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justlistening
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oldviolin wrote:
Ok, you're just funnin' now...admit it
I don't know...I mean, I just don't know...
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oldviolin
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Dec 19, 2010 - 11:32pm |
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justlistening wrote: Ok, you're just funnin' now...admit it
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justlistening
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Dec 19, 2010 - 11:30pm |
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Manbird wrote: PROOF OF GOD
• • Dear god please fill this can back up with beer nuts.
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OlderThanDirt
Location: In Transit Gender:
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Dec 19, 2010 - 11:24pm |
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kurtster wrote: No! God placed a sign in the sky promising smooth running.
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kurtster
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Dec 19, 2010 - 11:19pm |
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Manbird wrote: PROOF OF GOD
• You can tell who is human and who is alien by how high they can throw their shoes.
The following then must be a sign of an atheist, my bad ...
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justlistening
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Dec 19, 2010 - 11:02pm |
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oldviolin wrote:
I like stuff too! But then...
I believe the stuff forum is hereI've been meaning to visit
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oldviolin
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Dec 19, 2010 - 11:00pm |
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justlistening wrote: not me of course, but that's what i hear, i think, anyway. yeah..
I like stuff too! But then...
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Manbird
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Dec 19, 2010 - 10:59pm |
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oldviolin wrote:
I defer to Manbird...or something PROOF OF GOD
• Turkeys are not gods - yet nor are they mere humans. What are they?
• Dear god please fill this can back up with beer nuts.
• What would you say if god smote your tongue. Nothing is what.
• Don't shoot guns into the air in case you hit god even though he could probably tolerate the pain since he is after all god.
• I can't wait to die soIi can get a good look at god's hairbrush.
• You can tell who is human and who is alien by how high they can throw their shoes.
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justlistening
Location: So. California Gender:
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Dec 19, 2010 - 10:58pm |
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oldviolin wrote:
oh yeah?
not me of course, but that's what i hear, i think, anyway. yeah..
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oldviolin
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Dec 19, 2010 - 10:55pm |
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justlistening wrote:You know there are those of us here that will be glad to enlighten you oh yeah?
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oldviolin
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Dec 19, 2010 - 10:54pm |
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oldviolin wrote:I don't know...I mean, I just don't know...
I defer to Manbird ...or something
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justlistening
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Dec 19, 2010 - 10:53pm |
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oldviolin wrote:I don't know...I mean, I just don't know...
You know there are those of us here that will be glad to enlighten you
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justlistening
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Dec 19, 2010 - 10:52pm |
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kurtster wrote: Ummm, a little of both perhaps. I can say I do believe that evil is a real force in life. I don't pretend to know the source, however. I just acknowledge it.
Perhaps, its merely rooted in genetics, or there is truly a greater force that can influence and in some cases "posess" individuals.
I know this thread was not started by an Atheist, but I thought it was a sincere question worth asking, because evil as I have come to know it is purely a religious creation.
I think there is a difference between amorality and evil. The difference to me between the two is that evil has a purpose.
Interesting thoughts. Maybe it's the price we pay for being "thinking" beings. As horrid as this may sound, I have often wondered if evil is like sex; both base emotions and drives that are necessary for survival. Surely in the wild it's killed or be killed. At some level we have to be wired to perform acts we would abhor doing otherwise in the name of survival, or protecting loved ones (a child for instance). And just like animals that fight for territory and food for survival - we must have this instinct inside of us too. And just like sex can have a wide range of practices outside it's basic purpose of procreation (BDSM for instance), the violence we are capable of for survival can also be preverted. The brain works by making associations. We take for granted that everyone will filter out the most horrific associations or at least know not to act on them. But we are also emotional beings. Witness movies like Saw and you know what humans are capable of imagining. Perhaps our brains are just imperfect and there are those among us who are incapable of separating the imagination from action.
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oldviolin
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Dec 19, 2010 - 10:51pm |
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I don't know...I mean, I just don't know...
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kurtster
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Dec 19, 2010 - 10:30pm |
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justlistening wrote:So Kurster, do I take your comments to imply that you feel there is an evil force independent of the individual which "posesses" (for lack of a better word) them to do evil? Or am I reading into it?
Ummm, a little of both perhaps. I can say I do believe that evil is a real force in life. I don't pretend to know the source, however. I just acknowledge it. Perhaps its merely rooted in genetics, or there is truly a greater force that can influence and in some cases "posess" individuals. I know this thread was not started by an Atheist, but I thought it was a sincere question worth asking, because evil as I have come to know it is purely a religious creation. I think there is a difference between amorality and evil. The difference to me between the two is that evil has a purpose.
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justlistening
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Dec 19, 2010 - 10:09pm |
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So Kurster, do I take your comments to imply that you feel there is an evil force independent of the individual which "posesses" (for lack of a better word) them to do evil? Or am I reading into it?
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kurtster
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RichardPrins wrote: Interesting discussion, I was actually already aware of the two studies, the Stanford and the shock test for some time, although I forget where or when. It doesn't really answer my question per se in that it does not answer what force drives the power that grants the ability to manipulate the people who perform the evil illustrated. An old cliché is that power can be used for both good and evil. So with that in mind, it takes us back to the question I posed, still open and unanswered. Power is a tool, not the source. Unless one considers that absolute power corrupts absolutely, which leads one to the possible conclusion that power is inherently evil. Grist for the mill ...
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oldviolin
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