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NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 13, 2022 - 10:06pm

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Make Russia hobbled by refusing them aid and who comes out on top in the "never get in a land war in Asia" scenario?


Pretty sure they want to keep Putin in power as they have him under control. A free democratic Russia is the last thing China wants on its northern border. But if they support him with arms, how will the RoW react? These are interesting times.

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Posted: Mar 13, 2022 - 9:30pm

Apparently the Russian military is running out of some supplies and has asked China. This will be the true turning point of this drama. Which way is China going to turn? They must be in a real quandry. Pissing off the rest of the world with almost certain implications for its trade or shoring up Putin and having him in their pocket. I bet they'll try to shore up Putin without pissing off the rest of the world, but how?

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Posted: Mar 13, 2022 - 8:46pm

Posted mostly because of the hashtag #tuckyorose

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Posted: Mar 13, 2022 - 5:42pm

 Red_Dragon wrote: Go Lindsey go!


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Posted: Mar 13, 2022 - 11:50am

Russia introduced a new mayor in a captured Ukrainian city after abducting its elected mayor


  • Russians put in place a new mayor in the Ukrainian city of Melitopol, CNN reported.
  • The city's democratically elected mayor, Ivan Fedorov, was kidnapped by Russian forces on Friday.
  • Galina Danilchenko, the city's acting mayor, was not elected.

Russia installed a new mayor in the Ukrainian city of Melitopol after soldiers kidnapped the city's democratically elected mayor.

The new mayor, Galina Danilchenko, was introduced as the city's acting mayor on local TV, CNN reported, citing a statement from the Zaporozhye regional administration website.

In a televised statement posted to Telegram, Danilchenkso said her "main task is to take all necessary steps to get the city back to normal," CNN reported. She said there are people in Melitopol who are trying to disrupt "the situation and provoke a reaction of bad behavior."


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Posted: Mar 12, 2022 - 7:04pm

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How about that? The departure of McDonald's might drive him over the edge?




The cold war worked. It just took a while.
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Posted: Mar 12, 2022 - 3:38pm

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It's ok to use them unless someone else has a bigger one (4x).

Alright girls, get out the measuring tape...

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Posted: Mar 12, 2022 - 3:32pm

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It's ok to use them, but only if you're a Liberal Democracy™ fighting evildoers.
 
It's ok to use them unless someone else has a bigger one (4x).
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Posted: Mar 12, 2022 - 2:40pm

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it seems clear that russia has been using thermobaric weapons on civilians

Also used in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan & Syria.

"Like other FAE using ethylene oxide, in the event of non-ignition, it functions as a chemical weapon, due to the highly toxic nature of this gas."

Thermobaric weapons are truly terrible, says the UK. But it also uses them.

It's ok to use them, but only if you're a Liberal Democracy™ fighting evildoers.

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Posted: Mar 12, 2022 - 2:25pm

Someone needs to kill Putin - now.
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Posted: Mar 12, 2022 - 8:01am

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i read something similar (obviously hard to verify)
hope those around him realize the damage he has done and the potential horrific scenario he could initiate
not sure how any sane person could support him or go along with launching a nuclear attack
also saw where it looks like he is advancing thermobaric weapons into the ukraine
if true this would be an unbelievably bad sign

peace


it seems clear that russia has been using thermobaric weapons on civilians

really good  explanation of the weapons and the challenges with treating people exposed


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Posted: Mar 12, 2022 - 7:03am

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{#Wink}
  sure. 

The final paragraphs of this piece are a bit sobering:

“According to people with knowledge of Mr Putin’s conversations with his aides over the past two years, the president has completely lost interest in the present,” Mikhail Zygar, a Russian journalist and author of All the Kremlin’s Men: Inside the Court of Vladimir Putin, wrote in the New York Times. “The economy, social issues, the coronavirus pandemic, these all annoy him … In his mind, Mr Putin finds himself in a unique historical situation in which he can finally recover from the previous years of humiliation.”

The failure to conquer Ukraine with the ease he had expected has added yet more humiliation, to which Putin shows every sign of responding with greater violence, with no end to the murderous cycle in sight. The departure of McDonald’s and all that represents looks destined to be just a speck in the avalanche brought on by Russia’s fall.

How about that? The departure of McDonald's might drive him over the edge?


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Posted: Mar 11, 2022 - 11:52pm

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 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
doesn't mean their intel is wrong. 

Doesn't mean their intel is right.
 
{#Wink}  sure. 

The final paragraphs of this piece are a bit sobering:

“According to people with knowledge of Mr Putin’s conversations with his aides over the past two years, the president has completely lost interest in the present,” Mikhail Zygar, a Russian journalist and author of All the Kremlin’s Men: Inside the Court of Vladimir Putin, wrote in the New York Times. “The economy, social issues, the coronavirus pandemic, these all annoy him … In his mind, Mr Putin finds himself in a unique historical situation in which he can finally recover from the previous years of humiliation.”

The failure to conquer Ukraine with the ease he had expected has added yet more humiliation, to which Putin shows every sign of responding with greater violence, with no end to the murderous cycle in sight. The departure of McDonald’s and all that represents looks destined to be just a speck in the avalanche brought on by Russia’s fall.

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Posted: Mar 11, 2022 - 11:47pm

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doesn't mean their intel is wrong. 

Doesn't mean their intel is right.
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Posted: Mar 11, 2022 - 11:42pm

 R_P wrote: 
doesn't mean their intel is wrong. 
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Posted: Mar 11, 2022 - 11:24pm

ISW = Institute for the Study of War
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Posted: Mar 11, 2022 - 10:07pm

New report from ISW

Russian president Vladimir Putin was reportedly conducting an internal purge of general officers and intelligence personnel, including by firing several generals and arresting FSB intelligence officers.

The ISW said the Kremlin was likely trying to “increase its combat power by drawing Belarus into the war and leveraging Syrian proxies, in addition to ongoing efforts to directly replace Russian combat losses through individual conscripts that are unlikely to be well-enough trained or motivated.”

Russian aircraft had likely conducted an attempted false-flag attack on Belarusian territory on Friday in an effort to draw Belarus into the war but Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko was likely to be resisting that pressure in order to avoid western sanctions and combat losses, the institute said.

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Posted: Mar 11, 2022 - 4:11pm

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In my opinion the only hope for an end to this (and to try and stop additional suffering) is a mass uprising of the Russian populace leading to an overthrow of the government (highly unlikely) or an internally organized coup of those residing close to or within Putin's inner circle. I'm betting the latter scenario is probably more feasible and is the one that I (along with what I assume to be many) are probably hoping for.




Agree with you there VV, and Putin is now well aware of these two possibilities . 
He must have been so cock sure he would have had Ukraine in the bag well before this.
And now he would be hearing of the mounting cases of war crimes against him along with the massive costs of Ukrainian infrastructure repairs win or lose. Putin would have already been offered some kinda "get out of jail card" ( standard negotiating tactic) deal by now by back door negotiators (the French ?).
And you can bet your bottom dollar they would also have been in discrete discussion with his closest aides .




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Posted: Mar 11, 2022 - 4:11pm

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Posted: Mar 11, 2022 - 11:07am

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Jim Rogers: "None Of This Should Be Happening, It's Absolute Madness"

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"...now we're all paying a gigantic price for...,the US State Department instigated coup in 2014..."

THU MAR 10, AT 6:00 PM

Facebook, Instagram To Allow Calls For Violence Against Russians Over Ukraine Invasion

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'In a recent change to the company's rules on violence and incitement..."

THU MAR 10, AT 5:40 PM 


Yes, that's right. The US made Ukrainians protest against a Russian-puppet govt and elect their own leaders.

The US also made the majority of Ukrainians want closer ties to the US and entry into the EU. Ukrainians have no will of their own. Oh and it's perfectly fine for Russia to invade another sovereign nation just because Russia became concerned that it was losing influence over that nation.



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