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rgio

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Posted: Feb 17, 2023 - 9:33am

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The elite throughout societies since the beginning of time have understood this. You can manipulate ignorance and stupidity; not so easy with a critical thinker. (Gutenberg's Press really gobsmacked the Church's strangle hold on society!!

It's pretty amusing to consider that the "anti-education" guy is Yale/Harvard grad.   Nothing elite about that.
 < /sarcasm >

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Posted: Feb 17, 2023 - 8:49am

 rgio wrote:

Sorry for the long post, but I thought this was an especially well-written summation of the current attack on education by the Right.

The Right Don’t Need No Education

. . .

That’s not to say that U.S. higher education is perfect. In general, we surely fetishize the standard four-year degree, which isn’t appropriate for everyone, and grossly neglect forms of education, such as apprenticeships, that might be more useful to many people. But that’s a whole other story.

For now, the important thing to understand is that people like DeSantis are attacking education, not because it teaches liberal propaganda, but because it fails to sustain the ignorance they want to preserve.



The elite throughout societies since the beginning of time have understood this. You can manipulate ignorance and stupidity; not so easy with a critical thinker. (Gutenberg's Press really gobsmacked the Church's strangle hold on society!! )  It's clear the Republican Party is using the same app.
rgio

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Posted: Feb 17, 2023 - 8:25am

Sorry for the long post, but I thought this was an especially well-written summation of the current attack on education by the Right.

The Right Don’t Need No Education

Ron DeSantis, who is currently governor of Florida and wants to become president, has been trying to position himself as America’s leading crusader against wokeness. And lately higher education has become his most visible target. He picked a very public fight with the College Board over its new advanced placement course in African American studies, and in the past few days has broadened that attack into a suggestion that Florida might stop offering A.P. classes in any field.

What’s going on here? It’s easy to get drawn into debating accusations about particular courses or institutions, but that’s missing the fundamental context: the extraordinary rise in right-wing hostility to higher education in general.

Is every accusation about left-leaning professors trying to indoctrinate students false? Probably not: America is a big country, and it surely must be happening somewhere — although the specific charges made by right-wing critics are often ludicrous. In a meeting with the College Board, Florida officials asked whether the new A.P. course was “trying to advance Black Panther thinking.” Guys, the Black Panthers closed up shop when Ron DeSantis was a little kid; say the words now and most people think you’re talking about Wakanda.

It is true that college faculty members are much more likely to identify themselves as liberal and vote Democratic than the public at large. But this needn’t be evidence of anti-conservative bias. Much of it surely reflects self-selection: What kind of person decides to pursue academics as a career? To make a comparison: The police skew Republican, but I presume that everyone accepts that this mainly involves who wants to be a police officer.

So what’s really driving the attacks on higher education?

Not that long ago most Americans in both parties believed that colleges had a positive effect on the United States. Since the rise of Trumpism, however, Republicans have turned very negative. Recent polling shows an overwhelming majority of Republicans agreeing that both college professors and high schools are trying to “teach liberal propaganda.”

But what actually happened here? Did America’s colleges — which a large majority of Republicans considered to have a positive influence as recently as 2015 — suddenly become centers of left-wing indoctrination? Did the same thing happen to high schools, run by local boards, across the nation?

Of course not. What happened was that MAGA politicians began peddling scare stories about education — notably, denouncing high schools for teaching critical race theory, even though they don’t. And right-wingers also greatly expanded their definition of what counts as “liberal propaganda.”

Thus, when one points out that schools don’t actually teach critical race theory, the response tends to be that while they may not use the term, they do teach students that racism was long a major force in America, and its effects linger to this day. I don’t know how you teach our nation’s history honestly without mentioning these facts — but in the eyes of a substantial number of voters, teaching uncomfortable facts is indeed a form of liberal propaganda.

And once that’s your mindset, you see left-wing indoctrination happening everywhere, not just in history and the social sciences. If a biology class explains the theory of evolution, and why almost all scientists accept it — or, for that matter, the theory of how vaccines work — well, that’s liberal propaganda. If a physics class explains how greenhouse gas emissions can change the climate — well, that’s more liberal propaganda.

And so a large segment of the population — the segment DeSantis is courting — has become hostile to higher education as a whole.

As an aside, it’s a familiar fact that U.S. politics is increasingly polarized along educational lines, with the highly educated supporting Democrats and the less-educated supporting Republicans. This polarization is often portrayed as a symptom of Democratic failure — why can’t the party win over working-class white voters? But it’s equally valid to ask how Republicans have managed to alienate educated voters who might benefit from tax cuts. And the party’s growing hostility to education is surely part of the answer.

In any case, one sad thing is that this turn against education is taking place precisely at a time when highly educated workers are becoming ever more crucial to the economy. This is especially obvious when you look at regional data within the United States: The college-educated percentage of a city’s population is a powerful predictor of both its current prosperity and its future growth.

That’s not to say that U.S. higher education is perfect. In general, we surely fetishize the standard four-year degree, which isn’t appropriate for everyone, and grossly neglect forms of education, such as apprenticeships, that might be more useful to many people. But that’s a whole other story.

For now, the important thing to understand is that people like DeSantis are attacking education, not because it teaches liberal propaganda, but because it fails to sustain the ignorance they want to preserve.


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Posted: Feb 17, 2023 - 8:15am

 Isabeau wrote:

Proud Boys move to subpoena Trump in seditious conspiracy trial

Some of the Proud Boys have argued that the former president should be on trial, not them.




oh, snap 
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Posted: Feb 17, 2023 - 8:13am

Proud Boys move to subpoena Trump in seditious conspiracy trial

Some of the Proud Boys have argued that the former president should be on trial, not them.


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Posted: Feb 14, 2023 - 6:01pm

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The generation of the "Baby On Board" stickers. Somehow indicating that something that's happened since the dawn of man, suddenly anoints their vehicle with more 'value' than others.
These narcissistic babies are now grown up and have managed to make their high chair antics some form of fantasy political policy. https://wapo.st/3l50ok6





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Posted: Feb 14, 2023 - 5:24pm


rgio

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Posted: Feb 9, 2023 - 5:40am

Republicans held a hearing to prove Twitter's bias against them. 

It backfired in spectacular fashion

Trump tried to have Twitter censor Chrissy Teigen because she hurt his feelings.

The Twitter Files are only half (or less) of the story.

There is no proof of any government collusion in the Hunter Biden story.

 The Republicans are driving themselves off a cliff to make the 30% of Americans who agree the 2020 election was stolen happy.   The gerrymandered state maps have now created congressional primaries (most notably in lower-educated, lower-income districts) where insanity and conspiracy are the primary factors of electability.  

Isabeau

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Posted: Feb 2, 2023 - 1:18pm

The generation of the "Baby On Board" stickers. Somehow indicating that something that's happened since the dawn of man, suddenly anoints their vehicle with more 'value' than others.
These narcissistic babies are now grown up and have managed to make their high chair antics some form of fantasy political policy. https://wapo.st/3l50ok6

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Posted: Feb 2, 2023 - 12:45pm

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The Big BooHoo Tent 

‘We Are Babylon’: Dozens of Congress Members Participate in Anti-LGBTQ Prayer Service
Dozens of members of Congress joined an audience of religious-right activists and Christian nationalists at the Museum of the Bible this morning for a “National Gathering for Prayer and Repentance.”

Sponsored by various anti-LGBTQ religious-right groups such as the American Family Association, Liberty Counsel, Alliance Defending Freedom, and Pacific Justice Institute, the prayer gathering was emceed by right-wing activists Jim Garlow of Well Versed, who is associated with the dominionist New Apostolic Reformation, and Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council. Both Garlow and Perkins were active promoters of former President Donald Trump’s stolen election lies, with Perkins and FRC actively working to overturn the election results via pressure on state legislators, members of Congress, and former Vice President Mike Pence.

The tenor of the prayer service was well encapsulated by Pastor Andrew Brunson, who became a right-wing celebrity after he was freed from detention in Turkey during the Trump administration. Brunson used his prayer to warn that the United States will soon face the judgment of God for having become “the primary corrupter of the world” by supporting LGBTQ rights.

“The Bible draws a picture of Babylon as the wealthiest, most powerful city-empire of its time; a nation that sets itself against God and uses its power and wealth to lead other peoples into immorality,” Brunson said. “This is us. We are Babylon. The United States is the Babylon of this generation.” (...)

Brunson was followed by a panel featuring “ex-gay” activists who begged God to cleanse the nation of “the sins of homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality, and sex confusion.” They were then followed by multiple members of Congress, including House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.

Rep. Diana Harshbarger was among the members of Congress who participated in the event, praying that God will “put godly people in places of authority” and “remove people that are ungodly from places of authority. Put them out to pasture.”

“We are the remnant, the people who stand in the place at such a time as this, God, to do your will,” Harshbarger declared. “We’re the only thing that stands between prosperity and destruction.”


And lets reelect Donald J Trump. 
These folks really need to learn how to pray in silence. 
But I can't argue for wishing for more (real) godly people, and not these clowns. 



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Posted: Feb 2, 2023 - 12:26pm

The Big BooHoo Tent 
‘We Are Babylon’: Dozens of Congress Members Participate in Anti-LGBTQ Prayer Service
Dozens of members of Congress joined an audience of religious-right activists and Christian nationalists at the Museum of the Bible this morning for a “National Gathering for Prayer and Repentance.”

Sponsored by various anti-LGBTQ religious-right groups such as the American Family Association, Liberty Counsel, Alliance Defending Freedom, and Pacific Justice Institute, the prayer gathering was emceed by right-wing activists Jim Garlow of Well Versed, who is associated with the dominionist New Apostolic Reformation, and Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council. Both Garlow and Perkins were active promoters of former President Donald Trump’s stolen election lies, with Perkins and FRC actively working to overturn the election results via pressure on state legislators, members of Congress, and former Vice President Mike Pence.

The tenor of the prayer service was well encapsulated by Pastor Andrew Brunson, who became a right-wing celebrity after he was freed from detention in Turkey during the Trump administration. Brunson used his prayer to warn that the United States will soon face the judgment of God for having become “the primary corrupter of the world” by supporting LGBTQ rights.

“The Bible draws a picture of Babylon as the wealthiest, most powerful city-empire of its time; a nation that sets itself against God and uses its power and wealth to lead other peoples into immorality,” Brunson said. “This is us. We are Babylon. The United States is the Babylon of this generation.” (...)

Brunson was followed by a panel featuring “ex-gay” activists who begged God to cleanse the nation of “the sins of homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality, and sex confusion.” They were then followed by multiple members of Congress, including House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.

Rep. Diana Harshbarger was among the members of Congress who participated in the event, praying that God will “put godly people in places of authority” and “remove people that are ungodly from places of authority. Put them out to pasture.”

“We are the remnant, the people who stand in the place at such a time as this, God, to do your will,” Harshbarger declared. “We’re the only thing that stands between prosperity and destruction.”

black321

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Posted: Feb 2, 2023 - 11:44am

 Steely_D wrote:


While I don’t doubt the republicans might superficially use race for political expediency, as do democrats (see this video)…this is not about race and religion. It’s pretty clear it’s her so-called progressive politics that republicans want to silence, not her religion, color and all the things she’s ranting about...although it could also be about her own questionable antisemitic comments. 






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Posted: Feb 2, 2023 - 10:46am


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Posted: Feb 1, 2023 - 4:29pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


I honestly don't see him gaining any followers on this site.

I would bet there are a lot of lurkers that we haven't met.


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Posted: Feb 1, 2023 - 10:59am


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Posted: Jan 31, 2023 - 6:50pm


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 31, 2023 - 4:47pm

 Steely_D wrote:

Less taking up of our brain with these imbeciles. Retweeting/reposting just gives them more attention - you accomplish their mission for them.




I honestly don't see him gaining any followers on this site.
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Posted: Jan 31, 2023 - 4:39pm

 R_P wrote:


Less taking up of our brain with these imbeciles. Retweeting/reposting just gives them more attention - you accomplish their mission for them.


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Posted: Jan 31, 2023 - 10:33am

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