman says he will appeal the ruling of the three-judge panel to the Minnesota Supreme Court.


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Posted: Nov 20, 2008 - 4:21pm

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{#Sad}   Be careful what you wish for....


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Posted: Nov 20, 2008 - 3:58pm

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If Franken is challenging this, he's too stupid to be in congress.
 

Is there such a thing as being too stupid to be in Congress? I mean, look at the current membership...
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Posted: Nov 20, 2008 - 3:54pm

 Mugro wrote: 
If Franken is challenging this, he's too stupid to be in congress.

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Posted: Nov 20, 2008 - 3:19pm

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oh, and this commenton that site is gold:

That's my vote. I tried to write in Prince.

 

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Posted: Nov 20, 2008 - 3:19pm

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I doubt Norm and Al would be that civil at this point in the process.

 
How about we put Al and Norm in a fenced yard, then toss a quarter in there with them. The first one to emerge with the coin wins. We could let about 50 3rd graders in too to liven things up...nah, they would probably come up w/ reasonable solution, better just to let Al and Norm fight it out.
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Posted: Nov 20, 2008 - 3:15pm

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The real issue is that when the difference is within the margin of error for the method of tallying the ballots. Margins of error tell you how much variance you can have within the result. If your difference is within that, then no matter how many times you recount, you are not going to be able to tell who really won.  Might as well toss a coin, or draw for high card (I think there are some city/county elections that have come down to the card method). Either is equally as legitimate.
 
I doubt Norm and Al would be that civil at this point in the process.


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Posted: Nov 20, 2008 - 3:14pm

oh, and this commenton that site is gold:

That's my vote. I tried to write in Prince.


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Posted: Nov 20, 2008 - 3:12pm

 Mugro wrote:

I know that they are necessary for democracy, but recounts suck. They become an absurd circus, as we saw in 2000. But, there is not much of an alternative unless you hold a separate runoff election.
 
The real issue is that when the difference is within the margin of error for the method of tallying the ballots. Margins of error tell you how much variance you can have within the result. If your difference is within that, then no matter how many times you recount, you are not going to be able to tell who really won.  Might as well toss a coin, or draw for high card (I think there are some city/county elections that have come down to the card method). Either is equally as legitimate.
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Posted: Nov 20, 2008 - 3:08pm

 Mugro wrote:

I know that they are necessary for democracy, but recounts suck. They become an absurd circus, as we saw in 2000. But, there is not much of an alternative unless you hold a separate runoff election.
 

If we were living in a parliamentary democracy, calling a quick snap runoff election wouldn't be a problem. The logistics in our system (and the deadlines involved) make it nightmarish. It can't be accomplished before the new Senate sits. So, shall we let the courts decide? Lots of us (left and right) have a problem with that, too. A better voting system—but not a paperless electronic one!—is certainly needed when we have an electorate so closely divided.
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Posted: Nov 20, 2008 - 3:02pm

 dionysius wrote:


They're going all over similar problematic Minnesota ballots on MSNBC right now. Now, you've happened to pick a contested ballot that's obviously Coleman. There are hundreds more probably or certainly Franken. The recount gets closer and closer; it's quite possible Franken has won, but it won't be by more than a few ballots, well within what modern politics has deemed "the margin of litigation" lately. Who has the better lawyers?

 
I know that they are necessary for democracy, but recounts suck. They become an absurd circus, as we saw in 2000. But, there is not much of an alternative unless you hold a separate runoff election.

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