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Posted: Sep 12, 2024 - 6:51am

 oldviolin wrote:

I'm not so self educated that I can't learn anything new...



your big head is why
maryte

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Posted: Sep 12, 2024 - 6:13am

"They" and "us" - ethnocentrism much?
oldviolin

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 12:59pm

I'm not so self educated that I can't learn anything new...
oldviolin

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 11:58am

 islander wrote:

Lots of stuff to unpack here. 
Do you feel the same way about polio?


No. For the sake of argument we don't need to unpack anything.  Perhaps I'm uninformed. There are lots of facts. Lots of graphs and protracted discussion videos and time expenditures on the subject. I only know for sure my personal experiences and of those I interact with. It serves me well. I can be considered fairly open minded if not opinionated. 
From the onset it was sheer catastrophe.
Now it is more a cautionary tale with ongoing innocent victims. Much like war, don't you think? I trust that folks will remain vigilant. 

black321

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 11:53am

seems those with O+ blood have less issues with Covid

oldviolin

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 11:48am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


20% of people who have covid (and are transmitting it) never become symptomatic.
Some people, Justine included, never test positive with an at-home test but she's had it twice, as hospital testing has confirmed. 
"New strains amount to a cold" is pretty unhelpful. Fewer people are likely to suffer severe symptoms than before, but hospitalizations are now about equal with flu. As with flu, you may be able to power through it or may be laid up for a couple of days of misery, but most of us avoid the hospital. As with the flu vax, would you have suffered more severe symptoms without the vax? Somebody's probably tested that

There is a difficult-to-parse story from last year, where the internet said covid was more contagious among vaxxed people, but the nuanced statement was that people who had had covid or a vax were more susceptible to that latest variant than they were to earlier variants. So still less contagious but not as much less as before.

When I have caught it, twice, the first one was a solid 8 days of wracking pain and a long long recovery period. I absolutely positively was on board for vaccines. When I caught it again more recently, it was rough but I stayed upright and generally functional despite being able to turn those test strips black in just seconds. I credit vaccines for much of the difference but who knows?

Anytime someone gets a vaccine or a new bicycle helmet, they are at a greatly increased risk of testing those systems. I remarked at the time how bulletproof I felt having had covid and then a few months later, got the vaccine. Stupid little mutatin' bug made sure that feeling didn't last.

Indeed. That was my own nonsensical under thought. One big issue with the virus is how inconsistent the effects are from one person to the next. Age isn't as much a factor it seems. I know an 88 year old man who said it was much like a cold for about a week. His partner had a 3 week bout more flu like.
I definitely do not mean to minimize the vulnerability of people in this situation with Covid and all the variants.

islander

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 11:47am

 oldviolin wrote:

So many of my vaxxed and boosted friends getting Covid every few months now. Over and over. I'm afraid all that immunization has become a precondition.
On the other hand, several who were never vaxxed never caught it to begin with. Good for them. They held the line under an incredible amount of pressure.
I understand the new strains amount to a cold. 
Hate to project but I'm not sure the right lessons have been learned. Something tells me the dark side of the diseases stalking society are still rampant.


Lots of stuff to unpack here. 
Do you feel the same way about polio?
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 11:35am

 oldviolin wrote:

So many of my vaxxed and boosted friends getting Covid every few months now. Over and over. I'm afraid all that immunization has become a precondition.
On the other hand, several who were never vaxxed never caught it to begin with. Good for them. They held the line under an incredible amount of pressure.
I understand the new strains amount to a cold. 
Hate to project but I'm not sure the right lessons have been learned. Something tells me the dark side of the diseases stalking society are still rampant.



20% of people who have covid (and are transmitting it) never become symptomatic.
Some people, Justine included, never test positive with an at-home test but she's had it twice, as hospital testing has confirmed. 
"New strains amount to a cold" is pretty unhelpful. Fewer people are likely to suffer severe symptoms than before, but hospitalizations are now about equal with flu. As with flu, you may be able to power through it or may be laid up for a couple of days of misery, but most of us avoid the hospital. As with the flu vax, would you have suffered more severe symptoms without the vax? Somebody's probably tested that

There is a difficult-to-parse story from last year, where the internet said covid was more contagious among vaxxed people, but the nuanced statement was that people who had had covid or a vax were more susceptible to that latest variant than they were to earlier variants. So still less contagious but not as much less as before.

When I have caught it, twice, the first one was a solid 8 days of wracking pain and a long long recovery period. I absolutely positively was on board for vaccines. When I caught it again more recently, it was rough but I stayed upright and generally functional despite being able to turn those test strips black in just seconds. I credit vaccines for much of the difference but who knows?

Anytime someone gets a vaccine or a new bicycle helmet, they are at a greatly increased risk of testing those systems. I remarked at the time how bulletproof I felt having had covid and then a few months later, got the vaccine. Stupid little mutatin' bug made sure that feeling didn't last.
oldviolin

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 10:19am

So many of my vaxxed and boosted friends getting Covid every few months now. Over and over. I'm afraid all that immunization has become a precondition.
On the other hand, several who were never vaxxed never caught it to begin with. Good for them. They held the line under an incredible amount of pressure.
I understand the new strains amount to a cold. 
Hate to project but I'm not sure the right lessons have been learned. Something tells me the dark side of the diseases stalking society are still rampant.

Coaxial

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 9:48am

Easy to get buried in the past when you try to make the good times last...{#Meditate}
oldviolin

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 9:12am

Well, there was this one girl. We came back from the festival and settled down in a stairwell at her dorm. Hey I was 22 and she was at least 38, so shut up!
Plus it's Munich! You can't make that stuff up!


oldviolin

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 8:58am

 Coaxial wrote:
Didn't we have someone that ultimately was DD'd who posted things that made no sense, to threads that made no sense? Seems so...Wonder if he just changed bodies for this go around?
{#Stupid}


Waaaait a minute here. I never got DD'd. I must not be trying hard enough...
Proclivities

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 8:12am

 Coaxial wrote:
This Swede is still whacked.
{#Stop}

I don't think you got the nationality right, but yes - whacked and seemingly posting AI-generated text.
Beaker

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 7:44am

 Coaxial wrote:
Didn't we have someone that ultimately was DD'd who posted things that made no sense, to threads that made no sense? Seems so...Wonder if he just changed bodies for this go around?
{#Stupid}


I'm sorry.  I'll try harder to behave.
Coaxial

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Posted: Sep 11, 2024 - 7:16am

Didn't we have someone that ultimately was DD'd who posted things that made no sense, to threads that made no sense? Seems so...Wonder if he just changed bodies for this go around?{#Stupid}
Isabeau

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Posted: Sep 10, 2024 - 8:31pm

 Proclivities wrote:

WTAF?



The day after the debate.....
thisbody

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Posted: Sep 10, 2024 - 3:54pm

Whack a Suede with a gallon of gas..


Coaxial

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Posted: Sep 10, 2024 - 3:31pm

This Swede is still whacked.{#Stop}
Coaxial

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Posted: Sep 10, 2024 - 3:30pm

This Swede is still whacked.{#Stop}
thisbody

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Posted: Sep 10, 2024 - 12:29pm

 Proclivities wrote:




Sugar Babe
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