[ ]   [ ]   [ ]                        [ ]      [ ]   [ ]

Wordle - daily game - ptooey - May 4, 2024 - 6:30pm
 
May 2024 Photo Theme - Peaceful - Isabeau - May 4, 2024 - 5:28pm
 
What can you hear right now? - Isabeau - May 4, 2024 - 5:25pm
 
Favorite Quotes - Isabeau - May 4, 2024 - 5:21pm
 
Radio Paradise Comments - Isabeau - May 4, 2024 - 5:15pm
 
Today in History - R_P - May 4, 2024 - 4:58pm
 
Trump - islander - May 4, 2024 - 4:37pm
 
volcano! - geoff_morphini - May 4, 2024 - 4:19pm
 
What Did You See Today? - Antigone - May 4, 2024 - 4:17pm
 
Anti-War - R_P - May 4, 2024 - 3:24pm
 
Tesla (motors, batteries, etc) - KurtfromLaQuinta - May 4, 2024 - 2:36pm
 
Iran - Red_Dragon - May 4, 2024 - 12:03pm
 
USA! USA! USA! - R_P - May 4, 2024 - 11:27am
 
Live Music - oldviolin - May 4, 2024 - 11:18am
 
NY Times Strands - geoff_morphini - May 4, 2024 - 10:26am
 
NYTimes Connections - NoEnzLefttoSplit - May 4, 2024 - 10:25am
 
Other Medical Stuff - kurtster - May 4, 2024 - 10:24am
 
Israel - R_P - May 4, 2024 - 9:26am
 
SCOTUS - Steely_D - May 4, 2024 - 8:04am
 
Dialing 1-800-Manbird - oldviolin - May 3, 2024 - 4:51pm
 
The Dragons' Roost - GeneP59 - May 3, 2024 - 3:53pm
 
Name My Band - oldviolin - May 3, 2024 - 3:04pm
 
RightWingNutZ - islander - May 3, 2024 - 11:55am
 
Photography Forum - Your Own Photos - MrDill - May 3, 2024 - 11:41am
 
Poetry Forum - oldviolin - May 3, 2024 - 9:46am
 
What the hell OV? - oldviolin - May 3, 2024 - 9:36am
 
• • • The Once-a-Day • • •  - oldviolin - May 3, 2024 - 9:24am
 
Lyrics that strike a chord today... - R_P - May 3, 2024 - 7:54am
 
Derplahoma! - sunybuny - May 3, 2024 - 4:56am
 
Unquiet Minds - Mental Health Forum - miamizsun - May 3, 2024 - 4:36am
 
What Makes You Laugh? - miamizsun - May 3, 2024 - 4:31am
 
Russia - NoEnzLefttoSplit - May 3, 2024 - 3:38am
 
Main Mix Playlist - R567 - May 3, 2024 - 12:06am
 
Who Killed The Electric Car??? -- The Movie - KurtfromLaQuinta - May 2, 2024 - 9:51pm
 
If not RP, what are you listening to right now? - oldviolin - May 2, 2024 - 5:56pm
 
Joe Biden - R_P - May 2, 2024 - 5:07pm
 
What Makes You Sad? - thisbody - May 2, 2024 - 3:35pm
 
songs that ROCK! - thisbody - May 2, 2024 - 3:07pm
 
Breaking News - thisbody - May 2, 2024 - 2:57pm
 
Song of the Day - oldviolin - May 2, 2024 - 9:27am
 
Questions. - oldviolin - May 2, 2024 - 9:13am
 
The Obituary Page - Proclivities - May 2, 2024 - 7:42am
 
And the good news is.... - Bill_J - May 1, 2024 - 6:30pm
 
Bug Reports & Feature Requests - ladron - May 1, 2024 - 6:22pm
 
Things you would be grating food for - Manbird - May 1, 2024 - 3:58pm
 
Economix - black321 - May 1, 2024 - 12:19pm
 
I Heart Huckabee - NOT! - Manbird - Apr 30, 2024 - 7:49pm
 
Democratic Party - R_P - Apr 30, 2024 - 4:01pm
 
Oh, The Stupidity - haresfur - Apr 30, 2024 - 3:30pm
 
Talk Behind Their Backs Forum - VV - Apr 30, 2024 - 1:46pm
 
Canada - black321 - Apr 30, 2024 - 1:37pm
 
Mixtape Culture Club - miamizsun - Apr 30, 2024 - 7:02am
 
Food - Bill_J - Apr 29, 2024 - 7:46pm
 
New Music - ScottFromWyoming - Apr 29, 2024 - 11:36am
 
Upcoming concerts or shows you can't wait to see - ScottFromWyoming - Apr 29, 2024 - 8:34am
 
Photos you haven't taken of yourself - Antigone - Apr 29, 2024 - 5:03am
 
Britain - R_P - Apr 28, 2024 - 10:47am
 
Birthday wishes - GeneP59 - Apr 28, 2024 - 9:56am
 
Would you drive this car for dating with ur girl? - KurtfromLaQuinta - Apr 27, 2024 - 9:53pm
 
Classical Music - miamizsun - Apr 27, 2024 - 1:23pm
 
LeftWingNutZ - Lazy8 - Apr 27, 2024 - 12:46pm
 
Things You Thought Today - Red_Dragon - Apr 27, 2024 - 12:17pm
 
The Moon - KurtfromLaQuinta - Apr 26, 2024 - 9:08pm
 
April 2024 Photo Theme - Happenstance - fractalv - Apr 26, 2024 - 8:59pm
 
Musky Mythology - Red_Dragon - Apr 26, 2024 - 7:23pm
 
Mini Meetups - Post Here! - Red_Dragon - Apr 26, 2024 - 4:02pm
 
Australia has Disappeared - Red_Dragon - Apr 26, 2024 - 2:41pm
 
Radio Paradise sounding better recently - firefly6 - Apr 26, 2024 - 10:39am
 
Neil Young - Steely_D - Apr 26, 2024 - 9:20am
 
Country Up The Bumpkin - KurtfromLaQuinta - Apr 26, 2024 - 9:01am
 
Environmental, Brilliance or Stupidity - miamizsun - Apr 26, 2024 - 5:07am
 
Ask an Atheist - R_P - Apr 25, 2024 - 11:02am
 
Afghanistan - R_P - Apr 25, 2024 - 10:26am
 
Science in the News - Red_Dragon - Apr 25, 2024 - 10:00am
 
The Abortion Wars - Isabeau - Apr 25, 2024 - 9:27am
 
Index » Regional/Local » USA/Canada » Rally To Restore Sanity Washington DC RP meetup Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4 ... 16, 17, 18  Next
Post to this Topic
Mugro

Mugro Avatar

Location: Grand Duchy of Luxembourg


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 8:49am

 Zep wrote:

Focusing on the press here... I don't see that the media understands its responsibilities as a counterbalance to its rights.  Is this in the Constitution?  I think it is implied.  In that era (late 18th century), rights accrued from a common duty.  See, for example, Thomas More.  This is built into the First Amendment (and the 2nd, 4th, and 6th Amendments — guns, search/seizure, jury trials, and more I'm sure.)  

Going back further, the Crown granted licenses for publishers it considered friendly.  The American Revolution removed the requirement that the press be an organ of the state, but it retained the duty and responsibility for fair reporting.  

What I see today is a focus on "rights" — it's a person's right to ____ (fill in the blank) — with no recognition of the corresponding responsibility.  This ranges far beyond the media.  The question becomes, does the media reflect society?  Or is the media the leader?  The answer is important because it helps to find a way out of this mess. 

 

 

Interesting question. I don't think I have the answer. Perhaps it is a mixture of both.
Zep

Zep Avatar

Location: Funkytown


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 8:48am

 bokey wrote:
Could you  imagine all the crap that Thomas Paine would have gotten if he was around during the internet days?
 


Truly. Great to see you here.
 

bokey

bokey Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 8:47am

 Zep wrote:

Focusing on the press here. . . I don't see that the media understands its responsibilities as a counterbalance to its rights.  Is this in the Constitution?  I think it is implied.  In that era (late 18th century), rights accrued from a common duty.  See, for example, Thomas More.  This is built into the First Amendment (and the 2nd, 4th, and 6th Amendments — guns, search/seizure, jury trials, and more I'm sure. )  

Going back further, the Crown granted licenses for publishers it considered friendly.  The American Revolution removed the requirement that the press be an organ of the state, but it retained the duty and responsibility for fair reporting.  

What I see today is a focus on "rights" — it's a person's right to ____ (fill in the blank) — with no recognition of the corresponding responsibility.  This ranges far beyond the media.  The question becomes, does the media reflect society?  Or is the media the leader?  The answer is important because it helps to find a way out of this mess.  

 

 
Could you  imagine all the crap that Thomas Paine would have gotten if he was around during the internet days?

   

geoff_morphini

geoff_morphini Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 8:46am

 Zep wrote:

I read his statement somewhat differently: elected officials and media, by virtue of their positions of leadership, power, authority, and influence, have duties to conduct themselves in a more considered manner, and they have largely shirked their responsibilities. 

 
That was exactly the way I heard it also.
Zep

Zep Avatar

Location: Funkytown


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 8:42am

 steeler wrote:
Probably was his intent, but I'm not at all sure it will be construed that way.

I do agree that those you have mentioned are certainly part of the problem, and that they should be held to higher standards as constitutional actors (the press is well reflected in the Constitution).

I just do not want the message to be that we are all ok, and simply being led astray by these particular institutional actors.      
 
Focusing on the press here... I don't see that the media understands its responsibilities as a counterbalance to its rights.  Is this in the Constitution?  I think it is implied.  In that era (late 18th century), rights accrued from a common duty.  See, for example, Thomas More.  This is built into the First Amendment (and the 2nd, 4th, and 6th Amendments — guns, search/seizure, jury trials, and more I'm sure.)  

Going back further, the Crown granted licenses for publishers it considered friendly.  The American Revolution removed the requirement that the press be an organ of the state, but it retained the duty and responsibility for fair reporting.  

What I see today is a focus on "rights" — it's a person's right to ____ (fill in the blank) — with no recognition of the corresponding responsibility.  This ranges far beyond the media.  The question becomes, does the media reflect society?  Or is the media the leader?  The answer is important because it helps to find a way out of this mess. 

 
steeler

steeler Avatar

Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 8:21am

 Zep wrote:

I read his statement somewhat differently: elected officials and media, by virtue of their positions of leadership, power, authority, and influence, have duties to conduct themselves in a more considered manner, and they have largely shirked their responsibilities. 

 

Probably was his intent, but I'm not at all sure it will be construed that way.

I do agree that those you have mentioned are certainly part of the problem, and that they should be held to higher standards as constitutional actors (the press is well reflected in the Constitution).

I just do not want the message to be that we are all ok, and simply being led astray by these particular institutional actors.      
Red_Dragon

Red_Dragon Avatar

Location: Dumbf*ckistan


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 8:05am

 Zep wrote:

I read his statement somewhat differently: elected officials and media, by virtue of their positions of leadership, power, authority, and influence, have duties to conduct themselves in a more considered manner, and they have largely abrogated their responsibilities. 

 
I didn't see/hear Stewart's comments, but I agree with what you said here 100%.  The same holds true for police.

Zep

Zep Avatar

Location: Funkytown


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 8:03am

 steeler wrote:
I was a bit disappointed that Stewart concluded by appearing to lay most, if not all, of the blame upon elected officials in Washington and the cable TV media.   
 
I read his statement somewhat differently: elected officials and media, by virtue of their positions of leadership, power, authority, and influence, have duties to conduct themselves in a more considered manner, and they have largely shirked their responsibilities. 


Mugro

Mugro Avatar

Location: Grand Duchy of Luxembourg


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 7:43am


Sean-E-Sean

Sean-E-Sean Avatar

Location: Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 7:41am




samiyam

samiyam Avatar

Location: Moving North


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 7:40am

 Sean-E-Sean wrote:

...*laughing*...there is photographic evidence...
 


steeler

steeler Avatar

Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 7:39am

I was a bit disappointed that Stewart concluded by appearing to lay most, if not all, of the blame upon elected officials in Washington and the cable TV media.   
Sean-E-Sean

Sean-E-Sean Avatar

Location: Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 7:24am

 meower wrote:
ang.jpg picture by sdrabble

our friend Ang.

 
...love that!...Love Ang too!...

meower

meower Avatar

Location: i believe, i believe, it's silly, but I believe
Gender: Female


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 7:18am

ang.jpg picture by sdrabble

our friend Ang.
meower

meower Avatar

Location: i believe, i believe, it's silly, but I believe
Gender: Female


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 7:14am

 oldslabsides wrote:

Dio will argue about Joe being a communist. {#Lol}

 

 
Red_Dragon

Red_Dragon Avatar

Location: Dumbf*ckistan


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 7:13am

 meower wrote:
hawaiin.jpg picture by sdrabble

 
Dio will argue about Joe being a communist. {#Lol}
meower

meower Avatar

Location: i believe, i believe, it's silly, but I believe
Gender: Female


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 7:09am

hawaiin.jpg picture by sdrabble
Sean-E-Sean

Sean-E-Sean Avatar

Location: Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc


Posted: Oct 31, 2010 - 6:08am

 OCDHG wrote:
Who do you call when you're lost in D.C. and need a dinner recommendation and directions?  Someone in the middle of Wyoming, of course.  Sit as far away from the driver as possible, in the trunk or cargo area is good idea... this makes communication between Wyoming—Personwiththephone—Driver really interesting.
PS— the sushi was good! :-)
 
...*laughing*...there is photographic evidence...

DownHomeGirl

DownHomeGirl Avatar

Location: American Russia
Gender: Female


Posted: Oct 30, 2010 - 7:38pm

Who do you call when you're lost in D.C. and need a dinner recommendation and directions?  Someone in the middle of Wyoming, of course.  Sit as far away from the driver as possible, in the trunk or cargo area is good idea... this makes communication between Wyoming—Personwiththephone—Driver really interesting.
PS— the sushi was good! :-)

kaupmees

kaupmees Avatar

Location: tried to miss 'em but he didn't quite
Gender: Male


Posted: Oct 30, 2010 - 4:13pm

Okay, the Wyoming connection has contributed dinner suggestions to the RP contingent.

That was fun.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4 ... 16, 17, 18  Next