Linear border walls are built alongside the "unstable and circuitous" river banks of the Rio Grande. Many times the engineers leave a strip of American land between the river bank and the border wall. It's US territory, but it's on the "wrong" side of the fence. Would-be immigrants into the US need only cross the Rio Grande and set foot on that "no-man's land" strip of US territory to assert their legal right to claim asylum in the US. They don't have breach or cross over the border wall into the rest of the US.
Nice strawman. Go back and read the first line of the second paragraph (actually, maybe re-read the entire second paragraph).
I'm saying - What are we trying to accomplish with borders. And are we being effective with it. I value lines of demarcation for many reasons, I just want them to be for a (legitimate) reason, and for enforcement not to be arbitrary.
I'm saying - What are we trying to accomplish with borders. And are we being effective with it. I value lines of demarcation for many reasons, I just want them to be for a (legitimate) reason, and for enforcement not to be arbitrary.
that's exactly the question we should be asking, but im not hearing it from either (political) side . the general consensus among the people of the country seems to be that we need some type of controls for our border, but what exactly does that mean? Even trump and his wall is not clear what exactly he means, which seems to be by intent, implying something to flare up the left and right against and for, respectively. Regardless, that's i think its more important to being asking and answering that question first.
Should we remove all walls everywhere including gated communities and say Zuckerberg's mansion in Hawaii, is this not the same principle? Gringos get a bad name in foreign countries by creating walled enclaves around their property. Most of these people are very wealthy. Are they just not continuing the same American tradition of gated communities and homes of the elite class here in America? I mean since we are talking philosophical and all.
Nice strawman. Go back and read the first line of the second paragraph (actually, maybe re-read the entire second paragraph).
I'm saying - What are we trying to accomplish with borders. And are we being effective with it. I value lines of demarcation for many reasons, I just want them to be for a (legitimate) reason, and for enforcement not to be arbitrary.
a lot of them are just silly roadblocks across imaginary lines
how do we incentivize the voluntary meeting/relationship of talent and opportunity? (i know trick question)
immigration and trade are great tools to develop the opportunity for tech and talent
horrible foreign policy and political capture are holding us back more than we'll ever know
I agree with your sentiment, but i think many in this country stumble with that one line. Most, it is my understanding, want secure borders . How do we accomplish that while encouraging a fair, robust immigration system that reflects the historical "high" values of this country?
currently, it might make some sense to have a wall or barrier where there is urban contact
probably discourages violence being shielded from international law
bad peeps cross the border (say a street) inflict some violence and then skate back across a border in a manner that may be difficult to rectify
as far as legit immigration, education, trade and production are concerned?
maybe a reasonable quick screen for disease and history of violence would suffice
a lot of them are just silly roadblocks across imaginary lines
how do we incentivize the voluntary meeting/relationship of talent and opportunity? (i know trick question)
immigration and trade are great tools to develop the opportunity for tech and talent
horrible foreign policy and political capture are holding us back more than we'll ever know
I agree with your sentiment, but i think many in this country stumble with that one line. Most, it is my understanding, want secure borders . How do we accomplish that while encouraging a fair, robust immigration system that reflects the historical "high" values of this country?
what does that border separate? Rules are different on each side, but what does that represent? You used the word values, so are the values that different on either side? Are the actions of our enforcement along that arbitrary line consistent with the values we espouse to justify it?
I'm by no means saying we shouldn't have borders. But we should look closely at what they mean and how we use them for management of things on all scales. Why are our state borders so open? Are our state to state values so much more consistent than our country to country values? If we can justify an impermeable border wall between us and Mexico, I bet we can do the same with some other states (or cities) based on the exact same criteria. What then is the difference?
Should we remove all walls everywhere including gated communities and say Zuckerberg's mansion in Hawaii, is this not the same principle? Gringos get a bad name in foreign countries by creating walled enclaves around their property. Most of these people are very wealthy. Are they just not continuing the same American tradition of gated communities and homes of the elite class here in America? I mean since we are talking philosophical and all.
a lot of them are just silly roadblocks across imaginary lines
how do we incentivize the voluntary meeting/relationship of talent and opportunity? (i know trick question)
immigration and trade are great tools to develop the opportunity for tech and talent
horrible foreign policy and political capture are holding us back more than we'll ever know
I agree with your sentiment, but i think many in this country stumble with that one line. Most, it is my understanding, want secure borders . How do we accomplish that while encouraging a fair, robust immigration system that reflects the historical "high" values of this country?
what does that border separate? Rules are different on each side, but what does that represent? You used the word values, so are the values that different on either side? Are the actions of our enforcement along that arbitrary line consistent with the values we espouse to justify it?
I'm by no means saying we shouldn't have borders. But we should look closely at what they mean and how we use them for management of things on all scales. Why are our state borders so open? Are our state to state values so much more consistent than our country to country values? If we can justify an impermeable border wall between us and Mexico, I bet we can do the same with some other states (or cities) based on the exact same criteria. What then is the difference?
a lot of them are just silly roadblocks across imaginary lines
how do we incentivize the voluntary meeting/relationship of talent and opportunity? (i know trick question)
immigration and trade are great tools to develop the opportunity for tech and talent
horrible foreign policy and political capture are holding us back more than we'll ever know
I agree with your sentiment, but i think many in this country stumble with that one line. Most, it is my understanding, want secure borders . How do we accomplish that while encouraging a fair, robust immigration system that reflects the historical "high" values of this country?
The U.S. immigration system has changed dramatically in the last two years under the Trump administration. As another Congress comes into power, lawmakers are undoubtedly going to debate and discuss various immigration issues. While funding the wall and the fate of Dreamers loom largest, narrower reform items also deserve attention, such as reforming the H-2B temporary-laborer program or the per-country caps on visas.
However, in the face of constant litigation and a deluge of new regulations, itâs also a useful exercise to take a step back and examine ideas that are less polished, less popular, and less pressing. Here are five big reform ideas that arenât ready for prime time but warrant engagement in the coming years as our immigration system continues evolving.
#1: Create a New Development Visa
#2: Improve, Expand, and Relaunch the Central American Minors (CAM) Program
#3: Allow Private Sponsorship of Refugees in Conjunction with Federal Support
Across the globe, governments are looking to better leverage private-sector resources to resettle refugees. The United States is lagging, despite a vibrant philanthropic community that is looking for ways to help.
By launching programs that allow charities, volunteers, churches, businesses, and universities to sponsor additional refugees and meet their needs, we can improve integration outcomes and increase fiscal efficiency.
Canada has led the world on this issue, but Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Germany, Ireland, Italy, New Zealand, Spain, Switzerland, the U.K, and others are engaging civil society more directly to enhance their resettlement apparatuses; the United States should build on the lessons learned from those programs.
#4: Scale EB-5 to Fund Infrastructure
#5: Improve Access to Health Care Across Rural America
Conclusion:
The time is now to introduce new ideas into the policy bloodstream. By thinking big and daring to consider dynamic solutions to our immigration problems, we can invigorate a conversation about what a 21st century U.S. immigration system could and should look like.
The policy process is long and â increasingly often â frustrating, but we look forward to working with Congress and the policy community on deepening the dialogue around these key issues this year and beyond.
Cool. Different folks will take away different impressions but it seems to me that this whole border wall focus seems to be missing the larger point, that we're having wave after wave of immigration and the time of the Latin American migration might be at a plateau; the far east migration is picking up steam.
(without going cosmic/largest point)
broadly speaking your dna, your source code, is about three billion letters (a, c, t, g)
those four letters are in a very specific order which makes you sfw
the kicker is that the order of those letters is/are/has been/will be 99.9 percent identical to every other human being on earth
so in a weird way, you are red dragon and red dragon is you, but you are not the boss of red dragon and he is not the boss of you (times eight billion)
if red dragon is peaceful, free from contagious disease and voluntarily decides to move, you and i let him, even if he crosses an imaginary line (political border)
immigration is just simply moving and walls erected to stop people from a chance at a better life are stupid = a good larger point
people have different reasons (it usually involves greater satisfaction)
a lot of other power hungry people want to control what we do, who we do it with and where we do it
they want to do it in a way that translates to them staying in power
all of this forced political tribalization, the moralizing, the demonizing, the dehumanizing, leads to one thing
Cool. Different folks will take away different impressions but it seems to me that this whole border wall focus seems to be missing the larger point, that we're having wave after wave of immigration and the time of the Latin American migration might be at a plateau; the far east migration is picking up steam.
Cool. Different folks will take away different impressions but it seems to me that this whole border wall focus seems to be missing the larger point, that we're having wave after wave of immigration and the time of the Latin American migration might be at a plateau; the far east migration is picking up steam.
Cool. Different folks will take away different impressions but it seems to me that this whole border wall focus seems to be missing the larger point, that we're having wave after wave of immigration and the time of the Latin American migration might be at a plateau; the far east migration is picking up steam.
We were surprised by the amount of Asian population that we saw in Vancouver last year. Related to land purchases, I'm gathering. Just wasn't on my radar before I got there.
I remember hearing about that some time ago so I expect that wave is onto its second generation by now...
Cool. Different folks will take away different impressions but it seems to me that this whole border wall focus seems to be missing the larger point, that we're having wave after wave of immigration and the time of the Latin American migration might be at a plateau; the far east migration is picking up steam.
We were surprised by the amount of Asian population that we saw in Vancouver last year. Related to land purchases, I'm gathering. Just wasn't on my radar before I got there.
Cool. Different folks will take away different impressions but it seems to me that this whole border wall focus seems to be missing the larger point, that we're having wave after wave of immigration and the time of the Latin American migration might be at a plateau; the far east migration is picking up steam.
