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Posted: Jan 19, 2022 - 11:36am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
In post WWII Russia, Stalin banned the possession of any western music. All records allowed in the country had to be of Russian composers. But there was an underground hungry for Western popular music—everything from jazz and blues to rock & roll. But smuggling vinyl was dangerous, and acquiring the scarce material to make copies of those records that did make it into the country was expensive and very risky. An ingenuous solution to this problem began to emerge in the form of “bone music," or sometimes called "bones 'n' ribs" music, or simply Ribs. A young 19 year-old sound engineer Ruslan Bogoslowski in Leningrad changed the game when he created a device to bootleg western albums so he could distribute them across Russia. Problem was he couldn't find material to bootleg his pressings onto, vinyl was scare as were all petroleum products after the war. Then, one day he stumbled upon a pile of discarded X-rays. It worked. At the time, Russian law mandated that all X-rays had to be destroyed after 1 year of storage because they were flammable so he dug through trash bins and paid off orderlies for x-rays and for 20 years he handmade about 1,000,000 bootlegs onto X-ray film of everything from classical to the Beach Boys, eventually spending five years imprisoned in Siberia for this rebellion. For over 20 years, Bone Music was the only way Russian music lovers could get western music, which they played at "music and coffee parties" in their kitchens, away from the KGB ears and eyes. So I had to find one. This is a 78 rpm recording of the Indian Song "Awaara" by Raj Kapoor on an exposed Chest X-ray. Probably around 1951. Each Rib, was handmade, and one of a kind. Bone Music. A testament to the underground courage to subvert authority, rebellion, and the love of music. The spirit of rock n roll.
And from the comments on the reddit page, another one:
 
Very interesting.  I certainly do remember how non Soviet music was banned and knew of the underground distribution of music from the outside.  IIRC Billy Joel was one of the first major acts to perform in Russia.  Never knew about the repurposing of X Ray plates.  Pure genius.

Today, Russia is a major source of Mint copies for 60's 1st pressings of Rock music.  Mostly from European countries and also a lot of Japanese items as well.  Amazing that they were somehow safely kept hidden for decades.  Also many stories of counterfeit pressings, both vinyl and CD's.  This just reinforces that they do have the wherewithal and ability to counterfeit vinyl.

Here are just two Russian seller's listings I found at random just by searching Led Zep I.  Many more of them with mind blowing inventories. 

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https://www.discogs.com/seller/vinylrarities62/profile?sort=price%2Cdesc&limit=100&format=Vinyl

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https://www.discogs.com/seller/alex19601906/profile?sort=price%2Cdesc&limit=100&format=Vinyl
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Jan 19, 2022 - 9:47am

gasp, stunningly bizarre and somehow fitting all at the same time
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jan 19, 2022 - 9:42am

In post WWII Russia, Stalin banned the possession of any western music. All records allowed in the country had to be of Russian composers. But there was an underground hungry for Western popular music—everything from jazz and blues to rock & roll. But smuggling vinyl was dangerous, and acquiring the scarce material to make copies of those records that did make it into the country was expensive and very risky.

An ingenuous solution to this problem began to emerge in the form of “bone music," or sometimes called "bones 'n' ribs" music, or simply Ribs.

A young 19 year-old sound engineer Ruslan Bogoslowski in Leningrad changed the game when he created a device to bootleg western albums so he could distribute them across Russia. Problem was he couldn't find material to bootleg his pressings onto, vinyl was scare as were all petroleum products after the war. Then, one day he stumbled upon a pile of discarded X-rays. It worked. At the time, Russian law mandated that all X-rays had to be destroyed after 1 year of storage because they were flammable so he dug through trash bins and paid off orderlies for x-rays and for 20 years he handmade about 1,000,000 bootlegs onto X-ray film of everything from classical to the Beach Boys, eventually spending five years imprisoned in Siberia for this rebellion.

For over 20 years, Bone Music was the only way Russian music lovers could get western music, which they played at "music and coffee parties" in their kitchens, away from the KGB ears and eyes.

So I had to find one. This is a 78 rpm recording of the Indian Song "Awaara" by Raj Kapoor on an exposed Chest X-ray. Probably around 1951. Each Rib, was handmade, and one of a kind.

Bone Music. A testament to the underground courage to subvert authority, rebellion, and the love of music. The spirit of rock n roll.
And from the comments on the reddit page, another one:

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Posted: Jan 19, 2022 - 4:25am

for me this was sort of difficult to follow (due to accent) while driving, but once seated at home i found it worthwhile

highlights really poor thinking (or thought process) of the extremes
typical pre-modern and post-modern framework
authoritarian rule and an unabashed lack of fidelity to objective science
what could go wrong?   ;-)

and this guy is supposedly very influential to putin...







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Posted: Jan 14, 2022 - 10:02am

 miamizsun wrote:
paywall?

Shmaywall.

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Posted: Jan 14, 2022 - 3:53am

 R_P wrote:

paywall?
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Posted: Jan 13, 2022 - 3:45pm

When Will the U.S. Stop Lying to Itself About Global Politics?
John J. Mearsheimer, “The False Promise of Liberal Hegemony”

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Posted: Sep 11, 2021 - 10:02am

Time to congratulate the Americans friends for squandering the peace dividend that SHOULD have resulted from the implosion of the Soviet Union.

Well done.  Congratulations.  

Now please lie down on the couch and tell us more about your collective self-loathing.
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 12:00pm

{#Eek}  

um, I wasn't trying to make anyone feel stupid, just pointing out that the Soviet Union collapsed thirty years ago, Azerbaijan was an independent nation before the Soviet Union was even created, has a population that is 97% Muslim and is overwhelmingly of Turkic ethnicity. Sure it has a Soviet past, but it's certainly not Russian.
People who come from small countries like I do get their feathers ruffled pretty quickly when big neighbours try to subsume them within their cultural hegemony, so proclaiming your love of Russia then posting a video of Azerbaijan jarred with me. That's all.

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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 7:40am

Geez, can't the half dozen of us left in these forums find a way to respectfully communicate, or at least ignore what we don't like? 
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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 6:57am

 sirdroseph wrote:

Walk on by then, I will not demean you other than to defend myself from attacks.  Fine, I will just leave if it makes you feel better......does it make you feel better?
 
The place wouldn't be the same without you.{#Meditate}
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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 6:51am

 Coaxial wrote:

I know...Some people just post videos that 99% of those some just walk on by and then they want to snap at people...Can you believe it? {#Good-vibes}
 
Walk on by then, I will not demean you other than to defend myself from attacks.  Fine, I will just leave if it makes you feel better......does it make you feel better?
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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 6:49am

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Culturally, former Soviet satellite and historic close ties to Russia, but you knew that which raises the question why you would phrase it in such a way that it has nothing to do with Russia?{#Stupid}  The arrogance of some in this forum is hard to take sometimes.  Couldn't possibly imagine why those that have different viewpoints would not want to listen to you.{#Eek}
 
I know...Some people just post videos that 99% of those some just walk on by and then they want to snap at people...Can you believe it? {#Good-vibes}
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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 6:47am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Because the Azerbaijanis are a Turkic people and touting it as a satellite of Russia is pretty tone-deaf to say the least. If anything it is way closer to Turkey in terms of culture, a country which supported it in the most recent war.
 
The entire Caucas region and Eastern Europe have ties to Russia or the former Soviet Union.  If you desire to make your sociopolitical points by demeaning others and assuming ignorance in a completely non political post, then feel free but you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow.  Y'all are some high falutin' miserable people sometimes. Just look at all the post that are happening right now in other threads and tell me otherwise.
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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 6:44am

 sirdroseph wrote:

Culturally, former Soviet satellite and historic close ties to Russia, but you knew that which raises the question why you would phrase it in such a way that it has nothing to do with Russia?{#Stupid}
 
Because the Azerbaijanis are a Turkic people and touting it as a satellite of Russia is pretty tone-deaf to say the least. If anything it is way closer to Turkey in terms of culture, a country which supported it in the most recent war.
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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 6:39am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

um, what does Azerbaijan have to do with Russia? Just asking for a friend.
 
Culturally, former Soviet satellite and historic close ties to Russia, but you knew that which raises the question why you would phrase it in such a way that it has nothing to do with Russia?{#Stupid}  The arrogance of some in this forum is hard to take sometimes.  Couldn't possibly imagine why those that have different viewpoints would not want to listen to you.{#Eek}
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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 6:24am

 sirdroseph wrote:
This guy is great as he travels and meets real people.  I have always had an affinity for Russia, I must have been a Russian in a past life or something.  The people are so warm and friendly. I threaten my wife that we should move there, but she does not like cold weather and is having none of it!{#Snooty}
 
 
um, what does Azerbaijan have to do with Russia? Just asking for a friend.
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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 6:12am

This guy is great as he travels and meets real people.  I have always had an affinity for Russia, I must have been a Russian in a past life or something.  The people are so warm and friendly. I threaten my wife that we should move there, but she does not like cold weather and is having none of it!{#Snooty}
 
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