h_in_bristol wrote: 
Are you running any 'cleanup' or 'disk management' apps?  Are you very low on device storage?  What you describe is what happens when the app cache has been deleted or overwritten.

Note that even if you've chosen to move the app to an SD card, the cache will remain in device storage.  Nothing that we can do about that at this point.

Similar problem here.

Running version 3.5.10.gp of the app on a Nexus5 running android 6.0.1

Have tried reducing cache length  to 15 minutes + did stop caching.
However, the app seems to insist of doing 5+ hours of cache, and then just moves from one track to the next (after about 5 seconds), no music playing :-(

 

 patomarc wrote: 
It looks like we may need to deprecate our caching app on Android versions <= 4.0.4 & replace it with our legacy (non-caching) app. I'm going to spend a bit more time trying to sort out what's happening, but unfortunately you're one of a very small number of our users who are running a version that old, and my time (& that of our Android developer) is primarily focused on the next version of our app.

You can download the old version here:  http://radioparadise.com/downloads/RP2.apk (download on your phone, then tap to run it).
 
The old version can coexist with the current one (though the icons are very similar, so that can be a bit confusing). 

 BillG wrote: 
Version 4.0.3
 

 tgallag wrote: 
What Android version is your tablet running?

 tgallag wrote: 
I've the same problème than you with my asus tablet for a couple of months do you fond à solution ?
N'est regards 
Marc
 

Cache works fine on my android phone but on my samsung android tablet it just fast forwards from one song title to the next without playing anything.  Any suggestions are appreciated.

 gotallie wrote: 
I get your point. We'll see what we can do.   In the meantime, you can turn WiFi off on your phone while away from home/office.  It's probably not good to leave it set to connect to random public networks, anyway — and you'll save a lot of battery juice.

 BillG wrote: 







Uh, that's crazy. If you just spent a fair amount of time filling the cache and were out and about enjoying the cache feed, and then passed by a wifi connection for say... just long enough for the RP app to reconnect and dump the cache and then went out of range again; imagine one's surprise and disappointment at the silence that would soon follow.



That explains why when I pick up my android phone there is nothing in the cache for me to listen to even though I just filled it.

Here I thought that it was a bug, but it is a feature.

 SeriousLee wrote: 
I'm replying here to my own message because of something i said that was incorrect, although i just didn't realize it at the time of course. I'll get to that in a bit.

I've been 'testing' the cache because of a couple issues i had. As i mentioned previously, i just got my smartphone not too long ago and i've been trying out the RP app the last few weeks. I had been using the RP app on my iPod Touch, but that app is shot. So i'm an Android newbie. I'm playing around with a new toy. One odd thing i did find with the RP cache is that after filling up to 12 hrs last evening, this morning when i hit play it did get the current network stream but when i looked at the cache it dropped from 12 hrs to around 4 hrs. Not a biggie though, as i can just tap on "Fill and Refresh Cache" if i want to empty the cache.

The thing i said that was wrong was i assumed when i was getting a list of song titles parading it was because the RP app cleared the cache. It wasn't the RP app clearing the cache, it was the DU Speed Booster app i run now and then to clear the cobwebs. When i tell DU to take out the trash, it clears the RP cache. When that happens, that's when i get the song titles parading. I had 12 hrs of cache and it took a good 10 minutes to go through all the song titles before i could hear some music. But i can disable the RP cache when i run DU, so when it takes out the trash it will ignore it. But it would be nice to fix that glitch anyways, i mean have the RP app check the cache before attempting playing each song one at a time as that is what it appears to be doing.

Cheers.

Addendum: When i say it took 10 minutes to go through the song titles before i could hear some music, i mean that would happen if i'm in a wi-fi nest. If i'm outside, the listing of song titles would just stop, as i never play RP on my data plan.

 SeriousLee wrote: 
What I did was set the cache to minimum until I was ready to leave. Then change the cache to 12 hours or less and fill the cache. The filling seems to take only a short amount of time with a good wifi connection (I will get back to you about how much time it takes). Once it is filled, you can continue to play while going from the wifi area to an area without wifi (I do this when I leave) and back again. I believe that you can turn it off and then back on and it will start where you left off (if not in a wifi area).

 BillG wrote: 
But it would be nice if when it dumps the cache, it doesn't parade through a long list of song titles before we can hear music. That has been my experience so far.

If i understand you correctly, i should be able to fill up the cache tonight and wait until i get to work tomorrow where i have no wifi cnx and have "use cell data" disabled , it should play from the filled-up cache?

I'll fill it up tonight and not play RP until i'm out of WI-FI range with 'use cell data' disabled and see how it goes.

Thanks Bill.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
Fair enough. I like it better that way anyways, staying in sync with the live stream.

Thanks Scott.

I am still experimenting with the cache but it seems that you do need to fill the cache before you leave the wifi area (I have run out of cache because I didn't know that I had to refresh and refill). I have tried to figure out if it plays in sync or past songs and have found that for the most part, it plays in sync (although this does not seem to be always true). Today, it was completely out of sync while connected to the wifi but as soon as I pressed the refresh and fill the cache, it was in sync again. Oddly enough, I was trying to find the name of the song playing on my phone earlier (without looking at the phone) by opening the play list. It did not seem to be any of the songs on the list so I checked the phone to find the name. I then checked the history and could not find the song (even looking at several days past). I thought that the song was from a cache that didn't get cleared but as I was writing this post, the song came on (in sync) so the cache must sometimes get hours out of sync (in the future). That is very interesting and good to know. The reason this is important for me is that when I ride the motorcycle, I can't look at the phone to see what the name of the song is so I generally check the time that it is playing and then look at the play list. Using the cache is great and I am learning a great deal. Originally, I assumed it ripped the stream and I would be listening to the music from the previous 12 hours. Now I know that the cache is the future music and that the best way is to refill the cache right before leaving (it does take a little while to get the cache filled for those that lose the cache when they leave the wifi connection). The cache amount shown is not updated automatically so you will need to hit the refresh, go back to the main page then look again after a few minutes to see how much time is actually in the cache. I would also guess that it would be a good idea to keep the cache on minimum until it is needed, then change the length of time and refresh (again you will need to wait a while for the cache to fill). This may keep things more in sync over longer periods of time.

Lastly, I really want to thank Bill and Radio Paradise for exposing me to a lot of different kinds of music that I would never have known existed. I have been listening for over 10 years now and I have found so many fantastic and wonderful musicians and songs.

Thank you so much!! 

 BillG wrote: 
Thanks all.

Fair enough. 

So I think I've been loosing the data because I re obtain WiFi access again here and there.  Except that I'm losing the cache even though I exit out of RP.  This implies that part of RP stays loaded in memory even after I exit.

Ok,  I'll try to see if I can remember to fill the cache just before my commutes.  I'll have to remember to do this twice a day before commuting from home and work (predicted to not happen). 

I'm sensitive to sound quality and so far this is the best sounding digital stream that I've found, and the song selection is great.

Perhaps another solution for me (for commuting) would be to fill in the morning and then briskly turn off WiFi on my phone.  That way I only have to remember to fill the cache once per day.

Thanks again,
Charlie

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
The current behavior of the app is that it will play in sync with RP as long as it has a network connection. If you're offline totally, or if you have 'use cell data' disabled & you're not on WiFi, then it will resume playing from where it left off.  Then, as soon as it gets a data connection again, it will dump the cache & resume playing in real time.

 SeriousLee wrote: 
Again, my disclaimer: I don't use this feature, I've only read about it here.

The cache stores the next 12 hours of RP. If you fill the cache, then wait 12 hours before you attempt to play it back, there will be nothing left in the cache. This scheme attempts to stay in sync with the live stream. The scenario would be:

• Listen to RP normally
• Just before leaving your usual wifi connection, fill the cache
• Move out of wifi range, the player starts drawing music from the cache with little interruption in the music.
• Listen off-network for up to 12 hours, hearing the same songs at the same instant as ScottFromWyoming hears them.
• Arrive back at some wifi hotspot and resume live streaming with little interruption in the music.
• Before leaving that wifi, refill cache
• repeat

 charliemb wrote:
  I've been hanging around here to see if others were having problems with the cache on Android devices. Not sure if the problem i have is exactly the same as above, but the only way i can get the cache to work properly is to "fill and refresh cache" first thing in the morning and let RP play until i'm out of range from my wi-fi nest as i drive away. At that point i can stop the music and restart it successfully later at work, where i have no wi-fi cnx.

One weird problem i have encountered on more than one occasion is this: i fill up the cache of 12 hours the night before, but when i hit the PLAY button in the morning, a list of song titles parades through endlessly for at least a few minutes and then when i finally hear some music, the cache is empty. I have two wi-fi channels set up on my router plus a third one through a wi-fi extender. I suspect the problem may be with filling up the cache through one wi-fi channel the night before but in the morning when i hit play the smartphone is connected to a different channel. But that is just speculation, as i've only had my Android Smartphone for a few weeks. Galaxy S5.

But hey, it's awesome to hear Bill's voice when i'm in the car. :-)

 BillG wrote: 
Hi

I'm new to RP, like what I hear so far, and I'm trying to get into it but I'm having a problem.  Somehow I'm losing the entire contents of the cache most of the time.  I leave the house thinking that I have an hour queued up and then it turns out that I don't.

The use that I envision for RP is to load up the cache and have enough for my commutes  to and from work.   I have unchecked  the option labeled "Cell Data" and have my wifi quality settings for 192 and wifi cache for 1 hour.   At some point, when I remember (which is in itself a problem), I go into settings and check "fill and refresh cache."    At that point I think I'm good to go for my next commute.

However, in exactly 3 out of 5 times I've tried this, I've lost the entire contents of the cache.   This is not working for me at all.

Are there specific conditions or instructions that I must adhere to to make this work?

I don't even see a pattern to the failure.  Today,  I confirmed that I was able to play from the cache well after leaving my house by playing RP for a few seconds while I was out waiting in a voting line.  The cache showed 53 minutes.   I then returned home (which enters wifi again) and left again after about 10 minutes.  The second time I left I left in a different car.  I had closed RP (android app 3.0.13) and so it was not running.   After driving off, RP started playing even though I had closed it and it only played for about 30 seconds and stopped.   I then checked the cache and it showed 0 hrs and 0 min — empty.   ?????

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

Charlie

 alkemyst wrote: 
In the settings, un-check the option labeled "Cell Data".  If that is disabled (unchecked), the app will only cache ahead using WiFi.