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islander

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Posted: Mar 11, 2015 - 8:56pm

 kurtster wrote:

Absolutely.  They put Obama in office.  Obama is a media creation.  He must be elected to "make history" was the marketing pitch, playing on white guilt.
 
For a guy who gets all bristly when some one hints at racism, you are really quick to trot this out.
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Posted: Mar 11, 2015 - 8:53pm

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

There is an aura of arrogance about her.
Kinda like Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer.
And not just because they're women.
I really like women.
In fact, I'm a lesbian.

Hey. I can complain they're from my State. {#Mrgreen}

 
Interesting the words we use to describe the same personality attributes in women vs. men. Sad, too.
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Posted: Mar 11, 2015 - 8:48pm

 lily34 wrote:
 islander wrote:

So are you ready to call it for the Republican candidate again?  (how did that work out last time?....{#Think}

 
I love this. I can't stand her. Never could. She's evil.
 
There is an aura of arrogance about her.
Kinda like Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer.
And not just because they're women.
I really like women.
In fact, I'm a lesbian.

Hey. I can complain they're from my State. {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Mar 11, 2015 - 7:04pm

 Steely_D wrote:

No "might." I do think that.

"The press" thinks it's a proxy for the people? It doesn't matter what they think of themselves. What do we think of them?
Are they accurate, factual, complete, well-reasoned, and unbiased? Hell, frequently they're not even literate

Again - they're a business. Their business requires capital, requires eyeballs. That's predicated on maintaining interest. The business model maintains interest by reporting conflict, so the press has a...wait for it...conflict of interest... 

Hillary using the wrong email makes her non-Presidential? Do people even listen to themselves when they complain anymore, or are they just proud that they're disagreeable?

 
Absolutely.  They put Obama in office.  Obama is a media creation.  He must be elected to "make history" was the marketing pitch, playing on white guilt.

They did it by not properly vetting him.  They abdicated their traditional role for their own ends.  The Fourth Estate is no longer what it was designed to be.  It brought forth the Pentagon Papers, drove Watergate to the point of driving a POTUS to resign under far less serious matters than we are dealing with today.

The 5 "W's" no longer apply at the national level.

I am forced to say what if it was a white male republican SOS we were talking about instead of the next "historic" POTUS ?  The media would be on him like stink on ...  You cannot deny that, at any level.  If Hillary is going to be the next POTUS, then are you saying that we already know everything we need to know about her already ?  Its more important to make history again ?

Newspapers exist for reasons other than advertising.  Setting public policy has always been the primary purpose of a newspaper.  The man bites dog stuff is just filler.  Telling people who to vote for has always been a role of the newspaper biz, at all levels.
 
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Posted: Mar 11, 2015 - 6:53pm

 islander wrote:

So are you ready to call it for the Republican candidate again?  (how did that work out last time?....{#Think}

 
:lol: I love this. I can't stand her. Never could. She's evil.
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Posted: Mar 11, 2015 - 6:43pm

 Beaker wrote: 
So are you ready to call it for the Republican candidate again?  (how did that work out last time?....{#Think}
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 11, 2015 - 5:12pm

 Steely_D wrote:
Hillary using the wrong email makes her non-Presidential? Do people even listen to themselves when they complain anymore, or are they just proud that they're disagreeable?
 
Someone on NPR described it as less a mistake, more a wake-up call.  Lots of government people have done the same; now we've lost a generation of records.

I was also a little dubya-tea-effy over learning that as someone leaves the government, IT would typically wipe that person's computer/emails based on whether someone somewhere thought they were important or not. Is storage space so pricey? That just makes no sense. 
kurtster

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Posted: Mar 11, 2015 - 12:57pm

When one embraces the philosophy that the ends justify the means, this is what you get.

Taking things one step further, if one embraces the above how can one be against torture in matters of war and national security without being hypocritical, for example ...

We are at the bottom of the slippery slope, not at the top.  Its in plain sight.  Corruption is beyond being tolerated, its accepted.  No longer do people try to find ways to live within the law, they look for ways to get around the law.  But if one takes a close look at all of our laws, everything is illegal.  It just depends now on who is looking and how big of a threat one is.

Nothing new, just that it has finally been institutionalized.

Everyone is a Treetop Flyer ...

 
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Posted: Mar 11, 2015 - 12:01pm

Here is some more stuff that actually matters:

Meet the Warmongering Billionaires Who Will Spend a Fortune to Influence the Next President

At the the event with Adelson, Saban had a crude prescription for what Israel should do about Iran. “I would bomb the living daylights out of the sons of bitches.” The answer came during a discussion of what Saban would do if he were Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and thought a nuclear deal with Iran was a threat to Israel.

His chosen candidate is Hillary Clinton, the front-runner for the Democratic Party nomination in 2016. As Bruck reported in the New Yorker, Saban has given millions of dollars to the Clintons in the form of donations to Bill Clinton’s presidential library and the Clinton Global Initiative.

Speaking about Clinton to the Washington Post at the conference, Saban said, “I have told her and everybody who’s asked me, ‘Whatever it takes, we’re going to be there…’ She would be a fantastic president for the United States, an incredible world leader and one under whom I believe — deeply — the relationship with the U.S. and Israel will be significantly reinforced.”

Clinton has given backers like Saban ample reason for thinking of her as the perfect candidate for Israel. During the 2008 presidential election, Clinton was asked by ABC’s “Good Morning America” what she would do if Iran used a nuclear weapon on Israel. “In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them,” she said. This year, in an interview with the Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg, she doubled down on her pro-Israel agenda. “If I were the prime minister of Israel, you’re damn right I would expect to have control over security ,” she said.


sirdroseph

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Posted: Mar 11, 2015 - 10:44am

 In other words....this:



 


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Posted: Mar 11, 2015 - 10:10am

 Beaker wrote: 
The train analogy is correct, but for different reasons.  There is no stopping the Hillary train, it has already been decided.  However, that is not even the main point of all this, what is more concerning is that even if the Republican shill they throw out there wins, is there really any difference?
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Posted: Oct 8, 2014 - 7:09pm

Warren Buffett 'will bet money' on Hillary Clinton as president
 
Straight from the top. Skip the charade and spend the money on something useful... {#Mrgreen}

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Posted: Sep 18, 2014 - 8:22am

 bokey wrote:
We all know none of the little guys are getting in the big chair.I think of all the bad choices we have,she's the most likely to try to undue some of the damage of Obama's failed Presidency.At least in the past she has expressed an interest in health care.(She couldn't have been grandstanding or lying,could she?)
 The first task of the next POTUS has to be undoing the incredible,unprecedented damage their predecessor has wrought and I think she's got more pull than the others wearing the big boy pants.

    Progress.{#Rolleyes}

 
I think Hillary embodies all the worst traits of Bush and Obama together.
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Posted: Sep 18, 2014 - 4:37am

 bokey wrote:
We all know none of the little guys are getting in the big chair.I think of all the bad choices we have,she's the most likely to try to undue some of the damage of Obama's failed Presidency.At least in the past she has expressed an interest in health care.(She couldn't have been grandstanding or lying,could she?)
 The first task of the next POTUS has to be undoing the incredible,unprecedented damage their predecessor has wrought and I think she's got more pull than the others wearing the big boy pants.

    Progress.{#Rolleyes}

 

Oh my, you are going to be one disillusioned puppy in about 3 or 4 years if you really think she is going to be different.{#Doh} Quite frankly Obama is probably the most benign of all the potential, major party candidates of the last 15 years or so.   He does seem to have some reticence and pause to what he is doing, Hillary is in perpetual Hulk smash mode once her advisors tell her what she should do to coop more power.
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Posted: Sep 17, 2014 - 7:56pm

 islander wrote:

But why doesn't a fed up electorate go looking for an alternative?  Have we become so conditioned to our fast food diet that we don't even look beyond McDonalds or Burger King?  There really are more choices, we just have to seek them out.  Ronald McD may be dominant in his market, but I have options.

 
Everyone is either too lazy or can't cook, or both.

~or~

Everyone is either too lazy or too stoopid to figure it out, or both. 

~or~

by the time Trey Gowdy gets done with Hillary, she will be flipping burgers at MickeyD's if she's lucky or cooking at Leavenworth if justice is served.
bokey

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Posted: Sep 17, 2014 - 2:27pm

We all know none of the little guys are getting in the big chair. I think of all the bad choices we have, she's the most likely to try to undue some of the damage of Obama's failed Presidency. At least in the past she has expressed an interest in health care. (She couldn't have been grandstanding or lying, could she? )
 The first task of the next POTUS has to be undoing the incredible, unprecedented damage their predecessor has wrought and I think she's got more pull than the others wearing the big boy pants.

    Progress. {#Rolleyes}
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Posted: Sep 16, 2014 - 12:37pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

Pitchforks.

 
neckbeard
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Posted: Sep 16, 2014 - 11:20am

 Rod wrote:

We may be slowly approaching that, but the deck is stacked pretty heavily against it with Citizens United, not allowing legitimate third party candidates into the debate process, etc. Needless to say, campaign finance reform would help. People are getting more fed up with the status quo and realizing that our typical candidates are for the most part, bought and paid for.

Anger gets things done. People need to get angry enough to demand changes to the process.

 
Pitchforks.
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Posted: Sep 16, 2014 - 11:15am

 islander wrote:

But why doesn't a fed up electorate go looking for an alternative?  Have we become so conditioned to our fast food diet that we don't even look beyond McDonalds or Burger King?  There really are more choices, we just have to seek them out.  Ronald McD may be dominant in his market, but I have options.

 
We may be slowly approaching that, but the deck is stacked pretty heavily against it with Citizens United, not allowing legitimate third party candidates into the debate process, etc. Needless to say, campaign finance reform would help. People are getting more fed up with the status quo and realizing that our typical candidates are for the most part, bought and paid for.

Anger gets things done. People need to get angry enough to demand changes to the process.


buzz

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Posted: Sep 16, 2014 - 6:55am

 islander wrote:

But why doesn't a fed up electorate go looking for an alternative?  Have we become so conditioned to our fast food diet that we don't even look beyond McDonalds or Burger King?  There really are more choices, we just have to seek them out.  Ronald McD may be dominant in his market, but I have options.

 
you mean like a draft Ronald McDemocrat campaign? 
 
 
I would like to see a well moderated debate between Hillary, Elizabeth, and Bernie. 
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