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Or maybe I'm a dog who's lost its bite
I don't expect to be treated like a fool no more
I don't expect to sleep through the night
Some people say a lie's a lie's a lie
But I say why
Why deny the obvious child?
Why deny the obvious child?
And in remembering a road sign
I am remembering a girl when I was young
And we said, these songs are true
These days are ours
These tears are free
And hey
The cross is in the ballpark
The cross is in the ballpark
We had a lot of fun
We had a lot of money
We had a little son and we thought we'd call him Sonny
Sonny gets married and moves away
Sonny has a baby and bills to pay
Sonny gets sunnier
Day by day by day by day
I've been waking up at sunrise
I've been following the light across my room
I watch the night receive the room of my day
Some people say the sky is just the sky
But I say
Why deny the obvious child?
Why deny the obvious child?
Sonny sits by his window and thinks to himself
How it's strange that some rooms are like cages
Sonny's yearbook from high school
Is down from the shelf
And he idly thumbs through the pages
Some have died
Some have fled from themselves
Or struggled from here to get there
Sonny wanders beyond his interior walls
Runs his hand through his thinning brown hair
Well I'm accustomed to a smoother ride
Maybe I'm a dog that's lost his bite
I don't expect to be treated like a fool no more
I don't expect to sleep all night
Some people say a lie is just a lie
But I say the cross is in the ballpark
Why deny the obvious child?
If you watch the music video you will see member of the Brazilian drumming collective Olodum who were featured in the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Thank You for the info.
In this song, an intriguing phrase is repeated: "The cross is in the
ballpark." When asked of its meaning, Simon answered, "The cross, the
burden that we carry, is in the ballpark, it's doable."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
This is my desert island pick. A masterpiece.
Definitely one of my top 5 desert island picks. Always have preferred this one to Graceland.
The little editor inside me keeps poking at me saying "It should have a comma."
Why deny the obvious, child?
Otherwise it's about a paternity disagreement, right? (Are you denying your obvious child?) Only the title doesn't have a comma. So that's what it must be about. Why, Paul, why?
Completely changes the meaning of the song. All for the lack of a comma. Deliberate? Discuss.
The little editor inside me keeps poking at me saying "It should have a comma."
Why deny the obvious, child?
Otherwise it's about a paternity disagreement, right? (Are you denying your obvious child?) Only the title doesn't have a comma. So that's what it must be about. Why, Paul, why?
hahaha I needed a laugh today. I like the lyrics and percussion too
I've been following the light across my room
I watch the night receive the room of my day"
Solid 8
Why deny the obvious, child?
Otherwise it's about a paternity disagreement, right? (Are you denying your obvious child?) Only the title doesn't have a comma. So that's what it must be about. Why, Paul, why?
well, great. now I have to read the lyrics and figure this out.
Why deny the obvious, child?
Otherwise it's about a paternity disagreement, right? (Are you denying your obvious child?) Only the title doesn't have a comma. So that's what it must be about. Why, Paul, why?
And Art did??
I wish I could type the way he sings the word "young"
So Dragon, you're 4 years older...... feeling any different? Me either,,,, right there with you.
Graceland and then this album, it was good but. . .
Actually I prefer this album to Graceland.
It was amazing - GO IF YOU CAN.
Graceland and then this album, it was good but. . .
When the drumming starts in the intro, I'm always geared for "Matador" by "Los fabulosos Cadillacs". Although I like this Paul Simon song, "Matador" has this mixture of drumming and the strong flamenco-ish cry of Vicentico's voice really kicks me up from my chair to start dancing like a sambista in carnival.
Matador is a very fun song, although I'd pick PS if forced to choose. Then again, there's plenty of room for both!
Also the song where they sing a Christmas song and slowly Chet Huntley is giving the news and ends with the Vietnam dead. WOW! at that time it was radical. Today's standard she'd probably be fired, don't say anything controversial or make them think.
When the drumming starts in the intro, I'm always geared for "Matador" by "Los fabulosos Cadillacs". Although I like this Paul Simon song, "Matador" has this mixture of drumming and the strong flamenco-ish cry of Vicentico's voice really kicks me up from my chair to start dancing like a sambista in carnival.
I agree with most of this. I've hardly liked any of the songs he's put out since the S&G days (i.e., over the last 47 years). However, the S&G-era stuff is some of my favorite music of all time. Where have you gone, Paul Simon?
Jarring... but brilliant!
No rational critique from me on this one, I love it!
This is what happens when you combine intelligence with talent and nuance....
like the break with the quiet lyrics sliding into the rollicking re entry of drums full on...
Just fucking majestic, as we march lockstep into the 6th great extinction.
Why deny THE OBVIOUS, child? To see "the Bath Ring" of Lake Mead, to see the salty trickles in Imperial Valley — it's Sci-Fi SCARY!
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hayduke2 wrote:
Yup, absolutely : )
hey coloradojohn, this article in this weeks New Yorker had me thinking of you, maybe check it out, Hokahey Dude!
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/05/25/the-disappearing-riverA Reporter at Large MAY 25, 2015 ISSUEWhere the River Runs DryThe Colorado and America’s water crisis.
Yup, absolutely : )
hey coloradojohn, this article in this weeks New Yorker had me thinking of you, maybe check it out, Hokahey Dude!
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/05/25/the-disappearing-riverA Reporter at Large MAY 25, 2015 ISSUEWhere the River Runs DryThe Colorado and America’s water crisis.
check out the similarity to Los Fabulosos Cadillacs - Matador
https://vimeo.com/36102596
Thank you... everybody in my alien space craft loves this song... we be dancing buck naked and cross-eyed like Willy Shakes...
This is my baby son's favourite song!
My son's favorite song when he was a baby was Parliament's "Flashlight." A good backbeat gets babies groovin'.
You're not listening then, you've decided something and won't let the music through. There is very little to compare between Graceland and this...I appreciate your loss for a duo that was amazing, but let the music work it's way in, you'll find great things.
Yeah I would have agreed with the first post even just a few years ago. I guess as you said, it worked its way in through my years of RP listening. Now I'm always pleased when he comes on.
You're not listening then, you've decided something and won't let the music through. There is very little to compare between Graceland and this...I appreciate your loss for a duo that was amazing, but let the music work it's way in, you'll find great things.
Now that's just crazy talk.
4th.
I'd rather hear just them.
Try listening to the lyrics as well. It might open your mind a bit. How dull would this song actually be if it were nothing but the drums? None of the heart of the song would be there just the beat, which is amazing, but only half the experience.
Walked down the same steps you see in the video and heard drums from somewhere nearby. Found the group which backed Simon on this track giving free lessons in an upper floor of a day school.
Olodum, Salvador do Bahia, Brazil.
FABULOUS.
This is my baby son's favourite song!
You should introduce him to Los Fabulosos Cadillacs' song "Matador" - he'll go absolutely wild.
Everybody in my church be dancing... love it...
This is my baby son's favourite song!
There is a difference, you know, between a marching band and the ridiculously talented group that invented samba.
one hell of a rebound on the long rolls for a brush...
Olodum really 'live' their music. Neither they, nor their audience, can stand still.
Tight stretched marching snare drum beaten with metal whisks; 32" bass drum with cloth mallets.
one hell of a rebound on the long rolls for a brush...
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coloradojohn wrote:
....uh oh, the fix is in.
If you like listening to a marching band.
Tight stretched marching snare drum beaten with metal whisks; 32" bass drum with cloth mallets.
This song is especially poignant and beautiful.
I'll third that. Wholeheartedly.
4th.
I'd rather hear just them.
I'll third that. Wholeheartedly.
It's Olodum who hail from Salvador de Bahia in Brazil, saw them doing a dance class there by pure chance.
8.
Thanks for chiming in, sunshine. How's the gang in Wasilla today, anyway?
ahh...
It's always great to hear this one again.
Actually, the drum track was recorded on 8 track, live on a Brazillian street. It was a performance by a drum troupe called OLODUM. He wrote the song and fitted it to the drums later.
Paul explains the process here
https://www.thedreamerofmusic.com/how%20was/h1/h1.htm
Saw Olodum drumming for a dance class in a studio, then perform live in a procession in the streets of Salvador do Bahia, Brazil. That was an experience, made all the better by two mid-teen girls from an 'all-dressed in white' school dance troupe goofing about in the back row doing double steps and swivel hip moves long before Madonna even thought of them. Spectacular!
Turn it up! Tap your toes!
That's 'cause his drummer is frequently this man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Gadd
Listen to Simon's 'Late in the Evening' for an outstanding example of his work.
Turn it up! Tap your toes!
Listening to this song is good for the ears...
You sound like a one-line robot. Do you not think?
and I on the other hand am debating on whether to push this over to a nine. This concert tour gave an incredible show. Big, big (big) band. Plus LBM, who(m?) I'm kind of tired of soundwise, but they sparkled that night.
If I remember it correctly, it was quite the other way round - the tape was sent to South America and the percussion was added then and there. Oh, and it works for me! One of the few songs that I never mastered playing on guitar (of those I tried though).
As I grow as a musician, I realise more and more how excellent Mr. Simon ist, though I always digged his music.
Actually, the drum track was recorded on 8 track, live on a Brazillian street. It was a performance by a drum troupe called OLODUM. He wrote the song and fitted it to the drums later.
Paul explains the process here
https://www.thedreamerofmusic.com/how%20was/h1/h1.htm
It's like saying Peter Gabriel was better off with Phil.... Nah, I knew you'd come around
Now, that's funny!
If I remember it correctly, it was quite the other way round - the tape was sent to South America and the percussion was added then and there. Oh, and it works for me! One of the few songs that I never mastered playing on guitar (of those I tried though).
As I grow as a musician, I realise more and more how excellent Mr. Simon ist, though I always digged his music.
It's like saying Peter Gabriel was better off with Phil.... Nah, I knew you'd come around
Is down from the shelf
And he idly thumbs through the pages
Some have died
Some have fled from themselves
Or struggled from here to get there
Sonny wanders beyond his interior walls
Runs his hand through his thinning brown hair"
.
I have always found that compelling. Simon's an artist of words and music.
I agree. Paul Simon is an incredible all round musician.
...of course, i'm always taken by brian eno productions, even when i'm not aware of his involvement...
If you want to dig deeper (or learn what it means to others) just follow the Song Info (Song Meanings) link above and you'll find a fascinating discussion, including this quote (allegedly from the man who wrote the song): "...When asked of its meaning, Simon answered, "The cross, the burden that we carry, is in the ballpark, it's doable."...".
check it out
Damp Carpet (youtube.com)