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arsenault

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 11:12am

 sirdroseph wrote:


Sheesh, sounds like a Jesse Jackson speech!{#Rolleyes}

 
not enough mumbling, rhyming or crescendos.

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 10:46am

 romeotuma wrote:


Indeed, sweetie...  you know I love you...

A perplexing yet persistent empirical finding is that individuals assess probabilities in words and in numbers nearly equivalently, and theorists have called for future research to search for factors that cause differences. This study uses an accounting context in which individuals are commonly motivated to reach preferred (rather than accurate) conclusions. Within this context, I predict new differences between verbal and numerical probability assessments, as follows: first, individuals will justify an optimistic verbal assessment (e.g., somewhat possible) by retaining the option of re-defining it, in case of negative outcomes, as though the phrase really means something different, and, for that matter, means more things. This re-definition will maintain some connection to the original meaning of the phrase, but de-emphasized relative to the new meaning. Second, based on this behavior, I also predict individuals' verbal probability assessments to be (1) more biased and yet (2) perceived as more justifiable than their numerical assessments. I find supportive evidence in an experiment designed to test the hypotheses. This study contributes to motivated reasoning and probability assessment theories (1) with new evidence of how individuals can word-smith in multiple attributes of a phrase to justify reaching a preferred conclusion, and (2) with new, reliable differences between verbal and numerical probability assessments. This study has important theoretical and practical implications relevant to organizational contexts in which people assess the likelihoods of uncertainties in words or numbers, and with motivations to reach a preferred conclusion.

 

Sheesh, sounds like a Jesse Jackson speech!{#Rolleyes}
kurtster

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 10:25am

 hippiechick wrote:

It's hard to find new blood with the same old ideas.
 

{#Stupid}

And why would we want to ?
kurtster

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 10:24am

 jadewahoo wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
But why the F not ammend the Constitution to let someone like Arnold run ?  Hasn't the time come ?  I believe the Governor of Michigan was born in Canada.  Maybe some new blood will fix up this ailing country.

Hell, lets just hire some Hessians to go fight our wars of aggression for us while we are at it!

Oh, wait, we already have. We call 'em Blackwater.

As to new blood... that is precisely what Obama is. You guys, never satisfied, always got to look over the fence. Sheesh.

 
Ya, his stuff is greener...
Ooops, wrong fence.

kurtster

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 10:22am

 romeotuma wrote:

Uh, Kurt, we already have some new blood fixing up this ailing country...  Obama was born on Mars...  you can tell by his ears...  don't try to tell me otherwise—  I know it I know it I know it!!!!

 
You know what they say about them darned Martian - Americans, just can't trust 'em.

I want some one not partially from around these parts.

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 10:21am

 jadewahoo wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
But why the F not ammend the Constitution to let someone like Arnold run ?  Hasn't the time come ?  I believe the Governor of Michigan was born in Canada.  Maybe some new blood will fix up this ailing country.

Hell, lets just hire some Hessians to go fight our wars of aggression for us while we are at it!

Oh, wait, we already have. We call 'em Blackwater.

As to new blood... that is precisely what Obama is. You guys, never satisfied, always got to look over the fence. Sheesh.

 
It's hard to find new blood with the same old ideas.

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 10:18am

 kurtster wrote:
But why the F not ammend the Constitution to let someone like Arnold run ?  Hasn't the time come ?  I believe the Governor of Michigan was born in Canada.  Maybe some new blood will fix up this ailing country.

Hell, lets just hire some Hessians to go fight our wars of aggression for us while we are at it!

Oh, wait, we already have. We call 'em Blackwater.

As to new blood... that is precisely what Obama is. You guys, never satisfied, always got to look over the fence. Sheesh.


kurtster

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 10:15am

But why the F not ammend the Constitution to let someone like Arnold run ?  Hasn't the time come ?  I believe the Governor of Michigan was born in Canada.  Maybe some new blood will fix up this ailing country.
ptooey

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 10:00am

 jadewahoo wrote:
Sometimes one doesn't need an emoticon to point to the tongue planted firmly in the cheek...
 
Ahh.

Maybe one does.  For a bit there, it appeared that one's logic was starting to tread close to birther territory.

kurtster

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 9:58am

 hippiechick wrote:

Karl Rove is the master.
 

{#Notworthy}
kurtster

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 9:56am

 jadewahoo wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

But we live in a global community now ...

...Time has come today...


So lets begin by dismantling this whole outmoded construct of sovereign national boundaries and take relevant steps towards the unification of all peoples as citizens of Earth.

 

Its  innevitable.  So why wait.  Then we might be able to take our seat in the universe.
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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 9:55am

 romeotuma wrote:


Indeed, sweetie...  you know I love you...

A perplexing yet persistent empirical finding is that individuals assess probabilities in words and in numbers nearly equivalently, and theorists have called for future research to search for factors that cause differences. This study uses an accounting context in which individuals are commonly motivated to reach preferred (rather than accurate) conclusions. Within this context, I predict new differences between verbal and numerical probability assessments, as follows: first, individuals will justify an optimistic verbal assessment (e.g., somewhat possible) by retaining the option of re-defining it, in case of negative outcomes, as though the phrase really means something different, and, for that matter, means more things. This re-definition will maintain some connection to the original meaning of the phrase, but de-emphasized relative to the new meaning. Second, based on this behavior, I also predict individuals' verbal probability assessments to be (1) more biased and yet (2) perceived as more justifiable than their numerical assessments. I find supportive evidence in an experiment designed to test the hypotheses. This study contributes to motivated reasoning and probability assessment theories (1) with new evidence of how individuals can word-smith in multiple attributes of a phrase to justify reaching a preferred conclusion, and (2) with new, reliable differences between verbal and numerical probability assessments. This study has important theoretical and practical implications relevant to organizational contexts in which people assess the likelihoods of uncertainties in words or numbers, and with motivations to reach a preferred conclusion.

 
Karl Rove is the master.

kurtster

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 9:53am

 romeotuma wrote:

 it's just lazy, and warrants little attention...

then again, many people also believe in fairies and other supernatural forces, even though their prayers are never answered...  talk about motivated reasoning...


 

Hey dude,

I know fairies exist.

I made lots of money off my teeth as a kid.

{#War}


hippiechick

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 9:52am

 jadewahoo wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

But we live in a global community now ...

...Time has come today...


So lets begin by dismantling this whole outmoded construct of sovereign national boundaries and take relevant steps towards the unification of all peoples as citizens of Earth.

 
A great idea but I don't think most of the world is ready for this kind of thinking. Look at the immigration debate.


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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 9:52am

 ptooey wrote:

Wasn't Washington born in Virginia?  I mean, not technically the USA yet, but still...
 Sometimes one doesn't need an emoticon to point to the tongue planted firmly in the cheek...


jadewahoo

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 9:50am

 kurtster wrote:

But we live in a global community now ...

...Time has come today...


So lets begin by dismantling this whole outmoded construct of sovereign national boundaries and take relevant steps towards the unification of all peoples as citizens of Earth.


hippiechick

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 9:49am

 romeotuma wrote:

It's all moot, because Obama was born in Hawaii, which is a bonafide state in the USA...  people who claim otherwise are just using motivated reasoning as a rationalization to completely dismiss the president in one fell swoop... that way, they don't have to actually examine the meat and potatoes of the real issues...  it's just lazy, and warrants little attention...

then again, many people also believe in fairies and other supernatural forces, even though their prayers are never answered...  talk about motivated reasoning...


 
Good article, eh?

ptooey

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 9:47am

 jadewahoo wrote:
You do realize, don't you (and this can be verified with just a bit of searching the internet), that George Washington was not born in the United States of America? Yet he turned out to be a pretty good president, by all accounts.

 
Wasn't Washington born in Virginia?  I mean, not technically the USA yet, but still...

kurtster

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 9:47am

 hippiechick wrote:

The reason for this is obvious, to prevent split loyalties to another country.
 
But we live in a global community now ...

...Time has come today...

kurtster

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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 - 9:45am

 jadewahoo wrote:
 kurtster wrote:


We know cows are a documented measurable source of methane. 

The question of where Obama took his first breath is irrelevant  with open, undefended borders.  When you don't defend your sovereignty, what else matters ?

At this point in time we might as well ammend the Constitution to allow Arnold to run for President.  I would vote for him, in a heart beat.

You do realize, don't you (and this can be verified with just a bit of searching the internet), that George Washington was not born in the United States of America? Yet he turned out to be a pretty good president, by all accounts.

 
...
...water runs up the spout
... let it all hang out !

{#Mrgreen}

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