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Beanie
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:57pm |
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oldslabsides wrote: Keep the bug home from school.
Different school system (bug is five miles in the other direction) and the kids who have it went to Mexico for spring break. No worries.
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:55pm |
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Beanie wrote:
That's Ohio, not Oklahoma. About 5 miles from my house, to be exact.
Keep the bug home from school.
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Beanie
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:54pm |
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hippiechick wrote: I would normally say no, but OK is one of the states that has cases of swine flu present, so better be safe than sorry.
That's Ohio, not Oklahoma. About 5 miles from my house, to be exact.
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:43pm |
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n4ku wrote: Hmmmm...according to this, nothing in Oklahoma or Illinois - yet. Thanks, Aalln.
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samiyam
Location: Moving North
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:42pm |
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Beanie wrote:
Nothing over 100ml.
So a travel-sized bottle of purell sounds like a good travel addition! :thumbsup:
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Beanie
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:41pm |
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samiyam wrote: I just purchased some today... (and some anti-pyretic pills) I wonder if they still have that "no liquids" BS going on the airliners? Nothing over 100ml.
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n4ku
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:40pm |
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samiyam
Location: Moving North
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:39pm |
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Beanie wrote:OK, you do have a point. But I'll still submit you're more likely to catch it off the seat backs that others have touched than something airborne. But I guess the mask can't hurt. And you still need hand sanitizer. I just purchased some today... (and some anti-pyretic pills) I wonder if they still have that "no liquids" BS going on the airliners?
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:37pm |
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oldslabsides wrote: Thank you.
So, the only person I'm likely to catch it from is P - who's currently running a fever.
I would normally say no, but OK is one of the states that has cases of swine flu present, so better be safe than sorry.
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hobiejoe
Location: Still in the tunnel, looking for the light. Gender:
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:35pm |
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Beanie wrote: I think you're absolutely right. This looks like panic for no good reason.
Except for one nasty little detail that no one is talking about.
The vast majority of the Mexicans who have died of this flu are young, healthy adults. Now, if you think about it, this doesn't make sense. Why should those in the population with the strongest immune systems doe of the flu? Flu is supposed to kill sickly babies and people with AIDS and little old ladies with emphysema. So why would healthy young people die of the flu?
Because they *aren't* dying of the flu. They're dying of a hyper-immune response to the flu. Something called a cytokine storm. It basically makes the body turn on itself, causing (among other things) severe high fevers and pneumonia.
We've seen this once before: the pandemic of 1918. That flu (the "Spanish Flu") killed almost 100 million people.
Is this flu going to be like that? Probably not. But because of the disease etiology, they're keeping a super-close eye on it.
Thank you Beanie, not something we've heard over here yet, although I did wonder a little at the quiet yet firm messages we've been getting from the gov't today. With our recent history in the UK (BSE, Foot'n'mouth, avian flu) and being a hub for worldwide aviation we're apparently world leaders in this kind of situation alongside your CDC, the French and the Germans.
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Beanie
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:35pm |
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samiyam wrote: I'm not sure Beanie is quite so accurate. The air in an airliner has been known to transmit many germs. You might consider putting a mask on but only once you're seated so that you don't freak the security wonks.
Remember that a mask is only good as long as it doesn't clog up with your breath moisture, so you need to change it every three hours or so.
OK, you do have a point. But I'll still submit you're more likely to catch it off the seat backs that others have touched than something airborne. But I guess the mask can't hurt. And you still need hand sanitizer.
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samiyam
Location: Moving North
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:31pm |
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oldslabsides wrote: I'll trust your opinion on this, Miss Bean: should I wear a mask in the airport and on the plane tomorrow?
I'm not sure Beanie is quite so accurate. The air in an airliner has been known to transmit many germs. You might consider putting a mask on but only once you're seated so that you don't freak the security wonks. Remember that a mask is only good as long as it doesn't clog up with your breath moisture, so you need to change it every three hours or so.
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:31pm |
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Beanie wrote:
No.
CDC says it's spread by *close* contact: shaking hands or coughing on each other. Leave the mask home and take hand sanitizer.
Thank you. So, the only person I'm likely to catch it from is P - who's currently running a fever.
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Beanie
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:28pm |
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oldslabsides wrote: I'll trust your opinion on this, Miss Bean: should I wear a mask in the airport and on the plane tomorrow?
No. CDC says it's spread by *close* contact: shaking hands or coughing on each other. Leave the mask home and take hand sanitizer.
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bokey
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:26pm |
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oldslabsides wrote: I'll trust your opinion on this, Miss Bean: should I wear a mask in the airport and on the plane tomorrow?
It depends. Are you buying a ticket or hijacking?
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:19pm |
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Beanie wrote: I think you're absolutely right. This looks like panic for no good reason.
Except for one nasty little detail that no one is talking about.
The vast majority of the Mexicans who have died of this flu are young, healthy adults. Now, if you think about it, this doesn't make sense. Why should those in the population with the strongest immune systems doe of the flu? Flu is supposed to kill sickly babies and people with AIDS and little old ladies with emphysema. So why would healthy young people die of the flu?
Because they *aren't* dying of the flu. They're dying of a hyper-immune response to the flu. Something called a cytokine storm. It basically makes the body turn on itself, causing (among other things) severe high fevers and pneumonia.
We've seen this once before: the pandemic of 1918. That flu (the "Spanish Flu") killed almost 100 million people.
Is this flu going to be like that? Probably not. But because of the disease etiology, they're keeping a super-close eye on it.
I'll trust your opinion on this, Miss Bean: should I wear a mask in the airport and on the plane tomorrow?
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Beanie
Location: under the jellicle moon Gender:
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:16pm |
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exotraxx wrote:What I ask myself considering:
- The risk to become infected by this kind of influenza is much lower than the risk to be shot by someone cracking up with a gun in his hands.
- There are enough meds capable to combat the virus
- whereas it's unquestioned to own as many deadly guns as you like
- and therefore a risk to your life you take without any panic.
Why is there such a panic the US about an influenza virus?
I think you're absolutely right. This looks like panic for no good reason. Except for one nasty little detail that no one is talking about. The vast majority of the Mexicans who have died of this flu are young, healthy adults. Now, if you think about it, this doesn't make sense. Why should those in the population with the strongest immune systems doe of the flu? Flu is supposed to kill sickly babies and people with AIDS and little old ladies with emphysema. So why would healthy young people die of the flu? Because they *aren't* dying of the flu. They're dying of a hyper-immune response to the flu. Something called a cytokine storm. It basically makes the body turn on itself, causing (among other things) severe high fevers and pneumonia. We've seen this once before: the pandemic of 1918. That flu (the "Spanish Flu") killed almost 100 million people. Is this flu going to be like that? Probably not. But because of the disease etiology, they're keeping a super-close eye on it.
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bokey
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:15pm |
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Welly wrote:. . . . . . reminds me of a book I read in the 80s. . . . . I thought about this book yesterday when I told M to watch out for bears and Canadians. I should have added "And don't shake anyones hand who has been to Mexico recently and if you do for God's sake don't spread the plague to Alaska. "
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SantaFeGrace
Location: Santa Fe, NM Gender:
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:07pm |
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hippiechick wrote: We're a nervous bunch.
Funny, but true! A friend just got sent home from work at a plasma center. He's fine but his temperature is 100 degrees. I wonder if he will get paid sick time - he just started working there two weeks ago...
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AliGator
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Apr 27, 2009 - 3:05pm |
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Welly wrote:......reminds me of a book I read in the 80s..... My favorite Stephen King.
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