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NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Dec 9, 2021 - 2:46pm

 westslope wrote:
Nothing kills and destroys like tobacco.   It is the gateway drug bar none, assuming there is such a thing as gateway drug.

I always reckoned that a just War on Drugs would start by putting tobacco smoking parents in jail for as long as it takes to cure them of the addiction.

But if ever higher excise taxes are creating black market opportunities, that is not good.
 
Perhaps the NZ government should educate the public that tobacco smoking signals low socio-economic status?    Certainly here in North America, folks of high socio-economic status have either stayed from or quit tobacco in droves. It is folks of low socio-economic who continue to smoke and take up tobacco.

As many people simply do not care about health outcomes, perhaps prodding them about socio-economic status will work instead. 
 
That is precisely the demographic they are targeting.
westslope

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Posted: Dec 9, 2021 - 11:39am

Nothing kills and destroys like tobacco.   It is the gateway drug bar none, assuming there is such a thing as a gateway drug.

I always reckoned that a just War on Drugs would start by putting tobacco smoking parents in jail for as long as it takes to cure them of the addiction.

But if ever higher excise taxes are creating black market opportunities, that is not good.

Perhaps the NZ government should educate the public that tobacco smoking signals low socio-economic status?    Certainly here in North America, folks of high socio-economic status have either stayed away from or quit tobacco in droves. It is folks of low socio-economic who continue to smoke and take up tobacco.

As many people simply do not care about health outcomes, perhaps prodding them about socio-economic status will work instead. 


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Posted: Dec 9, 2021 - 11:18am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
apparently there's a black market/underground tobacco ring...this is from 2018

Government losing up to $182m over illicit tobacco

There is up to NZ$182 million that the New Zealand Government could recoup from illicit tobacco. Research conducted by KPMG’s UK firm highlighted in their Illicit Tobacco in New Zealand 2017 Full Year Report has revealed that illegal tobacco – as a percentage of total tobacco consumption was around 9% in 2017. KPMG in the UK estimates that if this illicit tobacco had been sold legally, it would have generated about NZ$182 million in tobacco excise for the Government.

Imperial Tobacco New Zealand’s General Manager, Sam Abbott said that closer monitoring and enforcement both at the border and in retail is required to stop illegal products entering the market.

“We believe the aggressive 8 years of consecutive tobacco excise increases have contributed to this alarming figure. The attractiveness of the illicit market will continue to grow over the next two years, as further legislated annual 10% increases on tobacco excise drive the legitimate market retail prices higher,” said Mr Abbott.

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Posted: Dec 9, 2021 - 10:37am

 Red_Dragon wrote:



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Posted: Dec 9, 2021 - 9:46am

 sunybuny wrote:



Yea them.


Fantastic.
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Posted: Dec 9, 2021 - 8:48am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Yea them.
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Posted: Dec 9, 2021 - 8:28am

New Zealand to ban cigarette sales for future generations
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Posted: Nov 4, 2021 - 4:35pm

 Manbird wrote:


... she said with her gaping bazzilica


How DARE you!
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Posted: Nov 4, 2021 - 2:19pm

 BlueHeronDruid wrote:



You just want all the pongy taste to yourself, Mird.



... she said with her gaping bazzilica
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Posted: Nov 4, 2021 - 1:32pm

 Manbird wrote:


Why don't they put a diaper on the little guy? Also they should test him for covid. Just to be safe. Mask up!



You just want all the pongy taste to yourself, Mird.

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Posted: Nov 4, 2021 - 11:46am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

Why don't they put a diaper on the little guy? Also they should test him for covid. Just to be safe. Mask up!
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Doug the ugly New Zealand potato could be world’s biggest
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New Zealand strait crossed for first time by electric plane
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Posted: Mar 4, 2021 - 1:06pm



 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

That sounds about right - without any public discussion, you suddenly find our SAS dying on special ops in Afghanistan, etc. 
Though why the Four Eyes bother with NZ as a fifth eye beats me. We don't have the resources and even geographical location hardly cuts it, as Australia covers that too. 

The rationale from NZ's perspective makes much more sense. We are closely tied to Australia, are worried about growing Chinese hegemony in the Pacific region, generally share the same values, etc. Yet we get to pretend that we are some kind of strong independent voice for small nations on the world stage. Pretty fine line the NZ govt. is walking there.  
 
Yeah, you make almost as good cannon-fodder as the Aussies and Canucks, but there are hardly enough of you to bother. Australia should be walking a fine line between the US and our major trading partner, China, but the current government went all-in for Trump and we are suffering for it.

westslope

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021 - 12:40pm



 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

That sounds about right - without any public discussion, you suddenly find our SAS dying on special ops in Afghanistan, etc. 
Though why the Four Eyes bother with NZ as a fifth eye beats me. We don't have the resources and even geographical location hardly cuts it, as Australia covers that too. 

The rationale from NZ's perspective makes much more sense. We are closely tied to Australia, are worried about growing Chinese hegemony in the Pacific region, generally share the same values, etc. Yet we get to pretend that we are some kind of strong independent voice for small nations on the world stage. Pretty fine line the NZ govt. is walking there.  
 
Armed and neutral Sweden and Finland walk that line all the time.

China poses zero threat to New Zealand but that is another discussion.

NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021 - 11:28am

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On a serious note:  As long as New Zealand and US intelligence are cooperating closely, there is no risk of a cold war or invasion.  In other words, there is what is reported in the newspapers for public consumption and there is what is going on in the background that really matters.  
 
That sounds about right - without any public discussion, you suddenly find our SAS dying on special ops in Afghanistan, etc. 
Though why the Four Eyes bother with NZ as a fifth eye beats me. We don't have the resources and even geographical location hardly cuts it, as Australia covers that too. 

The rationale from NZ's perspective makes much more sense. We are closely tied to Australia, are worried about growing Chinese hegemony in the Pacific region, generally share the same values, etc. Yet we get to pretend that we are some kind of strong independent voice for small nations on the world stage. Pretty fine line the NZ govt. is walking there.  
westslope

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021 - 9:18am



 haresfur wrote:


 R_P wrote:
.....
 
And still no U.S. invasion...

 
Won't happen. New Zealand has many doomsday properties for the uber-rich and the Americans wouldn't do anything to jeopardize their safe-haven. 

 

Yeah.....    New Zealand seems to enjoy a soft spot in the hearts of  Americans of higher socio-economic status.   (The rest might have trouble finding the country on the map.)

On a serious note:  As long as New Zealand and US intelligence are cooperating closely, there is no risk of a cold war or invasion.  In other words, there is what is reported in the newspapers for public consumption and there is what is going on in the background that really matters.  
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Posted: Mar 4, 2021 - 8:26am



 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

no panic.. should be about a meter and it's the middle of the night.

let's wait for daylight and some local reporting. 


Tsunami threat passes, evacuees can return home.

 

NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021 - 8:10am

 Ohmsen wrote: 
no panic.. should be about a meter and it's the middle of the night.

let's wait for daylight and some local reporting. 
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