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Posted: Nov 23, 2021 - 8:56pm

Contending With the Pandemic, Wealthy Nations Wage Global Battle for Migrants
Covid kept many people in place. Now several developed countries, facing aging labor forces and worker shortages, are racing to recruit, train and integrate foreigners.
As the global economy heats up and tries to put the pandemic aside, a battle for the young and able has begun. With fast-track visas and promises of permanent residency, many of the wealthy nations driving the recovery are sending a message to skilled immigrants all over the world: Help wanted. Now.

In Germany, where officials recently warned that the country needs 400,000 new immigrants a year to fill jobs in fields ranging from academia to air-conditioning, a new Immigration Act offers accelerated work visas and six months to visit and find a job.

Canada plans to give residency to 1.2 million new immigrants by 2023. Israel recently finalized a deal to bring health care workers from Nepal. And in Australia, where mines, hospitals and pubs are all short-handed after nearly two years with a closed border, the government intends to roughly double the number of immigrants it allows into the country over the next year.

The global drive to attract foreigners with skills, especially those that fall somewhere between physical labor and a physics Ph.D., aims to smooth out a bumpy emergence from the pandemic.

Covid’s disruptions have pushed many people to retire, resign or just not return to work. But its effects run deeper. By keeping so many people in place, the pandemic has made humanity’s demographic imbalance more obvious — rapidly aging rich nations produce too few new workers, while countries with a surplus of young people often lack work for all. (...)

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Posted: Nov 23, 2021 - 3:29pm

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The key here Lazy8 is to read carefully. Neo-Malthusian.

If you are unfamiliar with the concept, please say so.

I wasn't, so I looked it up. And just as the "neo" prefix doesn't add much to Nazism or Colonialism or Expressionism, it doesn't add much to Malthusianism. At least according to Wikipedia the major difference is that neo-Malthusians support birth control.

If there is something about the prefix that makes Malthus less wrong I've yet to hear it; maybe you could enlighten me. If it follows the basic outline Malthus proposed then there really isn't anything you could sprinkle on it that wouldn't make it a steaming pile.
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Posted: Nov 23, 2021 - 11:59am

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If it's any consolation Malthus was so wrong that we need a new category of wrongness to contain just how wrong he was. Unfortunately his theory is so beautifully simple and compact that it remains appealing today, at least among people who prefer an elegant theory to an untidy reality.

The key here Lazy8 is to read carefully.  Neo-Malthusian.  

If you are unfamiliar with the concept, please say so.


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Posted: Nov 23, 2021 - 10:53am

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P.S.  Private Refugee Resettlement in U.S. History was a good read too.    Here are my thoughts are far more depressing.  Neo-Malthusian crises here and there around the world but particularly in Central America will cause a flood of refugees that no combination of welcoming rich countries can accommodate.   Too bad so many radical leftists in Latin America and Africa have embraced Roman Catholic labour supply policies....

If it's any consolation Malthus was so wrong that we need a new category of wrongness to contain just how wrong he was. Unfortunately his theory is so beautifully simple and compact that it remains appealing today, at least among people who prefer an elegant theory to an untidy reality.
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Posted: Nov 23, 2021 - 10:12am

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A Brief History of U.S. Immigration Policy from the Colonial Period to the Present Day  - CATO Institute

Thanks for posting this Lazy8.  I read it quickly.  Nice to some actual 'data'.       Three thoughts:

1)  US immigration policy is still a mess.

2)  Like the USA, Canada is allowing in allowing in large numbers of family reunification candidates.   Like the USA, one gets the impression here in Canada that most Canadians do not understand Canada's immigration policies and flows very well.  (They certainly do not understand the poor economic performance of Canadian immigrants.)

3)   It is rare that one sees the term 'path dependent' in a policy article.  Sweet.


P.S.  Private Refugee Resettlement in U.S. History was a good read too.    Here are my thoughts are far more depressing.  Neo-Malthusian crises here and there around the world but particularly in Central America will cause a flood of refugees that no combination of welcoming rich countries can accommodate.   Too bad so many radical leftists in Latin America and Africa have embraced Roman Catholic labour supply policies....
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Posted: Nov 3, 2021 - 10:40am

The ‘Third Rail of American Politics’ Is Still Electrifying
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Posted: Nov 2, 2021 - 5:20am

 Lazy8 wrote:



unfortunately i've seen something like this firsthand
and ways that people try and circumvent it like proxy marriages, etc. 
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Posted: Nov 1, 2021 - 9:14pm


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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 3:20pm

OK.  I now understand OFFS.

Usually when I see Off, I think insect repellent. As in why is Lazy8 going on about insect repellent?



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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 1:11pm

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Yeah, total ignoramus here. Glad I've got you to school me, or I'd never catch up!


 Hey, bro! Us unprincipled, stupid cowards gotta stick together! Solidarity!

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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 10:46am

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My comment was about sponsors / sponsorship. Try paying attention for a change.

You had two comments, one aimed at the actual issue and the other an irrelevant poo-fling at the wall.

I posted the history to point out that it's quite clear how we got away from sponsored refugee resettlement, but the article I linked to wasn't explicit about when the end of privately-sponsored refugee resettlement came about. This article (that I posted earlier the same day) is explicit on that topic.

Sponsorship has come and gone thru our history. The refugee system in place now came about in legislation enacted between 1965 and 1980, which might explain why your civics class didn't get you up to speed on it. Ronald Reagan reintroduced sponsored refugee immigration after the 1980 act by executive order, which Clinton let lapse.

And no, it does not and never did have anything remotely to do with sanctuary cities.

Evidently you know nothing about it even though it has been a part of the immigration policy since basically day one of this country and still is. I was taught about it in school, in California for that matter, in both history and civics (civics is not taught anymore), as how the immigration process worked and why. It is a key part in assuring the success for a new immigrant into the country. Obviously it involves legal immigration. Something you find limiting and distasteful.

Yeah, total ignoramus here. Glad I've got you to school me, or I'd never catch up!

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Posted: Oct 28, 2021 - 8:25pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
 westslope wrote:
I would expect private sponsorship to lead to better rates of integration into local communities and broader American society.  
 

 kurtster wrote:
This is the way it used to work here.  How we got away from this is unclear.  Perhaps due to the creation of Sanctuary Cities.

OFFS.
 
Oh For Fuck Sakes back at you.

My comment was about sponsors / sponsorship.  Try paying attention for a change.

Your link only mentioned the word once in the entire article.

In the United States, Congress was so indifferent to the refugee crisis that it defeated a 1939 proposal that would have facilitated the migration of 20,000 children from Nazi Germany, even though all of the children had U.S. family sponsors.

That is it. One word.

Evidently you know nothing about it even though it has been a part of the immigration policy since basically day one of this country and still is.  I was taught about it in school, in California for that matter, in both history and civics (civics is not taught anymore), as how the immigration process worked and why.  It is a key part in assuring the success for a new immigrant into the country.  Obviously it involves legal immigration.  Something you find limiting and distasteful.

Here is some insight for you regarding sponsors and sponsorship regarding immigration into the United States.
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Posted: Oct 28, 2021 - 7:46pm

 kurtster wrote:
This is the way it used to work here.  How we got away from this is unclear.  Perhaps due to the creation of Sanctuary Cities.

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Posted: Oct 28, 2021 - 7:10pm

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This is the way it used to work here.  How we got away from this is unclear.  Perhaps due to the creation of Sanctuary Cities.

OFFS.
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Posted: Oct 28, 2021 - 7:03pm

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I would expect private sponsorship to lead to better rates of integration into local communities and broader American society.  
 
This is the way it used to work here.  How we got away from this is unclear.  Perhaps due to the creation of Sanctuary Cities.
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Posted: Oct 28, 2021 - 5:05pm

These Afghani refugees are special category refugees/immigrants.   They deserve special consideration and special support.  

People at the bottom, especially at the 'sharp end of the stick', should never be punished for dubious policy decisions taken at the top.
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Posted: Oct 28, 2021 - 4:52pm

I would expect private sponsorship to lead to better rates of integration into local communities and broader American society.  
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Posted: Oct 28, 2021 - 3:26pm

This is remarkably like this Niskanen Center proposal from a few months ago, which is a return to the process that brought my grandparents-in-law to the US after WW2.

The Government Has Struggled To Resettle Evacuated Afghans. A New Program Will Let Private Citizens Pick Up the Slack.

With tens of thousands of Afghans awaiting assistance, the initiative will capitalize on local knowledge and turn resettlement into a bottom-up process.
On Monday, the U.S. State Department announced that it would launch a private sponsorship program for evacuated Afghans.

Under the Sponsor Circle Program, private citizens will be able to help financially support and resettle evacuated Afghans in new communities across the country. Groups of at least five adults may apply to become sponsors. If they pass background checks, they then commit to raising enough money to support the designated family for up to 90 days. Once approved, groups are responsible for helping Afghans find housing, enroll in schools, and identify medical services.


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Posted: Oct 28, 2021 - 2:28pm



WASHINGTON—The Biden administration is in talks to offer immigrant families that were separated during the Trump administration around $450,000 a person in compensation, according to people familiar with the matter, as several agencies work to resolve lawsuits filed on behalf of parents and children who say the government subjected them to lasting psychological trauma.

The U.S. Departments of Justice, Homeland Security, and Health and Human Services are considering payments that could amount to close to $1 million a family, though the final numbers could shift, the people familiar with the matter said. Most of the families that crossed the border illegally from Mexico to seek asylum in the U.S. included one parent and one child, the people said. Many families would likely get smaller payouts, depending on their circumstances, the people said.

The American Civil Liberties Union, which represents families in one of the lawsuits, has identified about 5,500 children separated at the border over the course of the Trump administration, citing figures provided to it by the government. The number of families eligible under the potential settlement is expected to be smaller, the people said, as government officials aren’t sure how many will come forward. Around 940 claims have so far been filed by the families, the people said.

The total potential payout could be $1 billion or more.

As part of a so-called zero-tolerance enforcement policy, immigration agents separated thousands of children, ranging from infants to teenagers, from their parents at the southern border in 2018 after they had crossed illegally from Mexico to seek asylum in the U.S. In some cases families were forcefully broken up with no provisions to track and later reunite them, government investigations found. The lawsuits allege some of the children suffered from a range of ailments, including heat exhaustion and malnutrition, and were kept in freezing cold rooms and provided little medical attention.




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