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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 4:10pm

 VV wrote:
  Besides I not sure how you can worry who will be governing their world (since that is out of your hands) but I'll take a wild guess that it will either be a Republican or a Democrat occupying the White House.
 
Clearly you think small.  I was more thinking about China and to a lesser extent, Russia.
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I would say that what is happening in the here and now is the biggest problem we face.  Those threatening civilization right now as we know it do not give a rat's ass about global warming in case you haven't noticed. 
...
Clearly my priorities are much different than yours.  
 
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 4:04pm

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Additionally, you would like to pretend there isn't a problem and even if there is... some as yet unidentified magic technology will spring up to tackle it?

"Like a miracle, it will disappear."

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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 4:02pm

 kurtster wrote:

Personally, I think that it is a luxury to think that global warming is the biggest problem we face. 

I would say that what is happening in the here and now is the biggest problem we face.  Those threatening civilization right now as we know it do not give a rat's ass about global warming in case you haven't noticed.  If you don't mind living in their world on their terms, then go right ahead with your thinking as to what is the biggest problem we face.  Then you will surely be doomed to the ravages of global warming sooner rather than later.

And you guess wrong about not having any descendants.  I am more worried about who will be governing their world than anything else.

I am of the opinion and considered thought that :

A)  The changing climate has more to do with natural cycles and events than man made ones.

B)  That new technology is always on the horizon that will actually do something to really mitigate the affects of most man made contributions to the changing climate without harming or lowering our standard of living.  But that will only happen in a free world in an open society.

Clearly my priorities are much different than yours.  

Ok, I didn't say let's only focus on Global Warming and ignore everything else. But Global Warming should always remain a high long-term priority as it clearly has not been for a long time now. 

Clearly your head is deep in the sand on this topic and you must also be a climate science denier since your first point has been debunked by science/scientists. Additionally, you would like to pretend there isn't a problem and even if there is... some as yet unidentified magic technology will spring up to tackle it? 
 
I guess I'm glad I won't be around for the world you are envisioning and hope to God for my kids and grandkids that it isn't your vision that comes to pass. There isn't much point in worrying about who will be governing your descendants world when the physical state of the world is in crisis mode. Besides I not sure how you can worry who will be governing their world (since that is out of your hands) but I'll take a wild guess that it will either be a Republican or a Democrat occupying the White House.


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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 3:59pm

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And you are a hypocrite with your unabashed support of the biggest contributor in the world, the CCP.

Muh Chinese Hoax!
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 3:56pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
I am of the opinion and considered thought that still a denier.
 
And you are a hypocrite with your unabashed support of the biggest contributor in the world, the CCP.
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 3:52pm

 kurtster wrote:
I am of the opinion and considered thought that still a denier.

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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 2:57pm

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Anyone who doesn't believe global warming isn't the biggest problem we face is simply uninformed or willfully ignorant. 
I'm guessing you probably don't have any kids or grandchildren where the thought of the state of the physical world they will be left to live in really matters to you. 
 
Personally, I think that it is a luxury to think that global warming is the biggest problem we face. 

I would say that what is happening in the here and now is the biggest problem we face.  Those threatening civilization right now as we know it do not give a rat's ass about global warming in case you haven't noticed.  If you don't mind living in their world on their terms, then go right ahead with your thinking as to what is the biggest problem we face.  Then you will surely be doomed to the ravages of global warming sooner rather than later.

And you guess wrong about not having any descendants.  I am more worried about who will be governing their world than anything else.

I am of the opinion and considered thought that :

A)  The changing climate has more to do with natural cycles and events than man made ones.

B)  That new technology is always on the horizon that will actually do something to really mitigate the affects of most man made contributions to the changing climate without harming or lowering our standard of living.  But that will only happen in a free world in an open society.

Clearly my priorities are much different than yours.  
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 1:44pm

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So all you kids think inflation is not a real problem ?  Climate change is the biggest problem we face ?

I was 20 or so when Nixon imposed wage and price freezes because inflation was getting so out of hand.  Just so y'all know, it did not work.  Just made things worse.  How about those double digit mortgage rates ?   It took until the late 80's to early 90's to get it under control. Here we are in February 2022 and the Fed is going to start raising interest rates. Too late as usual, but regardless, many apple carts are still going to be upset rather quickly. 

A house of cards we are.

Anyone who doesn't believe global warming isn't the biggest problem we face is simply uninformed or willfully ignorant. Economic cycles come and go but unfortunately we only have one Earth and we (collectively) haven't been very good stewards of it. 
 
This can has been kicked down the road many times but at what point is it supposed to be dealt with? 5 years from now, 10?... or better yet... let's keep our heads in the sand and continue ignoring it altogether.

The easy and lazy way out has been to defer action on because you and I and others of a certain age know we will be well into the ground before it would probably significantly impact us unless we happen to be living on the coast somewhere where glacial melt water level rise would displace us. It's the "not my problem let someone else deal with it" approach. Unfortunately the world can't wait until the situation becomes too dire because waiting that long means that we have long passed the point-of-no-return and there is no course-correction to be made then.

I'm guessing you probably don't have any kids or grandchildren where the thought of the state of the physical world they will be left to live in really matters to you. 


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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 1:35pm

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Zero Hedge is the source for this? 




Or counterpunch https://www.counterpunch.org/2...
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 12:45pm

 Animal-Farm wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...

Escobar: Follow The Money - How Russia Will Bypass Western Economic Warfare

So what does the “Empire of Lies” want? (Putin terminology, on Monday’s meeting in Moscow to discuss the response to sanctions.)

In an essay published this morning, deliciously titled America Defeats Germany for the Third Time in a Century: the MIC, OGAM and FIRE conquer NATO, Michael Hudson makes a series of crucial points, starting with how “NATO has become Europe’s foreign policy-making body, even to the point of dominating domestic economic interests.”

He outlines the three oligarchies in control of US foreign policy:

  • First is the military-industrial complex, which Ray McGovern memorably coined as MICIMATT (military industrial Congressional intelligence media academia think tank). Hudson defines their economy base as “monopoly rent, obtained above all from its arms sales to NATO, to West Asian oil exporters and to other countries with a balance-of-payments surplus.”
  • Second is the oil and gas sector, joined by mining (OGAM). Their aim is “to maximize the price of energy and raw materials so as to maximize natural resource rent. Monopolizing the Dollar Area’s oil market and isolating it from Russian oil and gas has been a major US priority for over a year now, as the Nord Stream 2 pipeline from Russia to Germany threatened to link the western European and Russian economies together.”
  • Third is the “symbiotic” Finance, Insurance and Real Estate (FIRE) sector, which Hudson defines as “the counterpart to Europe’s old post-feudal landed aristocracy living by land rents.”

As he describes these three rentier sectors that completely dominate post-industrial finance capitalism at the heart of the western system, Hudson notes how “Wall Street always has been closely merged with the oil and gas industry (namely, the Citigroup and Chase Manhattan banking conglomerates).”

Hudson shows how “the most pressing US strategic aim of NATO confrontation with Russia is soaring oil and gas prices. In addition to creating profits and stock market gains for US companies, higher energy prices will take much of the steam out of the German economy.”

He warns how food prices will rise “headed by wheat.” (Russia and Ukraine account for 25 percent of world wheat exports.) From a Global South perspective, that’s a disaster: “This will squeeze many West Asian and Global South food-deficient countries, worsening their balance of payments and threatening foreign debt defaults.”




Zero Hedge is the source for this? 

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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 11:28am

 Animal-Farm wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...

Escobar: Follow The Money - How Russia Will Bypass Western Economic Warfare

 

He warns how food prices will rise “headed by wheat.” (Russia and Ukraine account for 25 percent of world wheat exports.) From a Global South perspective, that’s a disaster: “This will squeeze many West Asian and Global South food-deficient countries,

worsening their balance of payments and threatening foreign debt defaults.”


 
aka, The International House of Cards ...  IHOC ...
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 8:39am

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...

Escobar: Follow The Money - How Russia Will Bypass Western Economic Warfare

So what does the “Empire of Lies” want? (Putin terminology, on Monday’s meeting in Moscow to discuss the response to sanctions.)

In an essay published this morning, deliciously titled America Defeats Germany for the Third Time in a Century: the MIC, OGAM and FIRE conquer NATO, Michael Hudson makes a series of crucial points, starting with how “NATO has become Europe’s foreign policy-making body, even to the point of dominating domestic economic interests.”

He outlines the three oligarchies in control of US foreign policy:

  • First is the military-industrial complex, which Ray McGovern memorably coined as MICIMATT (military industrial Congressional intelligence media academia think tank). Hudson defines their economy base as “monopoly rent, obtained above all from its arms sales to NATO, to West Asian oil exporters and to other countries with a balance-of-payments surplus.”
  • Second is the oil and gas sector, joined by mining (OGAM). Their aim is “to maximize the price of energy and raw materials so as to maximize natural resource rent. Monopolizing the Dollar Area’s oil market and isolating it from Russian oil and gas has been a major US priority for over a year now, as the Nord Stream 2 pipeline from Russia to Germany threatened to link the western European and Russian economies together.”
  • Third is the “symbiotic” Finance, Insurance and Real Estate (FIRE) sector, which Hudson defines as “the counterpart to Europe’s old post-feudal landed aristocracy living by land rents.”

As he describes these three rentier sectors that completely dominate post-industrial finance capitalism at the heart of the western system, Hudson notes how “Wall Street always has been closely merged with the oil and gas industry (namely, the Citigroup and Chase Manhattan banking conglomerates).”

Hudson shows how “the most pressing US strategic aim of NATO confrontation with Russia is soaring oil and gas prices. In addition to creating profits and stock market gains for US companies, higher energy prices will take much of the steam out of the German economy.”

He warns how food prices will rise “headed by wheat.” (Russia and Ukraine account for 25 percent of world wheat exports.) From a Global South perspective, that’s a disaster: “This will squeeze many West Asian and Global South food-deficient countries, worsening their balance of payments and threatening foreign debt defaults.”



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Posted: Mar 1, 2022 - 2:16pm

Can the West Stop Russia by Strangling Its Economy? *
The economic historian Adam Tooze explains how the invasion of Ukraine is inciting war in the financial markets.
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Posted: Feb 14, 2022 - 6:27pm

China ended up buying none of that extra $200 billion of US exports it had promised to purchase. (In Davos, only a week after it was signed, Trump boasted that the deal "could be closer to $300 billion when it finishes.") In 2020–21, China fell $13.6 billion short of reaching even the baseline level of purchases.

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Posted: Feb 14, 2022 - 3:07am

So all you kids think inflation is not a real problem ?  Climate change is the biggest problem we face ?

I was 20 or so when Nixon imposed wage and price freezes because inflation was getting so out of hand.  Just so y'all know, it did not work.  Just made things worse.  How about those double digit mortgage rates ?   It took until the late 80's to early 90's to get it under control. Here we are in February 2022 and the Fed is going to start raising interest rates. Too late as usual, but regardless, many apple carts are still going to be upset rather quickly. 

A house of cards we are.
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Posted: Dec 20, 2021 - 6:32pm

Afraid of alternate currencies? They're already here. And they work beautifully.

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Posted: Nov 2, 2021 - 2:08pm

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The funny thing about restaurants is that the customers rarely acknowledge that they're really not just paying for the food, but everything good about dining out. This might be a good system for providing quick and easy food choices but it won't supplant the experience of a restaurant and —just as with food trucks— people will balk at paying sit-down restaurant prices for anything on a paper plate.

flippy!

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Posted: Nov 2, 2021 - 1:15pm

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Until you build a resupply robot, they'll be feeding & cleaning the machines.

Yes...several of them.
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Posted: Nov 2, 2021 - 12:30pm

Not sure about a Michelin star joint, where you expect the human experience...but for chains, automation is only increasing.

The New York Times had a story the other day about how there is "a growing number of restaurant and hotel owners who are turning to robotics during this labor shortage. Robots don’t call in sick, don’t request raises and do jobs, like frying and cleaning, that workers don’t like.

"Indeed, many robotics companies, like Miso Robotics, Bear Robotics, Peanut Robotics, Knightscope, SoftBank Robotics and Makr Shakr, say they’ve seen huge spikes in inquiries for their robots since the pandemic hit."

And the Boston Globe had a piece morning about Sweetgreen's $50 million acquisition of Spyce, the Boston restaurant startup that uses automation to prepare meals. Sweetgreen's goal is "to integrate the Spyce’s technology in its restaurants so that it can 'serve its food with even better quality, consistency and efficiency'."


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Posted: Nov 2, 2021 - 12:00pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

For people whose labor has very little value it means they don't get to work. At all.


Until you build a resupply robot, they'll be feeding & cleaning the machines.
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