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Posted: Feb 6, 2010 - 8:45am

jadewahoo wrote:

Welly wrote:

miamizsun wrote:

It is a nice concept, unfortunately, it is campaign rhetoric. Like balancing the budget, bringing troops home, or improving public education, etc.

If their solution is nothing more than a tax increase with out any results, who are we going to hold accountable?

Who have we held accountable before? (Nobody, of course.)

I agree. Fuck the world and our children. I got mine, let them eat nuclear pellets for all I care. Who needs tundra anyway? And hey, a few degrees more and we will all be living in Florida-like temperatures, so whats the big deal?
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What? Do you think the only way we can be effective in bettering our world is to rely on money based solutions? This asinine fixation on Gubmint, US or World, is the pebble in the shoe that seems a boulder. Sure, the IMF, World Bank and the UN are in cahoots. So what? The Dominators have been doing this for 6,000 years. Are you gonna wait for them to come clean and acknowledge the ponzi scheme they are running before taking, not just a personal, but an activist, role in bequeathing to future generations a world that is cleaner, healthier and more sane?

In order to heal this world we must heal ourselves. In order to heal ourselves we must heal the world.

So let's say that climate change is really a natural occurrence and we can't do anything about it.

Putting that aside, don't we still want to stop being wasteful and protect what we have? Don't we still want to end our dependence on the people that are trying to kill us, for our oil? Wouldn't we still want to have clean air and water?

I realize that they believe that their god gave them all of this for their personal use, and the Apocalypse is coming soon anyway, but they are not arbiters of the world. We must stop these people from being considered legit by pointing out their ridiculousness.

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Posted: Feb 6, 2010 - 8:37am

RichardPrins wrote:

Tea partier shares 'single greatest threat to America' {#Mrgreen}

Climate alarmism dubbed bigger danger to nation than terrorism, nuclear weapons

NASHVILLE – "When it comes to your freedom in day-to-day life, environmentalists are the greatest threat to America now and America in the future."

That is the stern warning Junkscience.com publisher and self-described libertarian Steve Milloy told a packed room at the first national tea-party convention in Nashville today.

Milloy castigated both Republican and Democrat politicians for their global alarmism, saying those on the "right" have failed Americans because, "Republicans have been terrible when it comes to environmental issues," he said. "Don't even get me started about the nit-wit governor in California."

A resounding applause erupted from a crowd of 600 attendees.

He continued, "By contrast, there's the left. Although the left has think-tanks, they don't really need them. Their thinking was done for them by Karl Marx and hasn't changed much since. … The left rarely thinks; it usually just acts with reckless abandon." (...)

Environmentalism alarmism/denialism through populism... {#Cheesygrin}

and the earth is flat

jadewahoo

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Posted: Feb 6, 2010 - 8:36am

miamizsun wrote:

jadewahoo wrote:

miamizsun wrote:

Feeling frustrated? You should, but you're venting in the wrong direction.

And thanks for pointing out money based solutions.

Now, exactly how is it that the people that you admit are f*cking us going to solve this problem?

Regards

Not in the slightest.
They will not solve this. That is your delusion, that they could or should, or shouldn't .

Jade, please let me clarify, IMHO, I was simply pointing out the irony of your statement/reply to my post.

You appear to think that I only endorse money based solutions, when that is exactly what our rulers are proposing.

I think that we should give our best and brightest some encouragement/incentive to work on a solution, in other words, reinforce positive production/behavior.

And vote out the charlatans in power and put someone that has our best interest at heart.

I agree that it all starts at home (healing ourselves first) but we have to speak up and get the word out as well.

Regards

A fixation 'against' empowers the opposition as surely as a vote 'for', as the person so fixated is ensnared in always denouncing and warning, while never embarking upon the actual journey of change. Ok, it is not so black and white as that, but the kernel is there. You seem to think that the monied-powers-that-be are the problem. They are a joke. Empower your own life and the lives of others around you with positive action and choices and the world beocmes a bit brighter. This is not to say to be a pollyanna and ignore the realities of the scum that co-opt the governmental systems and media and for their own purposes, but to be so damned fixated upon them is pointless. IMHO. You gotta do it they way you see it. Mutual regards.

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Posted: Feb 6, 2010 - 8:28am

jadewahoo wrote:

miamizsun wrote:

Not in the slightest.
They will not solve this. That is your delusion, that they could or should, or shouldn't .

jadewahoo

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Posted: Feb 6, 2010 - 8:23am
rosedraws wrote: WTF has happened to my country. Remember Kosovo? This is how it begins...

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Posted: Feb 6, 2010 - 5:20am

RichardPrins wrote:

Tea partier shares 'single greatest threat to America' {#Mrgreen}

Climate alarmism dubbed bigger danger to nation than terrorism, nuclear weapons

Environmentalism alarmism/denialism through populism... {#Cheesygrin}

WTF has happened to my country.

R_P

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 9:30pm

Tea partier shares 'single greatest threat to America' {#Mrgreen}

Climate alarmism dubbed bigger danger to nation than terrorism, nuclear weapons

Environmentalism alarmism/denialism through populism... {#Cheesygrin}

R_P

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 4:45pm
miamizsun wrote: Now, exactly how is it that the people that you admit are fcking us going to solve this problem*? Which problem?

icee

Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 4:41pm
miamizsun wrote: It is a nice concept, unfortunately, it is campaign rhetoric. Like balancing the budget, bringing troops home, or improving public education, etc. If their solution is nothing more than a tax increase with out any results, who are we going to hold accountable? Who have we held accountable before? (Nobody, of course.) Correct.

jadewahoo

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 4:32pm
miamizsun wrote: Feeling frustrated? You should, but you're venting in the wrong direction. And thanks for pointing out money based solutions. *Now, exactly how is it that the people that you admit are fcking us going to solve this problem? Regards Not in the slightest. They will not solve this. That is your delusion, that they could or should, or shouldn't .**

miamizsun

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 3:58pm

jadewahoo wrote:

miamizsun wrote:

I agree. Fuck the world and our children. I got mine, let them eat nuclear pellets for all I care. Who needs tundra anyway? And hey, a few degrees more and we will all be living in Florida-like temperatures, so whats the big deal?
——————————-
What? Do you think the only way we can be effective in bettering our world is to rely on money based solutions? This asinine fixation on Gubmint, US or World, is the pebble in the shoe that seems a boulder. Sure, the IMF, World Bank and the UN are in cahoots. So what? The Dominators have been doing this for 6,000 years. Are you gonna wait for them to come clean and acknowledge the ponzi scheme they are running before taking, not just a personal, but an activist, role in bequeathing to future generations a world that is cleaner, healthier and more sane?

In order to heal this world we must heal ourselves. In order to heal ourselves we must heal the world.

Feeling frustrated? You should, but you're venting in the wrong direction.

And thanks for pointing out money based solutions.

Now, exactly how is it that the people that you admit are f*cking us going to solve this problem?

Regards

Welly

Location: Lotusland
Gender: Female

Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 1:50pm

jadewahoo wrote:

some people just don't see it that way, Jade and never will. I think our essential problem is that we have evolved technologically far faster than we have biologically or physchologically. So, as a species, we're out of step with what is healthy and valuable and many of us still believe that looking out for number 1 is the only way to fly.
I don't let it depress me though. I do what I can in my little life and sphere. That's all anyone can really do.

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 1:11pm

Hottest January in UAH satellite record - Human-caused global warming easily overwhelms much-hyped "cold snap"

Indeed, the January “cold snap” not only didn’t prove the case for (nonexistent) global cooling — it turns out that January was uber-hot around the globe! As leading anti-science guy Roy Spencer posted Thursday (including the figure above):

The global-average lower tropospheric temperature anomaly soared to +0.72 deg. C in January, 2010. This is the warmest January in the 32-year satellite-based data record….

Note the global-average warmth is approaching the warmth reached during the 1997-98 El Nino, which peaked in February of 1998.

Of course, right now we’re only in a moderate El Nino. In 97-98, we had a monster El Nino. And Spencer doesn’t mention that this record is especially impressive because we’re at “the deepest solar minimum in nearly a century.”

rosedraws

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 1:08pm

jadewahoo wrote:

Welly wrote:

miamizsun wrote:

Thanks Jade

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 1:04pm

Welly wrote:

miamizsun wrote:

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 12:54pm
miamizsun wrote: It is a nice concept, unfortunately, it is campaign rhetoric. Like balancing the budget, bringing troops home, or improving public education, etc. If their solution is nothing more than a tax increase with out any results, who are we going to hold accountable? Who have we held accountable before? (Nobody, of course.)

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 12:52pm
Welly wrote: It is a nice concept, unfortunately, it is campaign rhetoric. Like balancing the budget, bringing troops home, or improving public education, etc. If their solution is nothing more than a tax increase with out any results, who are we going to hold accountable? Who have we held accountable before? (Nobody, of course.)

Xeric

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 12:47pm
Welly wrote: Exactly. Just. Freakin'. Exactly.

rosedraws

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 12:44pm
Welly wrote: Love this one. It's on the cover of Funny Times.

Welly

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Posted: Feb 5, 2010 - 12:32pm

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