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DaveInVA

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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 8:01am

I also always use "request return receipt" on any important email. That way if I get the receipt and they claim they never got it I'll know different. And if you never get the receipt you can assume they didn't.
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Posted: May 11, 2010 - 7:52am

There are legitimate problems but I also think email is an excuse for some people who are lazy or forgot to send the email..

"I sent that email" - you really have no way to check if the person sent the email other than their word.

I have "caught" several people I work with by asking them to resend it and then find material in the email that is dated so it couldn't possibly be sent on the original date.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 6:44pm

 rosedraws wrote:

And if I find a fix, I'll have to somehow launch a global campaign which spells out the steps in plain English so that people like the retired ladies on town committees, and my MOM can figure out how to do it!



There's something borked with the system...  

 
I'm talking about an ISP that subscribes to a service to learn which emails to filter. Find that service and get off the spam list for lots of ISPs. This could be way out of date, I think it's been 5 years for me. But once I got thru filling out their form and they okay'd it, I didn't have a problem anymore.

islander

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 6:42pm

 rosedraws wrote:

And if I find a fix, I'll have to somehow launch a global campaign which spells out the steps in plain English so that people like the retired ladies on town committees, and my MOM can figure out how to do it!



There's something borked with the system...  

 
just a guess, but this might help: http://www.comcastblacklist.com/?page_id=6

Red_Dragon

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 6:41pm

I have a primary account thru my ISP that I have virtually no problems with.  I also have one on yahoo and another on google... I can't remember the password for either of them. {#Shifty}
islander

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 6:41pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Ah.

You can have gmail look like it came from you@yourdomain... but the blocked thing, there's a place to contest the blockage somewhere... sort of a clearinghouse. I had to do it once and it seemed to work... long time ago tho, so... not sure where to look now.
 
Unless it's comcast... Then you just fill out their form and rant at them, then wait a few weeks and repeat when they muck it up again.

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 6:39pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Ah.

You can have gmail look like it came from you@yourdomain... but the blocked thing, there's a place to contest the blockage somewhere... sort of a clearinghouse. I had to do it once and it seemed to work... long time ago tho, so... not sure where to look now.
 
And if I find a fix, I'll have to somehow launch a global campaign which spells out the steps in plain English so that people like the retired ladies on town committees, and my MOM can figure out how to do it!



There's something borked with the system...  
islander

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 6:38pm

 hobiejoe wrote:
I forsee "Premium E-mail Guaranteed Delivery™" for the low, low price of... &tc coming along fairly soon.
 
Nothing the bizness world hates more than seeing stuff that people like and enjoy and need without the fatcats taking the cream off the top.

 
Maybe, but it won't be any of the standards based mail we have today, and so it will have issues. The thing that makes e-mail (and the internet in general) great is that it's an open field. Anyone can play if you just follow the standards. That unfortunately opens it up to people who will abuse the system.

I run an ISP and we have had customers who are Spammers. We shut them down when they violate the rules, but it is hard to monitor and parse all the time. When we take actions they make new strategies. Refer back to my previous posts for some of the nitty gritty. There are legitimate mass marketers, but not too many and the bad guys make the most noise. There are bad ISPs as well < cough > Comcast < cough >. It's a constant effort to keep the system working right with asshats on both sides trying to munge things up in the name of a nickle.

rosedraws

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 6:38pm

 hobiejoe wrote:
I forsee "Premium E-mail Guaranteed Delivery™" for the low, low price of... &tc coming along fairly soon.
 
AHA!  The future is NOW!

http://www.emailreach.com
DaveInVA

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 6:36pm

 rosedraws wrote:

Ooh!  Won't that work?    wait, no... The problem is not spam.  The problem is ISP blocking emails from my domain.

It's pretty important to have my domain as the "from" when I send mail... which means it's there, and ISPs block it.

I went through a huge turnover about 5 years ago when my small, local ISP was hacked, and I had to change my outgoing email from "rose@" to "contact@".  This REALLY confused people.

And now, since the domain is what gets flagged, I cant just change the name, I'd have to change the domain... and that's just not right, 'cause it's the most awesomest domain ever.  

I could try changing my outgoing to "info@"  or "diva@" or something...  But I've had "rose@" for, like, 13 years now...  

 
That didn't work for me. They blocked everythinh from my domain name...

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 6:35pm

 rosedraws wrote:

Ooh!  Won't that work?    wait, no... The problem is not spam.  The problem is ISP blocking emails from my domain.

It's pretty important to have my domain as the "from" when I send mail... which means it's there, and ISPs block it.

I went through a huge turnover about 5 years ago when my small, local ISP was hacked, and I had to change my outgoing email from "rose@" to "contact@".  This REALLY confused people.

And now, since the domain is what gets flagged, I cant just change the name, I'd have to change the domain... and that's just not right, 'cause it's the most awesomest domain ever.  

I could try changing my outgoing to "info@"  or "diva@" or something...  But I've had "rose@" for, like, 13 years now...  

 
Ah.

You can have gmail look like it came from you@yourdomain... but the blocked thing, there's a place to contest the blockage somewhere... sort of a clearinghouse. I had to do it once and it seemed to work... long time ago tho, so... not sure where to look now.

rosedraws

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 6:32pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

I know people have issues with gmail but I don't, except that it's not as instantaneous as email should be? But anyway you can have it handle your illustration.you email and no one will know. And it's a shocker when I get spam.
 
Ooh!  Won't that work?    wait, no... The problem is not spam.  The problem is ISP blocking emails from my domain.

It's pretty important to have my domain as the "from" when I send mail... which means it's there, and ISPs block it.

I went through a huge turnover about 5 years ago when my small, local ISP was hacked, and I had to change my outgoing email from "rose@" to "contact@".  This REALLY confused people.

And now, since the domain is what gets flagged, I cant just change the name, I'd have to change the domain... and that's just not right, 'cause it's the most awesomest domain ever.  

I could try changing my outgoing to "info@"  or "diva@" or something...  But I've had "rose@" for, like, 13 years now...  
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 6:25pm

 rosedraws wrote:

I would totally pay for that.

 
I know people have issues with gmail but I don't, except that it's not as instantaneous as email should be? But anyway you can have it handle your illustration.you email and no one will know. And it's a shocker when I get spam.

rosedraws

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 5:34pm

 hobiejoe wrote:
I forsee "Premium E-mail Guaranteed Delivery™" for the low, low price of... &tc coming along fairly soon.
 
I would totally pay for that.
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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 5:16pm

 hobiejoe wrote:
I forsee "Premium E-mail Guaranteed Delivery™" for the low, low price of... &tc coming along fairly soon.
 
Nohing the bizness world hates more than seeing stuff that people like and enjoy and need without the fatcats taking the cream off the top.

 
Yep, just a matter of time. Reason 327 to get the hell off the grid for good.

hobiejoe

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 5:14pm

I forsee "Premium E-mail Guaranteed Delivery™" for the low, low price of... &tc coming along fairly soon.
 
Nothing the bizness world hates more than seeing stuff that people like and enjoy and need without the fatcats taking the cream off the top.


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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 5:06pm

email is so SLOW

texting is the way that people communicate now

cul8r
DaveInVA

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 4:36pm

 Zep wrote:
Ha! 

I wish the question were,

Can Email be deleted
 

 
Yes, but it will keep coming back...

Zep

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 4:34pm

Ha! 

I wish the question were,

Can Email be deleted
 
GeneP59

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Posted: May 10, 2010 - 10:42am


This has been happening to me as well with legitimate email addresses being blocked by my ISP. My excite email account has declared Borders.com and Bank of America.com as spammers. OK I can see that later {#Lol}, but all I used to do was go into the Junk Mail box and un-classify them as legit. Now I don't even get them delivered to that box anymore.

WTFF!

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