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Posted: Jul 23, 2020 - 7:23am



 sirdroseph wrote:
Is he trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?  The light that shines for more parties cannot possibly burn any brighter than this year.  Someone needs a history lesson stat!
{#Eek}


Joe Biden calls Trump the country's 'first' racist president



"The way he deals with people based on the color of their skin, their national origin, where they’re from, is absolutely sickening,” the former vice president said. “No sitting president has ever done this. Never, never, never. No Republican president has done this. No Democratic president. We’ve had racists, and they’ve existed. They’ve tried to get elected president. He’s the first one that has.”

Jeezus Joe, you knew a lot of them personally.
{#Lol}
 
oh joe. why? just sit there, enjoy your ensure, and stfu please.

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Posted: Jul 23, 2020 - 5:15am

Is he trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory??  The light that shines for more parties cannot possibly burn any brighter than this year.  Someone needs a history lesson stat!{#Eek}

Joe Biden calls Trump the country's 'first' racist president



"The way he deals with people based on the color of their skin, their national origin, where they’re from, is absolutely sickening,” the former vice president said. “No sitting president has ever done this. Never, never, never. No Republican president has done this. No Democratic president. We’ve had racists, and they’ve existed. They’ve tried to get elected president. He’s the first one that has.”

Jeezus Joe, you knew a lot of them personally.{#Lol}
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Posted: Jul 22, 2020 - 12:24pm



 Isabeau wrote:
President: Generally the Diplomatic Representative of the Nation to other Nations, a figurehead.
VP: Generally stays in the background, supportive (not fawning) of the President and that party's agenda.

The REAL Sausage, as the American people are becoming aware, is made in Congress and the Courts.
A Barbie or Ken paper doll would do a better job than butt bulbs dumpty.

Actually, I'm looking forward to a President sitting in a chair without looking like he's practicing his potty training.
 
Yeah, except that Congress in general, and McConnell in particular, have abdicated any semblance of actual governing. Any Democrat-sponsored policy, no matter how trivial, no matter how much public support it has, dies under Mitch's gavel. Sure there's always been partisanship, but McConnell has taken it to the extremes. Which prevents anything from moving forward.
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Posted: Jul 21, 2020 - 3:29pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:


 kcar wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
You might be getting a little worried about Joe when someone like Leo Terrell publicly and empathically says he's voting for Trump.

I saw him on a televised segment this evening stating his support for Trump in no uncertain terms.
 

You might be getting a little worried about Joe when someone like Leo Terrell David Duke publicly and empathically says he's voting for Trump.

Granted the KKK apparently hasn't officially endorsed Trump but Duke, a former Klan leader has endorsed Trump again in 2020.

David Duke: Trump win a great victory for 'our people'







"Why we voted for Donald Trump": David Duke explains the white supremacist Charlottesville protests



By Libby Nelson@libbyanelson

Updated Aug 12, 2017, 3:16pm EDT

David Duke, the former KKK grand wizard, is unambiguous about what Saturday’s alt-right and neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, means to him: It’s the fulfillment of President Donald Trump’s vision for America.

“We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said from the rally, calling it a “turning point.” “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.”
The Charlottesville rally is nominally about the removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee rather than anything in the Trump administration. But Duke was an enthusiastic supporter of Trump as far back as the Republican primary in 2016, and Trump’s reluctance to disavow that support was, briefly, a big issue.

Duke has remained a faithful Trump supporter since then, insisting that the president-elect’s policies line up with the former KKK leader’s vision for America.




 

You're equating the impressive civil rights work & influence of Leo Terrell to ... the white supremacist David Duke with his infinitesimal group of illiterates?

You just the lost the argument.  And you win a prize.




Oh, KK. I can't give you a Ronald McDonald gif this time. You're living proof that there's no cure for stupid. Maybe you should volunteer for Kanye's campaign!



1. For every good celebrity endorsement of a candidate, you'll find at least one bad one. You think Leo Terrell's a good endorsement for Trump? White supremacist David Duke wants Trump again.

2. Leo Terrell's done "impressive civil rights work"? That's news to the NAACP. From Wikipedia:


Terrell became a member of the NAACP in 1990 and did pro bono legal work for the organization. After Terrell expressed support for Carolyn Kuhl, a judge nominated by President George W. Bush to the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit whose nomination was filibustered in the U.S. Senate, Terrell left the NAACP and accused the organization of "bullying" him out. NAACP Washington, D.C. office director Hilary O. Shelton responded: "He’s not an NAACP lawyer, not even a former NAACP lawyer. He’s done volunteer work for us, which we appreciate. But when he takes a position that is diametrically opposite from our position, he’s not speaking for us."<12>


3. Here's Leo on Hannity, whining about how the Democratic Party has left him. If he really thinks Trump is going to push social justice or civil rights measures better than the Democratic party, Leo's a goddamned fool. And to call Joe Biden a socialist is beyond laughable.

4. Again, going off the Hannity clip: Leo Terrell sounds a lot like a right-wing apologist. Hardly someone who's typical of civil rights lawyers or Black voters. But don't just take my word for it: 


Know who’s not convinced of how much Trump has done for black Americans? Black Americans.

This focus on black voters has been a repeated theme in his tweets and in his campaign’s outreach as well. It also hasn’t made any dent in his level of support among black Americans.

I can say this with certainty because The Washington Post, in partnership with the polling firm Ipsos, polled black Americans in January and this month, asking questions evaluating views of the country and of the president. Between those two polls, despite the barrage of rhetoric from Trump in the interim, views about the president haven’t changed significantly at all.

In January, 7 percent of black Americans viewed Trump with approval. Three-quarters viewed him with strong disapproval. This month, 9 percent approve of Trump and three-quarters view him with strong disapproval.

In January, 83 percent of black Americans told us that they viewed Trump as racist. This month, we asked a slightly different question: Is Trump biased against black people? Eighty-seven percent of respondents said he is.

There’s certainly an argument to be made that Trump’s repeated mentions of what he has done for black Americans is meant not to convince them to vote for him but to convince white voters more broadly that he isn’t racist or biased. If that’s the case, it’s an effort that almost has to be going better than any effort to earn more black votes.

At the time of that January poll, Biden wasn’t yet his party’s presumptive nominee. He was one of more than a dozen Democrats vying for that role, which he secured in early March. Our January poll asked about a theoretical contest between him and Trump, in which Biden prevailed by a wide margin among black registered voters — 78 points. Only 4 percent picked Trump, though 6 percent said they wouldn’t cast a vote at all.

The June poll asked the question again, without explicit options for not voting or preference for another candidate — both of which were included in January given the ongoing primary. (Five percent said they would vote for another candidate at that point.) Now, Biden leads by 87 points. Trump still gets only 5 percent of the vote, an insignificant difference from January.

How many black Americans don’t plan on voting? We asked about that, too. In January, 8 in 10 said they were probably going to vote or were certain to vote. In June, the figure was essentially unchanged.

The extent to which Trump has failed to convince black Americans of the success of his presidency can be summed up in two poll questions, one from each of our two polls this year. The central argument he has made to black voters for giving him a second term is that he will steward robust economic growth, an argument that got kneecapped more than a little by the coronavirus pandemic.

In January, we asked respondents how much credit Trump deserved for the then-low unemployment in the black community. About three-quarters said Trump deserved only some or hardly any credit for the unemployment rate.

This month, we asked a more specific question: Who did respondents think would do a better job on the economy? Despite Trump’s focus on the issue, black voters said they trusted Biden more than Trump on the economy by an 11-to-1 margin. Eighty-six percent of respondents said the economy would be a very important issue in their vote for president. Grim numbers for a president who has repeatedly focused on the economy as a sales pitch.


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Posted: Jul 21, 2020 - 3:21pm

President: Generally the Diplomatic Representative of the Nation to other Nations, a figurehead.
VP: Generally stays in the background, supportive (not fawning) of the President and that party's agenda.

The REAL Sausage, as the American people are becoming aware, is made in Congress and the Courts.
A Barbie or Ken paper doll would do a better job than butt bulbs dumpty.

Actually, I'm looking forward to a President sitting in a chair without looking like he's practicing his potty training.
KarmaKarma

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Posted: Jul 21, 2020 - 2:14pm



 kcar wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
You might be getting a little worried about Joe when someone like Leo Terrell publicly and empathically says he's voting for Trump.

I saw him on a televised segment this evening stating his support for Trump in no uncertain terms.
 

You might be getting a little worried about Joe when someone like Leo Terrell David Duke publicly and empathically says he's voting for Trump.

Granted the KKK apparently hasn't officially endorsed Trump but Duke, a former Klan leader has endorsed Trump again in 2020.

David Duke: Trump win a great victory for 'our people'







"Why we voted for Donald Trump": David Duke explains the white supremacist Charlottesville protests



By Libby Nelson@libbyanelson

Updated Aug 12, 2017, 3:16pm EDT

David Duke, the former KKK grand wizard, is unambiguous about what Saturday’s alt-right and neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, means to him: It’s the fulfillment of President Donald Trump’s vision for America.

“We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said from the rally, calling it a “turning point.” “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.”
The Charlottesville rally is nominally about the removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee rather than anything in the Trump administration. But Duke was an enthusiastic supporter of Trump as far back as the Republican primary in 2016, and Trump’s reluctance to disavow that support was, briefly, a big issue.

Duke has remained a faithful Trump supporter since then, insisting that the president-elect’s policies line up with the former KKK leader’s vision for America.




 

You're equating the impressive civil rights work & influence of Leo Terrell to ... the white supremacist David Duke with his infinitesimal group of illiterates?

You just the lost the argument.  And you win a prize.


kcar

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Posted: Jul 21, 2020 - 1:06pm



 kurtster wrote:
You might be getting a little worried about Joe when someone like Leo Terrell publicly and empathically says he's voting for Trump.

I saw him on a televised segment this evening stating his support for Trump in no uncertain terms.
 

You might be getting a little worried about Joe when someone like Leo Terrell David Duke publicly and empathically says he's voting for Trump.

Granted the KKK apparently hasn't officially endorsed Trump but Duke, a former Klan leader has endorsed Trump again in 2020.

David Duke: Trump win a great victory for 'our people'







"Why we voted for Donald Trump": David Duke explains the white supremacist Charlottesville protests



By Libby Nelson@libbyanelson

Updated Aug 12, 2017, 3:16pm EDT

David Duke, the former KKK grand wizard, is unambiguous about what Saturday’s alt-right and neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, means to him: It’s the fulfillment of President Donald Trump’s vision for America.

“We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said from the rally, calling it a “turning point.” “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.”

The Charlottesville rally is nominally about the removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee rather than anything in the Trump administration. But Duke was an enthusiastic supporter of Trump as far back as the Republican primary in 2016, and Trump’s reluctance to disavow that support was, briefly, a big issue.

Duke has remained a faithful Trump supporter since then, insisting that the president-elect’s policies line up with the former KKK leader’s vision for America.


rgio

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Posted: Jul 21, 2020 - 5:56am



 kurtster wrote:
You might be getting a little worried about Joe when someone like Leo Terrell publicly and empathically says he's voting for Trump.

I saw him on a televised segment this evening stating his support for Trump in no uncertain terms.
 
This is exactly why your boy has no shot.

You actually have to know something is going on to worry about it.   Saying something negative about Joe Biden on Fox News changes not one vote.  Joe Biden himself could go on Fox and say "Don't vote for me"....and nothing would change.

The one person who could change votes can't get out of his own way.  You know the guy....the one who is now calling wearing a mask an act of patriotism.  What a buffoon.
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Posted: Jul 21, 2020 - 4:05am



 kurtster wrote:
You might be getting a little worried about Joe when someone like Leo Terrell publicly and empathically says he's voting for Trump.

I saw him on a televised segment this evening stating his support for Trump in no uncertain terms.
 
Empathically? Sounds like voter fraud to me!

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Posted: Jul 21, 2020 - 1:56am

 kurtster wrote:
I saw him on a televised segment this evening (...)
 
Been sniffin' Fox again?
kurtster

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Posted: Jul 21, 2020 - 1:29am

You might be getting a little worried about Joe when someone like Leo Terrell publicly and empathically says he's voting for Trump.

I saw him on a televised segment this evening stating his support for Trump in no uncertain terms.
kcar

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Posted: Jul 14, 2020 - 7:40pm



 maryte wrote:


 buddy wrote:


 Steely_D wrote:


 buddy wrote:


If you're asking me to believe one of the preeminent experts in the field or politicians and posters on this site, I'm betting my health & safety on Dr. Fauci. 
 

What? You think he knows more than a failed real estate salesman and reality TV star? The hell you say. That doesn't make ANY sense.
 

My apologies, I didn't have all the late-breaking facts.
 

I read this as "...all the late-breaking farts."


I think it's time for a whisky.
 





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Posted: Jul 14, 2020 - 6:14pm



 buddy wrote:


 Steely_D wrote:


 buddy wrote:


If you're asking me to believe one of the preeminent experts in the field or politicians and posters on this site, I'm betting my health & safety on Dr. Fauci. 
 

What? You think he knows more than a failed real estate salesman and reality TV star? The hell you say. That doesn't make ANY sense.
 

My apologies, I didn't have all the late-breaking facts.
 

I read this as "...all the late-breaking farts."


I think it's time for a whisky.
buddy

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Posted: Jul 14, 2020 - 5:52pm



 Steely_D wrote:


 buddy wrote:


If you're asking me to believe one of the preeminent experts in the field or politicians and posters on this site, I'm betting my health & safety on Dr. Fauci. 
 

What? You think he knows more than a failed real estate salesman and reality TV star? The hell you say. That doesn't make ANY sense.
 

My apologies, I didn't have all the late-breaking facts.
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Posted: Jul 14, 2020 - 4:52pm

“Donald Trump needs to spend less time playing golf and more time listening to experts like Dr. Fauci.”
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Posted: Jul 14, 2020 - 4:41pm



 buddy wrote:


If you're asking me to believe one of the preeminent experts in the field or politicians and posters on this site, I'm betting my health & safety on Dr. Fauci. 
 

What? You think he knows more than a failed real estate salesman and reality TV star? The hell you say. That doesn't make ANY sense.
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Posted: Jul 14, 2020 - 4:39pm



 haresfur wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Says those who say there is such a thing as "settled science".  There is no such thing.  Never has that been so clear as now ...
 
You seem to be saying two things. We shouldn't base our policy and actions on the best science available, because it is not "settled", and Fauci is a liar because he made statements on his understanding of the best course of action based on the available science but then adapted based on new understanding.

The alternative is to base policy on what Trump decides is politically convenient and nevermind his falsehoods which have no basis in reality.

 

I don't disagree that there is no such thing as 'settled science', but there is such a thing as the best scientific understanding available. I find it irresponsible to throw out all science, or more specifically, the science one chooses to not to believe, in order to support one's political view / agenda.

If scientists who stand on the best, most proven scientific knowledge available, and are not allowed to amend their stance when new, more proven information becomes available, we'd all still be debating whether the Earth is flat & also the center of the universe. 

Fauci was put out front on the hot seat to try to explain & make sense of what was happening in real time and what to do about it as it was unfolding & did so with all candor & authority based on a lifetime of experience in the field and the best available knowledge of a novel virus at the time.  Even then he made caveats about what could happen if things changed and/or a clearer understanding became evident (which was conveniently cropped out of Trump's "mistake list").  When things did evolve & as a better understanding became clear, he put it out there, on a daily basis.  

If you're asking me to believe one of the preeminent experts in the field or politicians and posters on this site, I'm betting my health & safety on Dr. Fauci. 
kcar

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Posted: Jul 14, 2020 - 4:33pm



 haresfur wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Says those who say there is such a thing as "settled science".  There is no such thing.  Never has that been so clear as now ...
 
You seem to be saying two things. We shouldn't base our policy and actions on the best science available, because it is not "settled", and Fauci is a liar because he made statements on his understanding of the best course of action based on the available science but then adapted based on new understanding.

The alternative is to base policy on what Trump decides is politically convenient and nevermind his falsehoods which have no basis in reality.

 

"The alternative is to base policy on what Trump decides is politically convenient and nevermind his falsehoods which have no basis in reality."


And here we are.

I'm tempted to start a betting pool about the date on which we'll have to go back into national lockdown...
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Posted: Jul 14, 2020 - 3:54pm



 kurtster wrote:

Says those who say there is such a thing as "settled science".  There is no such thing.  Never has that been so clear as now ...
 
You seem to be saying two things. We shouldn't base our policy and actions on the best science available, because it is not "settled", and Fauci is a liar because he made statements on his understanding of the best course of action based on the available science but then adapted based on new understanding.

The alternative is to base policy on what Trump decides is politically convenient and nevermind his falsehoods which have no basis in reality.

kcar

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Posted: Jul 14, 2020 - 3:16pm



 kurtster wrote:

Says those who say there is such a thing as "settled science".  There is no such thing.  Never has that been so clear as now ...
 

Oh, honey. If only you'd make sense more often. You're not doing it here. 

Maybe we should dig up Isaac Newton and get him back to work. 

Or, hey! You could parrot AGAIN  Rush Limbaugh's complaint about climate change research and how people kept stating it's "settled science." You set a new low even for yourself with those posts. Didn't they have pictures of Hitler Youth parades in them? 
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