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Posted: May 20, 2011 - 4:17pm

 kurtster wrote:

This is an instance where I agree with you.

His ego is insatiable.

He is dumber than a box of rocks if he thinks for a minute that 1967 will even get off the ground.

 

my guess is that it is a negotiating start point

with the current Israeli government (ok, any Israeli administration) any concession seems to be taken as weakness so maybe he's seeing what a tough stance does

Personally I agree with him but this is really a matter of where the two sides ie the Palestinians and Israelis can get to to resolve this horrendous situation.


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Posted: May 20, 2011 - 4:04pm

 kurtster wrote:

This is an instance where I agree with you.

His ego is insatiable.

He is dumber than a box of rocks if he thinks for a minute that 1967 will even get off the ground.

 
Do you really think he would come out and say what he did without completely creating a scenario for this? This is not a dumb man, by any means. You can be sure that plans are in place already. If you don't get that, you have no understanding of how this president operates.

This man does not run out of the space of his ego. If you had read the article I posted awhile ago about his upbringing you would have a better understanding of where he is coming from.

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Posted: May 20, 2011 - 3:57pm

 kurtster wrote:

This is an instance where I agree with you.

His ego is insatiable.

He is dumber than a box of rocks if he thinks for a minute that 1967 will even get off the ground.
 

hippiechick

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Posted: May 20, 2011 - 3:53pm

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I'm figuring that Obama is using his surge in popularity, and the lack of a reasonable opposition in the next election, to take a chance by alienating the Jewish voters.

In a situation where it's likely to be close, you don't want to anger any of your potential supporters. In this case, figuring that he's a sho-in for reelection, he can do what he wants, even if it angers a subset of his base. If they don't like it, what are they going to do, vote Republican?

I'd expect him to do a lot more swaggering and speaking out at this point. This might get good. 

 
I am guessing from my small sampling, that many American Jews are having a hard time standing behind Israel, finding them an embarrassment in the least. Jews would like peace in Israel as well. It's the crazy Orthodox that make all the trouble there.

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Posted: May 20, 2011 - 3:52pm

I wonder if Obama, or anyone else in his administration, has ever read the Hamas charter.
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Posted: May 20, 2011 - 3:49pm

 dmax wrote:
I'm figuring that Obama is using his surge in popularity, and the lack of a reasonable opposition in the next election, to take a chance by alienating the Jewish voters.

In a situation where it's likely to be close, you don't want to anger any of your potential supporters. In this case, figuring that he's a sho-in for reelection, he can do what he wants, even if it angers a subset of his base. If they don't like it, what are they going to do, vote Republican?

I'd expect him to do a lot more swaggering and speaking out at this point. This might get good. 

 
This is an instance where I agree with you.

His ego is insatiable.

He is dumber than a box of rocks if he thinks for a minute that 1967 will even get off the ground.
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Posted: May 20, 2011 - 3:00pm


Just do it. UN forces maintain peace & the 1967 borders. The US needs to cut $$$ aid to Israel until they cease building settlements on Palestinian land & stop inhumane bulldozing Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem.

ByeByeBibi

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Posted: May 20, 2011 - 12:45pm

 dmax wrote:
I'm figuring that Obama is using his surge in popularity, and the lack of a reasonable opposition in the next election, to take a chance by alienating the Jewish voters.

In a situation where it's likely to be close, you don't want to anger any of your potential supporters. In this case, figuring that he's a sho-in for reelection, he can do what he wants, even if it angers a subset of his base. If they don't like it, what are they going to do, vote Republican?

I'd expect him to do a lot more swaggering and speaking out at this point. This might get good. 

 
I like to imagine his actions are more closely related to trying to broker some kind of peace deal, rather than merely pursuing political ends. But I have a vivid imagination, so who knows.

I do not see how either side of the conflict will ever agree to anything. Using pre-1967 borders is a non-starter. Stopping the construction of new settlements is a non-starter. Making Jerusalem the capitol of Palestine is a non-starter. Agreeing to the right of Israel to exist is a non-starter. Too many extremists on all sides.

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Posted: May 20, 2011 - 11:33am

I'm figuring that Obama is using his surge in popularity, and the lack of a reasonable opposition in the next election, to take a chance by alienating the Jewish voters.

In a situation where it's likely to be close, you don't want to anger any of your potential supporters. In this case, figuring that he's a sho-in for reelection, he can do what he wants, even if it angers a subset of his base. If they don't like it, what are they going to do, vote Republican?

I'd expect him to do a lot more swaggering and speaking out at this point. This might get good. 
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Posted: May 18, 2011 - 10:29pm

 nuggler wrote:

If there is any doubt in your mind here's all the proof you'll need that you are being watched by the SS on these social networks. I would suggest that you refrain from mentioning or implying anything that could be construed, even mistakenly, as a threat to the POTUS. I would add to that that you refrain from critically attacking ZIONISM as well.
 
If that's true, then wouldn't you be disappeared by now?

If you're not disappeared, not even picked up for questioning, then what concern should any of us have?

Perhaps your tinfoil hat protects you. 


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Posted: May 18, 2011 - 9:56pm


If there is any doubt in your mind here's all the proof you'll need that you are being watched by the SS on these social networks. I would suggest that you refrain from mentioning or implying anything that could be construed, even mistakenly, as a threat to the POTUS. I would add to that that you refrain from critically attacking ZIONISM as well.



 
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Posted: May 16, 2011 - 2:31pm

 jadewahoo wrote:

 

I knew you'd get it...
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Posted: May 16, 2011 - 2:30pm

 oldviolin wrote:


suspend any conditional pretext and re submit...

 


 

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Posted: May 16, 2011 - 2:27pm

 jadewahoo wrote:


You know that was wasted...
Or am I? Nah, couldn't be, I don't do.
Well, someone is wasted, or is wasted upon.
Yeah, ok. 

 

suspend any conditional pretext and re submit...
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Posted: May 16, 2011 - 2:24pm

 oldviolin wrote:


You know that was wasted...
Or am I? Nah, couldn't be, I don't do.
Well, someone is wasted, or is wasted upon.
Yeah, ok. 


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Posted: May 16, 2011 - 1:53pm


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Posted: May 16, 2011 - 5:34am

 nuggler wrote:


....who's going to find herself caught up on the wrong side of history. Its not too late to make right, but you are running out of time.
 
It absolutely doesn't matter to me. I used to care, but I have no power to change anything.

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Posted: May 16, 2011 - 5:32am

 hippiechick wrote:

Just a regular ol' person trying to make it from one day to the other.
 

....who's going to find herself caught up on the wrong side of history. Its not too late to make right, but you are running out of time.

hippiechick

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Posted: May 16, 2011 - 5:28am

 nuggler wrote:

So you allowed yourself to get sucked in by the MSM once more & learned a new phrase in the process last night. Now you want to impress me with your new found "knowledge". Its a stupid question because once again you've allowed the pop-cult MSM to stir up your fear & paranoia & that's why you asked it. I have never owned a firearm so that right there should answer your question. Me, as I've pointed out many times, I'm nothing more than a conscientious participator. That's me. What are you....?
 
Just a regular ol' person trying to make it from one day to the other.

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Posted: May 16, 2011 - 5:24am

 hippiechick wrote:

You didn't answer my question

 
So you allowed yourself to get sucked in by the MSM once more & learned a new phrase in the process last night. Now you want to impress me with your new found buzz words & "knowledge". Its a stupid question because once again you've allowed the pop-cult MSM to stir up your fear & paranoia & that's why you asked it. I have never owned a firearm so that right there should answer your question. Me, as I've pointed out many times, I'm nothing more than a conscientious participator. That's me. What are you....?

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