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islander

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 5:21pm



 kurtster wrote:

Just applying the same standards you judge me with to you.
 

Oh, I see the game you're on: Absurd statement not related to converstion.

Well then, You like orange marmalade on pizza.  You're a savage. 
kurtster

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 4:11pm

 islander wrote:


Reading comprehension assist:  That is not what was said (in any way shape or form).  
 
Just applying the same standards you judge me with to you.
rgio

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 3:13pm



 R_P wrote:
 cultster highlighted:
In fact, the system was found to be “intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.”

Looks like you're still promoting the idea that Trump (should have) won.

And it's connected to your kooky star lawyer.
 
See...the MSM won't even talk about it!  Deep state covering it up!  You got what you wanted, and don't care about the truth.  You're all brainwashed. (/sarcasm)

This will end up with all of the other BS "documented" cases of fraud, but nobody will care because there will be another conspiracy exposed before then.  It's exhausting.
islander

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 3:12pm



 kurtster wrote:

Yep, you got what you wanted.  You don't care if it was a fraudulent result. 

Don't rock the boat.  No need for any further investigations.
 

Reading comprehension assist:  That is not what was said (in any way shape or form).  I simply suggested that it's especially Ironic/hypocritical for you & yours to be saying "it shouldn't be so hard to get transparency" and "if you've got nothing to hide, why all the secrecy".  

I'm all for any legitimate inquiry. So far you are 1 out of several hundred attempts to show any legal basis for a claim, and the one had so little consequence that it didn't matter.
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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 2:53pm

 cultster highlighted:
In fact, the system was found to be “intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.”

Looks like you're still promoting the idea that Trump (should have) won.

And it's connected to your kooky star lawyer.
kurtster

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 2:49pm

 islander wrote:


From the side that is still arguing to cover up Trump's taxes, this is especially rich. 
 
Yep, you got what you wanted.  You don't care if it was a fraudulent result. 

Don't rock the boat.  No need for any further investigations.
islander

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 2:44pm



 kurtster wrote:



Come on, now. Why the need to go to court to obtain access to data and information that should already be transparent and public?

After all, as the saying goes, if there’s nothing to hide, why hide?


 

From the side that is still arguing to cover up Trump's taxes, this is especially rich. 
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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 2:40pm

Forensic auditors find shocking 68% error rate in one Michigan county's votes

In an “Antrim Michigan Forensics Report” dated Dec. 13, the personnel of Allied Security Operations Group — a team of defense, military, Secret Service and intelligence professionals, led in part by an academic from Harvard with expertise in business and technology — found this: the Dominion Voting System in place in Antrim County, Michigan, for the 2020 election hardly passed the smell test. It recorded a 68% error rate. Oops.

Big oops.

In fact, the system was found to be “intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.”

How so?

Here’s how: “The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud,” the report stated.

The report authors say Antrim County votes should not have been certified.

The report authors said they “observed an error rate of 68.05%” with ballot counts — a “significant and fatal error in security and election integrity” that far surpasses the “allowable election error rate” of 0.0008%, or one-in-250,000 ballots, that’s been established by the Federal Election Commission.

What’s interesting, too, is that state and county officials didn’t want to release information on Antrim County’s voting equipment for analysts’ review.

A judge had to order its release.

From the Detroit Free Press: “Judge Kevin Elsenheimer of the 13th Circuit Court had ordered ‘forensic imaging’ of the Dominion Voting Systems voting tabulators and related software after Antrim County resident William Bailey filed a lawsuit that challenged the integrity of the election equipment, citing errors in how the county initially reported its unofficial results.”

Come on, now. Why the need to go to court to obtain access to data and information that should already be transparent and public?

After all, as the saying goes, if there’s nothing to hide, why hide?

This latest forensics’ report probably won’t help Trump maintain his White House seat for another four years. And it’s not even certain that it should; after all, this is one county, one small county. It can’t be logically argued that the forensic findings of a 68% error rate in this one county automatically apply to all counties where the same voting software was used.

But it does raise red flags.

It does make the questions persist.

And once again, America’s back where America started with all this election challenge and curious late-election-night vote flipping: wondering if America’s election systems are honest.

Wondering if the next election will bring more of the same election questions and concerns about “errors.”

Banana republic, hear thy roar.

VV

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 1:25pm



 buddy wrote:


 VV wrote:


 buddy wrote:


 VV wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Assuming he does become 46 ...

What will be the second thing Biden does as POTUS ?

Pardon his family.  That will be after the first thing he does, which will be to pardon himself.
 

Yawn... predictable projection at its finest.
 
He's just a sad, pathetic man. He emulates the behavior of his hero....he's always right, everyone is out to get him, he's the victim, he's going to make sure everyone feels his pain, he provokes just to get a reaction, etc.  Been that way forever, will not change.  Ignoring him is the best option available in a place with no Block option. Works for me, anyway. 

 
Yea, but it begs the question who is more ignorant... Trump... or his seemingly "intelligent" followers who can see what's happening but would rather believe in Trump's or their own lies? 
 
I would say it is probably the second hence the elevated frustration always bubbling at the surface.


 

In your scenario, Trump is the smart one as he milks his followers for money in the name of his 'election defense' which actually is going into his legal fund to fight all the lawsuits waiting for him to leave office.
 
I don't think I would ever term Trump as "smart" as there are too many things he has done or failed to do that would nullify that.
 
I think you can be ignorant and still be duplicitous enough to "play" your base. If being duplicitous means having a certain level of "smarts" then I guess I will grant him the bare minimum. 



steeler

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 1:03pm

This just in: Trump is winning in the in flagrante delicto college!
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 11:08am

 R_P wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
Hey, is today the day, we get to take out the trash? It's starting to smell iffy.

One man's trash is another man's treasure... 
 
Hard to imagine, but I guess so.  

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 11:05am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
Hey, is today the day, we get to take out the trash? It's starting to smell iffy.

One man's trash is another man's treasure... 
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 11:01am

 miamizsun wrote:


here?

it is out with the old and in with the new...
 
{#Mrgreen}  which is why periodic change is a good thing. They come every two weeks around here.
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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 11:00am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
Hey, is today the day, we get to take out the trash? It's starting to smell iffy. 
 

here?

it is out with the old and in with the new...
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 10:56am

Hey, is today the day, we get to take out the trash? It's starting to smell iffy.

 
steeler

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 10:41am



 buddy wrote:
So let's get this whole election conspiracy right.....

Biden, the Democrats, the FBI, CIA, China, and the cast of Perry Mason 2020 all colluded to steal the Presidential election from Trump.

However, they decided to have the Democrats lose seats in the House and to not win the Senate as, what....some kind of cover for stealing the election.

Every court up to and included the US Supreme Court have rejected  Trump's lawsuits of election fraud, so they are all in on the conspiracy, too.

Okay, got it now.  I'm sure today's Electoral College results will turn the tide & there will be 4 more years of Trump.  Yep, that's it for sure.
 

Another “huh” point: Florida always was considered a swing state — perhaps THE swing state. And it was subject to intense focus of both campaigns in the final weeks. So why did “they” not rig the outcome in that state for Biden?
VV

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 10:11am



 buddy wrote:


 VV wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Assuming he does become 46 ...

What will be the second thing Biden does as POTUS ?

Pardon his family.  That will be after the first thing he does, which will be to pardon himself.
 

Yawn... predictable projection at its finest.
 
He's just a sad, pathetic man. He emulates the behavior of his hero....he's always right, everyone is out to get him, he's the victim, he's going to make sure everyone feels his pain, he provokes just to get a reaction, etc.  Been that way forever, will not change.  Ignoring him is the best option available in a place with no Block option. Works for me, anyway. 

 
Yea, but it begs the question who is more ignorant... Trump... or his seemingly "intelligent" followers who can see what's happening but would rather believe in Trump's or their own lies? 
 
I would say it is probably the second hence the elevated frustration always bubbling at the surface.


VV

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 9:53am



 kurtster wrote:

Assuming he does become 46 ...

What will be the second thing Biden does as POTUS ?

Pardon his family.  That will be after the first thing he does, which will be to pardon himself.
 

Yawn... predictable projection at its finest.
R_P

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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 9:44am

Trump Allies Eye Long-Shot Election Reversal in Congress, Testing Pence
Some House Republicans plan to try to use Congress’s tallying of electoral results on Jan. 6 to tip the election to President Trump. The attempt will put Republicans in a pinch.
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Posted: Dec 14, 2020 - 9:35am

 KarmaKarma wrote:
Today is going to be a bad, bad, very bad day for those who believe Biden actually won the election.

News is breaking all over the place, though maybe not on the sources many choose to follow.

Also, funny how CNN et all are now actually covering the Hunter Biden scandal, innit?
 
Assuming he does become 46 ...

What will be the second thing Biden does as POTUS ?

Pardon his family.  That will be after the first thing he does, which will be to pardon himself.
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