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rgio

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Posted: Feb 26, 2022 - 8:58am

Steely_D wrote:

Fascinating thread about urban warfare in Ukraine. For instance, the city has cameras everywhere naturally, si they were able to easily watch incoming tanks, etc., without being in that physical space. Took the Russians a while to figure that out and disable them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnt...

My daughter works for a company that measures the amount of oil in a storage tank using satellites with SAR (synthetic aperture radar) which works at night, through storms, in real-time. They can count cars in a parking lot, and track movements over time using a library of images. It's pretty amazing stuff, and most of it is free from governments who own the satellites.

While the US and NATO may not be willing to put boots on the ground, they are definitely feeding the Ukrainians very detailed information on movements. The cameras are nice...but not so necessary.

An example of the technology, they held a contest to see what people thought would be interesting, and the winner was the Monitoring of Illegal Fishing

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Posted: Feb 26, 2022 - 7:59am

Ivanhoe wrote:

Ukraine is spreading the word that the Russians have miscalculated. - While this could be dismissed as war propaganda, it really looks like the Russians are making far less progress than they thought.

The Ukrainian president Zelensky (still tweeting at this time) - two days ago delivered a highly emotional speech to all Russians(!) which really goes to the heart of any human being!

Meanwhile, social media are going wild, not only on Putin (see the video on Twitter), and his war in Ukraine :

couple of thoughts on this
could he have miscalculated?
short term maybe:
he's going to war with the tools he has, some are described by a couple of analysts as vintage 1970s while the ukrianes have a lot of 2000s tech like javelins and NLAWS
or he just doesn't want to destroy infrastructure and minimize damage to his victims
long term: he most certainly did, the fallout and blowback from this will remove any doubt that anyone has about his character/intentions
and putin doesn't have the resources to sustain his occupation
eventually he will have to leave

it's looking like this war is between putin (not russia/russians) and the ukraine
hopefully in his demise he doesn't try and take too many innocent people with him

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Posted: Feb 26, 2022 - 7:46am
Steely_D wrote: My legacy here is secure. that made me lol for real ~sfw

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Posted: Feb 26, 2022 - 4:33am

Just watching a USA air force F16 been doing heaps of crazy figure 8 's along the Ukraine/Romanian border while couple USA helicopters were doing similar along the Polish/Ukraine border. No commercial aircraft in Ukraine airspace, elsewhere the skies are packed.
Fascinating but ever so sad whats taking place.
Was listening to some Ukrainians reporting that they were fleeing and having to abandon much loved pets. One guy basically ditched a load of food and water on the floor of his house leaving his dog to whatever , fully expecting to have said a final goodbye. I would be shattered to have to do that to my dogs. War stinks.

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 11:31pm
Steve Schmidt@SteveSchmidtSES There are a couple of things to keep in perspective. The University of Michigan has a stadium that holds 107,000 people. That means all of the Russian troops invading Ukraine would fit in two stadiums. The Ukraine is the size of Texas and has 42 million people. Putin has erred supply chain and logistics will decide the outcome, IMHO

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 9:10pm

westslope wrote:

More important. When it comes to US foreign policy, transparency and accountability should always be avoided at all costs.

Historical lessons should always be avoided. Treaty of Versailles and WW II? Watz dat?

Thankfully the USA and NATO took advantage of Russia's weakness after the implosion the Soviet Union and pushed NATO membership into the Baltic states and other former Warsaw Pact member nations.

Personally, I believe the USA should avoid the "Man of Great Stature" approach to international relations and foreign policy but if the will of the American people is to accelerate US hegemonic decline maybe that points a bright Panglossian future.

Your rabid disdain of US foreign policy, while understandable, is making you blind to the legitimate interests of the people of the former Eastern bloc, who you here oh-so-casually cast at the feet of a despotic power. They lived through 45 years of Soviet occupation. They most certainly do not want to go back.

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 5:12pm
Steely_D wrote: My legacy here is secure.

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 5:11pm
R_P wrote: That's something *PUTIN* would say! My legacy here is secure.

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 5:06pm
Steely_D wrote: Clickbait, especially based on someone whoâs a failed real estate salesman adulterer twice impeached self-proclaimed not a political expert, doesnât seem like it belongs here. That's something *PUTIN* would say!

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 4:33pm
Animal-Farm wrote: I know* CNN & MSNBC never aired this, so I figured I would. Spot on, don't you think? SUPPRESSED! * because Trump being a dick would never get aired on those media outlets.

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 4:09pm
westslope wrote: Why should I watch this? Please explain what it is. Trump explaining his view

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 3:51pm

deltaindia wrote:

Kharkiv is on fire, Russian terrorists shelled a children's hospital, a blood donation center, houses, factories, cars...
The civilians I knew were killed, the parents of colleagues were left homeless, some were injured in the blood transfusion center.
This is genocide, terrorism and a crime against humanity. Fights are underway! We will defend our city, truth and God are behind us! Thanks to everyone who supports us! Pray for Ukraine ð

I am in safe.

westslope

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 3:38pm
Animal-Farm wrote: I know CNN & MSNBC never aired this, so I figured I would. Spot on, don't you think? Why should I watch this? Please explain what it is.

Animal-Farm

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 3:22pm
I know CNN & MSNBC never aired this, so I figured I would. Spot on, don't you think?

steeler

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 12:25pm
Steely_D wrote: So we need to avoid any of the media that's still trying to pit us against each other with speculation and name calling. Get back to a united front. The evil media. Enemies of the people.

rgio

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 12:19pm

kurtster wrote:

So to all of you foreign policy experts who blame the invasion on Trump, Trump being Putin's bitch and all, why did Putin wait to invade with "toe to toe with Putin" Biden as POTUS ? You would think that he would have done it long ago when Trump was in office since Trump had his back, no ?

He might have waited, just to see if Donnie could damage NATO and piss off allies more.
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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 11:35am

kurtster wrote:

Why now? There are those who are insisting that this would not have happened if Trump were President. Of course, that âlogicâ is bulletproof because it cannot be disproven or proven. I read an interesting take earlier this week, before the start of the invasion. The gist: Trump during his 2016 campaign and at various times during his presidency called NATO obsolete and questioned its worth to the United States. That and his expressed disdain for allies, especially Germany, may have had Putin thinking that NATO was weakening and might even dissolve under Trumpâs watch.

Which is not to say that Trump is responsible for Putinâs decision to invade Ukraine. Nor is Biden. We do know that Putin was concerned, and long has been concerned, about what he sees as the encroachment of NATO upon countries previously within the sphere of Russian/Soviet influence. There appear to be many other factors as well, and we can only speculate upon the catalysts for his decision and his motivations. It is simplistic to say, for example, that the US withdrawal from Afghanistan displayed weakness that prompted Putin to take this action.

What we do know is that this is an outrageous act and this is a perilous time. Ukraine matters. That is the most important message that we Americans can and should convey, to each other and to the world.

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 11:24am

deltaindia wrote:

It's a discussion/argument for us here...but the hell of war is all too real for you.
So sorry for your loss and all the unnecessary violence being inflicted.

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 10:47am

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Posted: Feb 25, 2022 - 10:38am
So to all of you foreign policy experts who blame the invasion on Trump, Trump being Putin's bitch and all, why did Putin wait to invade with "toe to toe with Putin" Biden as POTUS ? You would think that he would have done it long ago when Trump was in office since Trump had his back, no ?

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