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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 9:18am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

so... what is he holding it back for? Does he think NATO is going to come with air cover?


Incompetent leadership? (not Putin's) Lack of motivation/interest on the part of the air force personnel?
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 9:13am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

so... what is he holding it back for? Does he think NATO is going to come with air cover?
 
i think he's probably sandbagging too
in his defense, he's clearly suffering from evil over-load
i'm hoping someone offers him an easy out (golden bridge)
what will his plebs do when they speak to their ukrainian brethren and find out how f'n heinous he's been?
putin huilo doesn't know when to pull out
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 9:04am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
so... what is he holding it back for? Does he think NATO is going to come with air cover?
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 9:02am

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Found this to be sadly, ironically, appropriate.  

If you don't recognize the overlay, it's Charles Minard's visualization of Napoleon's failed attempt to take Moscow.  It's the great-great-great-grandfather of the current data visualizations now everywhere.
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 8:39am

What happened to Russia's Air Force? U.S. officials, experts stumped
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 7:13am

 rgio wrote:

So how come the last President wouldn't meet with Zylenskyy?  Why did he not provide the optics of US support when asked?  Why did he withhold funds?  Did that help the situation?  How is that not "in support of Putin"?  Please don't respond with corruption, you know better.

Looking forward to the past few weeks, NATO has been the foundation of an immediate and significant response to the invasion.  Need I remind you what the last guy said about NATO:

"You know, we're dealing with NATO from the days of the Soviet Union,
which no longer exists. We need to either transition into terror or we
need something else."
"I said a long time ago that NATO had problems: Number one, it was obsolete, because it was designed many, many years ago."
"They want (us) to protect against Russia, and yet they pay billions of
dollars to Russia, and we're the schmucks paying for the whole thing."

That's the guy who is going to protect you against Russia?  He would have stopped this?  In reality, the US and NATO response would have been much weaker had Trump remained in office.  If you recall...Donnie was so hard on Russia that he wanted them to rejoin the G7. 

What's amazing about your discussion of timing (quote above) is your blind spot for the damage done by Trump.  Instead of thinking that Putin saw weakness in Biden, what he understood is that the US would never be weaker than it was at the end of the Trump era.  Trump had done as much of Putin's heavy lifting as was ever going to get done by a US President, and it was either now or never. 

There is a lot that Joe could have done better last night, and since taking office, but the world outside of Russia and China are much happier that Biden is in the White House instead of Trump.  As bad as things are, they would be significantly worse with Trump in office.  Beyond the head of state, the people running the government today are infinitely more capable than the clowns in place 2 years ago.  Stealing that election may have saved Democracy, and the world appreciates it.




Well said. Trump gave Russia the green light to do whatever they wanted. They got the message. It’s a different president now though.
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 6:45am

Russian forces in Ukraine moved to tighten their siege of key cities, including the capital, Kyiv, and the southern port of Mariupol, as one mayor told residents he had been given an ultimatum to surrender or the city would be razed by shelling.

At an outdoor meeting Artem Semenikhin, the mayor of Konotop, in the eastern Sumy region, told residents: “They have given us an ultimatum. If we start resisting, they’ll wipe out the town using artillery.”

“If you are for it, we’ll fight,” Semenikhin is heard telling a crowd of residents. “Who votes to fight?” he shouts as residents shout back, insisting they will resist.

Amid renewed heavy shelling, the mayor of Kharkiv, also in the country’s east, said he had no intention of surrendering.

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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 6:30am

https://thehill.com/homenews/a...

“I mean, he took a very tough stance against Russia. I'm surprised you don't think that he would have handled it better than Joe Biden,” Schmitt told Bolton.

“He did not,” Bolton replied. “We didn't sanction Nord Stream 2. We should have. We should have brought the project to an end. We did impose sanctions on Russian oligarchs and several others because of their sales of S-400 anti-aircraft systems to other countries. But in almost every case, the sanctions were imposed with Trump complaining about it, saying we were being too hard.”
The Trump-era national security adviser claimed the former president did not know where Ukraine was on a map and said he believed Russia did not take more aggressive actions while Trump was in office because Russia “didn’t feel that their military was ready.”
“The fact is that he barely knew where Ukraine was. He once asked John Kelly, his second chief of staff, if Finland were a part of Russia. It’s just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians,” Bolton said.



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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 4:47am

 rgio wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
Furthermore, right after our election with Biden being the winner, I flat out said here in one thread or another that Ukraine and Taiwan can both kiss their collective asses goodbye. 

So how come the last President wouldn't meet with Zylenskyy?  Why did he not provide the optics of US support when asked?  Why did he withhold funds?  Did that help the situation?  How is that not "in support of Putin"?  Please don't respond with corruption, you know better. Looking forward to the past few weeks, NATO has been the foundation of an immediate and significant response to the invasion.  Need I remind you what the last guy said about NATO: "You know, we're dealing with NATO from the days of the Soviet Union,
which no longer exists. We need to either transition into terror or we
need something else."
"I said a long time ago that NATO had problems: Number one, it was obsolete, because it was designed many, many years ago."
"They want (us) to protect against Russia, and yet they pay billions of
dollars to Russia, and we're the schmucks paying for the whole thing." That's the guy who is going to protect you against Russia?  He would have stopped this?  In reality, the US and NATO response would have been much weaker had Trump remained in office.  If you recall...Donnie was so hard on Russia that he wanted them to rejoin the G7.  What's amazing about your discussion of timing (quote above) is your blind spot for the damage done by Trump.  Instead of thinking that Putin saw weakness in Biden, what he understood is that the US would never be weaker than it was at the end of the Trump era.  Trump had done as much of Putin's heavy lifting as was ever going to get done by a US President, and it was either now or never.  There is a lot that Joe could have done better last night, and since taking office, but the world outside of Russia and China are much happier that Biden is in the White House instead of Trump.  As bad as things are, they would be significantly worse with Trump in office.  Beyond the head of state, the people running the government today are infinitely more capable than the clowns in place 2 years ago.  Stealing that election may have saved Democracy, and the world appreciates it.
 
+1 and thanks
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 4:36am

 kurtster wrote:
Furthermore, right after our election with Biden being the winner, I flat out said here in one thread or another that Ukraine and Taiwan can both kiss their collective asses goodbye. 

So how come the last President wouldn't meet with Zylenskyy?  Why did he not provide the optics of US support when asked?  Why did he withhold funds?  Did that help the situation?  How is that not "in support of Putin"?  Please don't respond with corruption, you know better.

Looking forward to the past few weeks, NATO has been the foundation of an immediate and significant response to the invasion.  Need I remind you what the last guy said about NATO:

"You know, we're dealing with NATO from the days of the Soviet Union,
which no longer exists. We need to either transition into terror or we
need something else."
"I said a long time ago that NATO had problems: Number one, it was obsolete, because it was designed many, many years ago."
"They want (us) to protect against Russia, and yet they pay billions of
dollars to Russia, and we're the schmucks paying for the whole thing."

That's the guy who is going to protect you against Russia?  He would have stopped this?  In reality, the US and NATO response would have been much weaker had Trump remained in office.  If you recall...Donnie was so hard on Russia that he wanted them to rejoin the G7. 

What's amazing about your discussion of timing (quote above) is your blind spot for the damage done by Trump.  Instead of thinking that Putin saw weakness in Biden, what he understood is that the US would never be weaker than it was at the end of the Trump era.  Trump had done as much of Putin's heavy lifting as was ever going to get done by a US President, and it was either now or never. 

There is a lot that Joe could have done better last night, and since taking office, but the world outside of Russia and China are much happier that Biden is in the White House instead of Trump.  As bad as things are, they would be significantly worse with Trump in office.  Beyond the head of state, the people running the government today are infinitely more capable than the clowns in place 2 years ago.  Stealing that election may have saved Democracy, and the world appreciates it.


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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 4:20am

delta india? any word?
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 1:22am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

OFFS
 
Look, my president sucks.  Putin began his troop buildup along the Ukrainian border in April of last year just a couple of months after Biden took office.  He telegraphed what he was going to do.  The same team was back in the WH when he took Crimea.  He waited and watched Biden's handling of Afghanistan, the focus on redirecting the priorities of our military towards Climate Change as the most pressing issue we faced.  The focus of our military over the use of pronouns and gender identity and finally the drumming out of active duty soldiers over vaccination status.  It was clear to everyone that Biden was deconstructing our military with all of his power to do so.  Didn't Kerry try to reason with Putin over the affects of his invasion in regards to Climate Change ?
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WTF ?  How stupid does one have to be to not see what was involved in Putin's timing ?  I cannot see how anyone is surprised by Putin's timing and actions, this being Putin's personal number one goal in life, the retaking of Ukraine.

You may think and say that how we got to this point doesn't matter.  Others do think that it matters.  History is repeating itself and Biden is making Chamberlain look like a genius in comparison.  And that is a really low bar.

We are just getting started with this snowball rolling down the hill and if your skin is already this thin, then may the Lord help your soul.  This can only get worse before it gets better.  China is watching and waiting.  Are you aware of that or even considering that ?

Like I've already said, this is more than likely for all the marbles.  Do you even consider that this may be the case ?  Are you ready for that ?

Furthermore, right after our election with Biden being the winner, I flat out said here in one thread or another that Ukraine and Taiwan can both kiss their collective asses goodbye.  I am sure that richard can find that, since he is my ardent watcher.
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 12:55am

 kurtster wrote:

From what I am hearing, the song is getting played a lot in Ukraine as we speak.  It is relevant.  What a song might mean to you may mean a whole different thing to someone else.

And regarding the latest from Biden, I repeat, if Trump had said it, this thread would be overwhelmed with remarks about it.  T Shirts would be the least of it.

And it is not just one under bombardment, it is a whole country.

So much for your own petty virtue signaling.
 
OFFS
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 12:54am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
Can you two guys maybe bear in mind one of us is currently under bombardment.
I don't think she gives a shit if Biden drops a consonant or the Beatles got tired of touring the USA back in the day. 
What's at stake is worth infinitely more than your petty point-scoring on this thread, of all places.
 
From what I am hearing, the song is getting played a lot in Ukraine as we speak.  It is relevant.  What a song might mean to you may mean a whole different thing to someone else.

And regarding the latest from Biden, I repeat, if Trump had said it, this thread would be overwhelmed with remarks about it.  T Shirts would be the least of it.

And it is not just one under bombardment, it is a whole country.

So much for your own petty virtue signaling.
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Posted: Mar 2, 2022 - 12:28am

Can you two guys maybe bear in mind one of us is currently under bombardment.
I don't think she gives a shit if Biden drops a consonant or the Beatles got tired of touring the USA back in the day. 
What's at stake is worth infinitely more than your petty point-scoring on this thread, of all places.
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Posted: Mar 1, 2022 - 11:32pm

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Posted: Mar 1, 2022 - 10:27pm

 Ivanhoe wrote: 
What a total douche bag.  Worse, he even got applause.  Democrats.  Typical.  Still no buyer's remorse.  Disturbing.

And if Trump had said that there would be T Shirts already.
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Posted: Mar 1, 2022 - 9:08pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
 
off to light a candle. It's about the only sane response.
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Posted: Mar 1, 2022 - 8:50pm

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Posted: Mar 1, 2022 - 8:46pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Far out. It's like some medieval nightmare come back to life.


whee!
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