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sirdroseph

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Posted: May 10, 2018 - 9:19am
Â R_P wrote: Sticks and stones. However, calling the cops on a black person when it's not really needed could have some really bad consequences in some places. Â That's a fair point.

islander

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Location: West coast somewhere
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Posted: May 10, 2018 - 9:13am

meower wrote:

I'd like to know how many white kids in the college dorms have had the police called on them for sleeping.

You don't have to be racist to be reactively racially biased and not know it. That's what I am assuming happened here.

And the general police reaction - "show us your papers" seems out of line for the situation. I'm impressed by the student's general calm in dealing with the pretty BS situation. I've dealt with cops trying (and succeeding) in being intimidating, and I had lots of cameras and the fortune to be a well dressed older white guy in the situation, and I was still unnerved.

Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan

Posted: May 10, 2018 - 8:49am

islander wrote:

I'm more and more interested in the whole timeline. She apparently turned on the lights and confronted her about sleeping in the common room, that should have been enough. Was there a response that caused the police to be called, or were the police called and then the initial "you can't sleep here" happened?

I spent my share of time asleep in the school library and various spots in the engineering building and was never hassled for it.

I'd also be interested to know how many sleeping white folks she's called the cops on.

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Posted: May 10, 2018 - 8:48am
miamizsun wrote: that she called, or confronted someone based on race (i may be missing that part) accusing someone of being a racist is pretty bad, just the accusation alone could have some really bad consequences Sticks and stones. However, calling the cops on a black person when it's not really needed could have some really bad consequences in some places.

meower

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Posted: May 10, 2018 - 8:45am

miamizsun wrote:

some people are paranoid, some are just pains in the arse and would bitch about anything

the problem when making a claim is that you need some sort of evidence

that she called, or confronted someone based on race (i may be missing that part)

accusing someone of being a racist is pretty bad, just the accusation alone could have some really bad consequences

heck i've lived in associations and been on the board where neighbors feud over senseless stuff

if we get some video or blog posts or something that resembles evidence then there's a case

regards

I'd like to know how many white kids in the college dorms have had the police called on them for sleeping.

You don't have to be racist to be reactively racially biased and not know it. That's what I am assuming happened here.

miamizsun

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Location: (3283.1 Miles SE of RP)
Gender: Male

Posted: May 10, 2018 - 8:21am

Red_Dragon wrote:

Apparently this is not the first time that this particular person has done this...

Lazy8

Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana
Gender: Male

Posted: May 10, 2018 - 8:17am

islander wrote:

I'm less and less interested in Yale as a place to visit.

It's finals week at Yale. There must have been hundreds of students conked out all over campus. When the cops got there the appropriate question for the caller would have been "Is this your first semester at school? You need to get over this."

islander

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Posted: May 10, 2018 - 8:11am

Lazy8 wrote:

Red_Dragon wrote:

Apparently this is not the first time that this particular person has done this...

It's near the end of the school year. She has lived with the lady who got harassed—they've been neighbors—for (at least) the better part of a year. Why did she not know her?

Has dorm life become that impersonal and insular since I went to college?

Since when are sleeping students a threat? Criminy, I'd have spent an awful lot of my college career in handcuffs if I got harassed every time I took a nap.

islander

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Posted: May 10, 2018 - 8:05am

miamizsun wrote:

i didn't see any evidence that security was called because of race

is this just an assumption because of race?

after a quick search i saw a blurb about crime increasing there

could calling for security be an encouraged protocol?

yale has installed over 500 blue phones around campus for safety measures

maybe she thought the person was a guest (there are rules in the student handbook about sleeping in the common areas)

Guests in Dormitories
You may have a guest stay with you for a 3-day, 2-night period occasionally.
All guests are to sleep in student rooms, not in common rooms or any other
space outside of the student’s room. Keys are not issued to guests.
You must register your guest with the Housing Office. Please email
housing@yale.edu including your name, your room number and building,
as well as the name of your guest and the dates of their stay. Failure to
register your guests or complaints against a guest can result in loss of guest
privileges. Guests should conduct themselves in a manner that is respectful
to the other residents. It is your responsibility to let your guest know about
the campus regulations and housing expectations. Guests should not be left
in student rooms and buildings when their hosts are not with them.

Yale Police Chief Ronnell Higgins did not respond Wednesday to a request for comment. But Yale spokeswoman Karen Peart told CNN, "We believe the Yale police who responded followed procedures."

not picking nits but it seems the media are quick to judge people

peace

A lot of speculating, so I'll add some of my own.

a) it would be nice if there were a video of the original incident. In my experience students sleeping in common areas wasn't unusual. She said she was studying, so were there papers/books present?

b) What exactly was it that lead to the other student being 'uncomfortable' and feeling that there was a need to call the police? Was there any justification beyond race? How many times were the police called in on sleeping students this year?

c) There is a ~ 18 minute video of them 'clearing things up', that includes checking her ID against a student database (and subsequent confusion because of a name mis-match). I can see their demand to show an ID as further proof of legitimacy after having a key/opening a door, but the cross check and subsequent questioning and detaining seems pretty extreme for just validating. Again, how often does this happen?

d) yes, the media (and it's consumers) are quick to judge, often coming down on prescribed sides. But the whole climate of increased bigotry has been intensified in the last several years, and substantially so in the last 1.5 years. It's always easy to speculate on an alternate hypothesis, but I'd wager we wouldn't be having this discussion if the sleeping student was white.

miamizsun

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Gender: Male

Posted: May 10, 2018 - 8:04am
maryte wrote: When did you last spend time on a college campus? last time as a student/client? um business school 2006

Lazy8

Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana
Gender: Male

Posted: May 10, 2018 - 8:04am

Red_Dragon wrote:

Apparently this is not the first time that this particular person has done this...

Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan

Posted: May 10, 2018 - 7:46am

miamizsun wrote:

Guests in Dormitories
You may have a guest stay with you for a 3-day, 2-night period occasionally.
All guests are to sleep in student rooms, not in common rooms or any other
space outside of the student’s room. Keys are not issued to guests.
You must register your guest with the Housing Office. Please email
housing@yale.edu including your name, your room number and building,
as well as the name of your guest and the dates of their stay. Failure to
register your guests or complaints against a guest can result in loss of guest
privileges. Guests should conduct themselves in a manner that is respectful
to the other residents. It is your responsibility to let your guest know about
the campus regulations and housing expectations. Guests should not be left
in student rooms and buildings when their hosts are not with them.

Yale Police Chief Ronnell Higgins did not respond Wednesday to a request for comment. But Yale spokeswoman Karen Peart told CNN, "We believe the Yale police who responded followed procedures."

not picking nits but it seems the media are quick to judge people

peace

Apparently this is not the first time that this particular person has done this...

maryte

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Location: Blinding You With Library Science!
Gender: Female

Posted: May 10, 2018 - 6:39am

miamizsun wrote:

Guests in Dormitories
You may have a guest stay with you for a 3-day, 2-night period occasionally.
All guests are to sleep in student rooms, not in common rooms or any other
space outside of the student’s room. Keys are not issued to guests.
You must register your guest with the Housing Office. Please email
housing@yale.edu including your name, your room number and building,
as well as the name of your guest and the dates of their stay. Failure to
register your guests or complaints against a guest can result in loss of guest
privileges. Guests should conduct themselves in a manner that is respectful
to the other residents. It is your responsibility to let your guest know about
the campus regulations and housing expectations. Guests should not be left
in student rooms and buildings when their hosts are not with them.

Yale Police Chief Ronnell Higgins did not respond Wednesday to a request for comment. But Yale spokeswoman Karen Peart told CNN, "We believe the Yale police who responded followed procedures."

not picking nits but it seems the media are quick to judge people

peace

When did you last spend time on a college campus?

Coaxial

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Location: Comfortably numb in So Texas
Gender: Male

Posted: May 10, 2018 - 6:23am

miamizsun wrote:

Guests in Dormitories
You may have a guest stay with you for a 3-day, 2-night period occasionally.
All guests are to sleep in student rooms, not in common rooms or any other
space outside of the student’s room. Keys are not issued to guests.
You must register your guest with the Housing Office. Please email
housing@yale.edu including your name, your room number and building,
as well as the name of your guest and the dates of their stay. Failure to
register your guests or complaints against a guest can result in loss of guest
privileges. Guests should conduct themselves in a manner that is respectful
to the other residents. It is your responsibility to let your guest know about
the campus regulations and housing expectations. Guests should not be left
in student rooms and buildings when their hosts are not with them.

Yale Police Chief Ronnell Higgins did not respond Wednesday to a request for comment. But Yale spokeswoman Karen Peart told CNN, "We believe the Yale police who responded followed procedures."

not picking nits but it seems the media are quick to judge people

peace

Nit nit picker. {#Hand}

miamizsun

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Location: (3283.1 Miles SE of RP)
Gender: Male

Posted: May 10, 2018 - 6:06am

meower wrote:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/us/yale-student-napping-black-trnd/index.html

A black Yale graduate student took a nap in her dorm's common room. So a white student called police

#nappingwhileblack

Guests in Dormitories
You may have a guest stay with you for a 3-day, 2-night period occasionally.
All guests are to sleep in student rooms, not in common rooms or any other
space outside of the student’s room. Keys are not issued to guests.
You must register your guest with the Housing Office. Please email
housing@yale.edu including your name, your room number and building,
as well as the name of your guest and the dates of their stay. Failure to
register your guests or complaints against a guest can result in loss of guest
privileges. Guests should conduct themselves in a manner that is respectful
to the other residents. It is your responsibility to let your guest know about
the campus regulations and housing expectations. Guests should not be left
in student rooms and buildings when their hosts are not with them.

Yale Police Chief Ronnell Higgins did not respond Wednesday to a request for comment. But Yale spokeswoman Karen Peart told CNN, "We believe the Yale police who responded followed procedures."

not picking nits but it seems the media are quick to judge people

peace

Coaxial

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Location: Comfortably numb in So Texas
Gender: Male

Posted: May 10, 2018 - 5:26am
meower wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/us/yale-student-napping-black-trnd/index.html A black Yale graduate student took a nap in her dorm's common room. So a white student called police #nappingwhileblack There should be some type of ramifications for this crap...Maybe wear a big, asshat for a month or so...Something to denote their nearsightedness as it were.

meower

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Gender: Female

Posted: May 10, 2018 - 5:09am
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/us/yale-student-napping-black-trnd/index.html A black Yale graduate student took a nap in her dorm's common room. So a white student called police #nappingwhileblack

R_P

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Posted: May 6, 2018 - 1:08pm

Ranks of Notorious Hate Group Include Active-Duty Military
A Marine took part in the violent assaults in Charlottesville last summer and later bragged about it online with other members of Atomwaffen, an extremist group preparing for a race war. The involvement of current or former service members — often with sophisticated weapons training — in white supremacist groups has long been a concern.

R_P

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Posted: May 5, 2018 - 2:06pm
A Mom Called Police Because Two Native American Teens on Same College Tour Made Her 'Nervous' ²

R_P

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Posted: May 2, 2018 - 11:08am

Black men arrested in Starbucks settle for $1 each and $200,000 program for young people

Two black men arrested for sitting at a Philadelphia Starbucks without ordering anything settled with the city Wednesday for a symbolic $1 each and a promise from officials to set up a $200,000 program for young entrepreneurs.
The men’s lawyer and Mayor Jim Kenney outlined the agreement to the Associated Press.
“I am pleased to have resolved the potential claims against the city in this productive manner,” Kenney said. “This was an incident that evoked a lot of pain in our city and put us under a national spotlight for unwanted reasons.”
The arrest of Rashon Nelson and Donte Robinson on April 12 touched off a furore in the US over racial profiling. They were led away in handcuffs after the manager called police, saying the men refused to buy anything or leave. After spending hours in jail, they were released and no charges were filed. (...)

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