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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 12:49pm

not exactly sure what's happening but i think a theater (with people) was shelled
working and can't watch the tube, but i saw something in a news feed
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 12:43pm

 Animal-Farm wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Nice to see you posting something in favour of government intervention to manage Covid for a change.
Lol it's amazing how everything has overt or subliminal messages, everything is propaganda it was linked to by naked capitalism which is really into masks they feel the virus is from aerosols not droplets and so they think everybody should wear masks forever and they literally tweak the many articles that they link to if it's in favor of that anything about masks.
 
tbh, I don't really care what you think - as long as you think.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 12:22pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Nice to see you posting something in favour of government intervention to manage Covid for a change.


Lol it's amazing how everything has overt or subliminal messages, everything is propaganda

it was linked to by naked capitalism which is really into masks they feel the virus is from aerosols not droplets and so they think everybody should wear masks forever and they literally tweak the many articles that they link to if it's in favor of that anything about masks.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 11:54am

 Animal-Farm wrote:

The Superpower Of Admitting the Obvious

MARCH 15, 2022

It really is weird to have the “superpower” of being able to see the obvious.

 
Nice to see you posting something in favour of government intervention to manage Covid for a change.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 11:41am

The Superpower Of Admitting the Obvious

MARCH 15, 2022

It really is weird to have the “superpower” of being able to see the obvious.


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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 11:09am

 R_P wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

“If the West thinks that Russia will step back, it does not understand Russia,” Putin said on the 21st day of Russia’s brutal and bloody war on Ukraine.

Putin also claimed that keeping Russia in check was a long-term policy of the West, and that its economic sanctions against Russia were “short-sighted”, Reuters reported.

He added that Western countries wanted to hit every Russian family with the sanctions, and accused them of engaging in an unprecedented information campaign against Russia.

Putin said Russia was ready to discuss Ukraine’s neutral status in talks aimed at ending hostilities there, but that Moscow would still achieve the goals of its military operation, which was “going to plan”.

He also said the West had effectively declared Russia in “default” as part of its sanctions over the war in Ukraine, and that the conflict had merely been a pretext for the West to impose sanctions.

“The West doesn’t even bother to hide the fact that its aim is to damage the entire Russian economy, every Russian,” he said.

Putin's problem is that he views western rejection of his autocratic repressive government style as being the same thing as rejection of his country. He can't separate the two.  Massively patriotic and massively flawed all at the same time.

Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean you're wrong.
 
Wir sind das Volk.. that's what he is most afraid of, not NATO. And yes, he's right to be paranoid.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 10:48am

 kurtster wrote:
Another fallout from Ukraine is the apparent revelation that Xi has evidently put off his planned invasion of Taiwan for this fall as a result of all the international economic fussing going on and its potential implications for China should he do the deed.  Putin may be screwing Ukraine, but he has temporarily saved Taiwan, for now.

Xi is coming under more and more pressure at home.  His very tight control over technology firms has many thinking that he is throttling growth and risking the prosperity of billions.   The Hong Kong mess isn't supported by most.  The COVID lockdowns right now could extend the supply chain issues, and drive even more out of the country.   I think you're right about the economics....Xi probably assumed the world didn't have the stomach for some of the sanctions imposed, especially following COVID.  He can see an end to Putin from this, and is much less secure in his position than he was a month ago.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 10:44am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

“If the West thinks that Russia will step back, it does not understand Russia,” Putin said on the 21st day of Russia’s brutal and bloody war on Ukraine.

Putin also claimed that keeping Russia in check was a long-term policy of the West, and that its economic sanctions against Russia were “short-sighted”, Reuters reported.

He added that Western countries wanted to hit every Russian family with the sanctions, and accused them of engaging in an unprecedented information campaign against Russia.

Putin said Russia was ready to discuss Ukraine’s neutral status in talks aimed at ending hostilities there, but that Moscow would still achieve the goals of its military operation, which was “going to plan”.

He also said the West had effectively declared Russia in “default” as part of its sanctions over the war in Ukraine, and that the conflict had merely been a pretext for the West to impose sanctions.

“The West doesn’t even bother to hide the fact that its aim is to damage the entire Russian economy, every Russian,” he said.

Putin's problem is that he views western rejection of his autocratic repressive government style as being the same thing as rejection of his country. He can't separate the two.  Massively patriotic and massively flawed all at the same time.

Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean you're wrong.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 10:28am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
Translation of the article:

The full-blown war in Ukraine ...

 
An interesting perspective.  Took awhile to get through and I will likely reread it for further digestion.

Interesting to call NATO's expansion an act of imperialism.  Hard for me to call voluntary geopolitical reorganizing a form of imperialism.  That would in kind make the UN an imperialistic organization, no ?

Another fallout from Ukraine is the apparent revelation that Xi has evidently put off his planned invasion of Taiwan for this fall as a result of all the international economic fussing going on and its potential implications for China should he do the deed.  Putin may be screwing Ukraine, but he has temporarily saved Taiwan, for now.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 9:54am

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Pfft. He knows very well he's cynically hiding behind the skirts of Mother Russia.




One of my very favoritest quotes: "The Delta House has a long tradition of existence to its members..."



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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 8:28am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
Putin's problem is that he views western rejection of his autocratic repressive government style as being the same thing as rejection of his country. He can't separate the two.  Massively patriotic and massively flawed all at the same time.

Pfft. He knows very well he's cynically hiding behind the skirts of Mother Russia.
 
Lord, I hope so. Otherwise I'm not so sure he's entirely sane anymore.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 8:14am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
Putin's problem is that he views western rejection of his autocratic repressive government style as being the same thing as rejection of his country. He can't separate the two.  Massively patriotic and massively flawed all at the same time.

Pfft. He knows very well he's cynically hiding behind the skirts of Mother Russia.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 8:07am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:



“If the West thinks that Russia will step back, it does not understand Russia,” Putin said on the 21st day of Russia’s brutal and bloody war on Ukraine.

Putin also claimed that keeping Russia in check was a long-term policy of the West, and that its economic sanctions against Russia were “short-sighted”, Reuters reported.

He added that Western countries wanted to hit every Russian family with the sanctions, and accused them of engaging in an unprecedented information campaign against Russia.

Putin said Russia was ready to discuss Ukraine’s neutral status in talks aimed at ending hostilities there, but that Moscow would still achieve the goals of its military operation, which was “going to plan”.

He also said the West had effectively declared Russia in “default” as part of its sanctions over the war in Ukraine, and that the conflict had merely been a pretext for the West to impose sanctions.

“The West doesn’t even bother to hide the fact that its aim is to damage the entire Russian economy, every Russian,” he said.

Putin's problem is that he views western rejection of his autocratic repressive government style as being the same thing as rejection of his country. He can't separate the two.  Massively patriotic and massively flawed all at the same time.


Not trying to be funny with something so dire, 
but kinda like arguing with a trumpster.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 7:50am



“If the West thinks that Russia will step back, it does not understand Russia,” Putin said on the 21st day of Russia’s brutal and bloody war on Ukraine.

Putin also claimed that keeping Russia in check was a long-term policy of the West, and that its economic sanctions against Russia were “short-sighted”, Reuters reported.

He added that Western countries wanted to hit every Russian family with the sanctions, and accused them of engaging in an unprecedented information campaign against Russia.

Putin said Russia was ready to discuss Ukraine’s neutral status in talks aimed at ending hostilities there, but that Moscow would still achieve the goals of its military operation, which was “going to plan”.

He also said the West had effectively declared Russia in “default” as part of its sanctions over the war in Ukraine, and that the conflict had merely been a pretext for the West to impose sanctions.

“The West doesn’t even bother to hide the fact that its aim is to damage the entire Russian economy, every Russian,” he said.

Putin's problem is that he views western rejection of his autocratic repressive government style as being the same thing as rejection of his country. He can't separate the two.  Massively patriotic and massively flawed all at the same time.
R_P

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Posted: Mar 15, 2022 - 11:58pm

 kurtster wrote:
Renting space in your head for free again !

It was beaker who cited it not me.  I cited another site, FWIW.

So what were the key words for the search to find that little nugget, oh industrious one with too much time on your hands ... ?

Sorry, not about you. Uhm, try gatestone.
kurtster

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Posted: Mar 15, 2022 - 11:31pm

 R_P wrote:
 Lazy8 wrote:
Up until now I had never heard of the Gatestone Institute. It has a...colorful wikipedia page. One more reason to despise John Bolton.

It had/has its cheerleaders.
 
Renting space in your head for free again !

It was beaker who cited it not me.  I cited another site, FWIW.

So what were the key words for the search to find that little nugget, oh industrious one with too much time on your hands ... ?
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Posted: Mar 15, 2022 - 12:53pm

Tass, a state publication, reported that Ms. Ovsyannikova was being
investigated for violating Russia’s new “false information”
law, which carries a sentence of up to 15 years in prison for anyone
convicted of disseminating news about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine that
goes against the Kremlin’s official narrative. Mr. Badamshin confirmed
that the investigation was underway.

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Posted: Mar 15, 2022 - 10:33am

 Lazy8 wrote:
Up until now I had never heard of the Gatestone Institute. It has a...colorful wikipedia page. One more reason to despise John Bolton.

It had/has its cheerleaders.
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Posted: Mar 15, 2022 - 10:25am

 Animal-Farm wrote:

Why Did Vladimir Putin Invade Ukraine?

BY TYLER DURDEN TUESDAY, MAR 15, 2022 - 02:00 AM

Authored by Soeren Kern via The Gatestone Institute,

Nearly three weeks have passed since Russian President Vladimir Putin began his invasion of Ukraine, but it still is not clear why he did so and what he hopes to achieve. Western analysts, commentators and government officials have put forward more than a dozen theories to explain Putin's actions, motives, and objectives.

Some analysts posit that Putin is motivated by a desire to rebuild the Russian Empire. Others say he is obsessed with bringing Ukraine back into Russia's sphere of influence. Some believe that Putin wants to control Ukraine's vast offshore energy resources. Still others speculate that Putin, an aging autocrat, is seeking to maintain his grip on power.

While some argue that Putin has a long-term proactive strategy aimed at establishing Russian primacy in Europe, others believe he is a short-term reactionary seeking to preserve what remains of Russia's diminishing position on the world stage.

Following is a compilation of eight differing but complementary theories that try to explain why Putin invaded Ukraine.


Up until now I had never heard of the Gatestone Institute. It has a...colorful wikipedia page. One more reason to despise John Bolton.

But really, "it still is not clear why he did so and what he hopes to achieve"? Really? He has said so many times. The article itself lays out those reasons. There isn't a lot of uncertainty here, just obfuscation.

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Posted: Mar 15, 2022 - 10:01am

NATO defense ministers are expected on Wednesday to agree to examine
more permanent and larger NATO deployments in countries of the eastern
flank near Ukraine and Russia. A decision will be made at the annual
NATO summit meeting at the end of June, the alliance’s secretary
general, Jens Stoltenberg, told a news conference on Tuesday.

As a member of the U.N. Security Council, “China should join the rest of
the world in condemning strongly the brutal invasion of Ukraine by
Russia,” said Jens Stoltenberg, the secretary general of NATO. “So we
call on China to clearly condemn the invasion and of course not support
Russia, and we are closely monitoring any signs of support from China to
Russia.”

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