If anyone wants to have an actual discussion about what constitutes a real threat to democracy, watch the Levin video I posted below and then get back to me.
If you won't listen to my points, why should I listen to your's, who ever you may be.
And unlike someone who posted an hour long video for me to watch and then completely ignored my thoughts on it, I will address yours.
I have stayed away from this argument because of the sheer ridiculousness used to make the claim against Trump, et al.
I'm ready now. And I am starting with Levin's POV as my reference point.
so.. you want to prove his innocence purely on procedural grounds? Or what is your argument? Trump is innocent of everything and all the shit thrown at him is a political vendetta?
not really cutting it. try harder.
If anyone wants to have an actual discussion about what constitutes a real threat to democracy, watch the Levin video I posted below and then get back to me.
If you won't listen to my points, why should I listen to your's, who ever you may be.
And unlike someone who posted an hour long video for me to watch and then completely ignored my thoughts on it, I will address yours.
I have stayed away from this argument because of the sheer ridiculousness used to make the claim against Trump, et al.
I'm ready now. And I am starting with Levin's POV as my reference point.
Me thinks you missed the point...neither side wants to yield, so what is the point of this discussion?
better to shake the dust from your feet and move on
A bit of a comedy watching this group admit they wonât yield and admit the faults of their team, and then go on to hit each other over the head arguingâ¦as if there is some hope to convert?
I don't think conversion is the goal. That has been abandoned long ago. At this point it's just passionate, frustrated discourse.
Add whatever other mix of ingredients you believe to be present.
A bit of a comedy watching this group admit they wonât yield and admit the faults of their team, and then go on to hit each other over the head arguingâ¦as if there is some hope to convert?
A bit of a comedy watching this group admit they wonât yield and admit the faults of their team, and then go on to hit each other over the head arguingâ¦as if there is some hope to convert?
The Green New Deal and the Globalists who are pushing it are the real threats to democracy as we know it here in the US.
This would be Biden.
Democracy means choices to me, not mob rule. The above are all about eliminating choices. One size does not fit all.
You're losin' it Kurt. The Right is all about eliminating choices...as I just posted.
as for the green new deal... It remains a popular program for the majority of Americans.
You should have choices... but you don't get to choose if you want to destroy everyone else's environment.
The Green New Deal and the Globalists who are pushing it are the real threats to democracy as we know it here in the US.
This would be Biden.
Democracy means choices to me, not mob rule. The above are all about eliminating choices. One size does not fit all.
Kurtster:
Democracy means the majority get to make the decisions, even if you disagree with them. That you call this mob rule is pure projection.
The cool thing about democracy is, we all get a chance to change our decisions every election cycle. What you are advocating is the opposite and true mob rule.
Srsly. Take a look at Russia. Is this really what you want for the U.S.? Because it is what you are pushing.
Well, itâs pretty obvious. He wants to get us all healthcare, and make sure weâre educated, and that citizens can vote. If thatâs not reprehensible, I donât know what is.
Don't forget the smaller details... Giving women the continued right to make choices their mothers had, allowing those who are uncomfortable with their sexual orientation to act as they choose, managing the opportunities of continued immigration, and attempting to reduce the number of military weapons in the hands of everyday citizens. Pure insanity.
Democracy ends when we stop telling people how to live their lives, as ordained under God's laws (that's the Christian God of course).
.How is Biden a threat to democracy, much less the real threat to democracy?
Well, itâs pretty obvious. He wants to get us all healthcare, and make sure weâre educated, and that citizens can vote. If thatâs not reprehensible, I donât know what is.
I understand you have policy disagreements with Biden and see those policies as being bad for America.
How is Biden a treat to democracy, much less the real threat to democracy?
He's not, but because Trump most definitely is... then Biden has to be.
It's the false equivalence dance that Kurt has been participating in from day one. That is, when he's not busy twisting himself in a pretzel to blindly justify his support of Trump.
Of course Kurt lost any credibility to be able to comment on democracy a long time ago.
Thats what happens when you unashamedly support a person who tried to do everything in his power to destroy democracy... in an effort to illegally remain in power. Some people wake up to smell the coffee while others never do.
I see Trump as the hope and Biden is the threat; the real threat to democracy.
Tell me again that you have no buyer's remorse with Biden.
I have said many times that Trump is an asshole. But he is my asshole just like Biden is your asshole.
As they say in Youngstown, have a nice day or we'll break your legs ...
You have been sold down the river by a Russian asset who wants to dismantle democracy in the west so that he can reign supreme.
I'd hold back on the hubris if I were you. Democracy is not a word that should be coming from anyone's lips supporting this charade.
Your country and the entire west is under attack and all you can do is support the enemy.
I see Trump as the hope and Biden is the threat; the real threat to democracy.
Tell me again that you have no buyer's remorse with Biden.
I have said many times that Trump is an asshole. But he is my asshole just like Biden is your asshole.
As they say in Youngstown, have a nice day or we'll break your legs ...
"I see Trump as the hope and Biden is the threat; the real threat to democracy."
Hope for what? Another round of incompetence when we have a national emergency like Covid? The very fact that Trump was recommending people take Ivermectin—and many did, some dying because of it—should disqualify him from people's minds.
Or maybe you want another massive tax cut for the super-rich, a group you're decidedly not part of.
Or maybe it's the promise of mass detention camps for illegal immigrants. That would set off a raging legal battle, disrupt the American economy and possibly cause inflation to spike.
And please stop with this crap about "Trump kept us safe." He gave Putin a green light to prepare an invasion of Ukraine. He cut the Afghan govt out of negotiations with the Taliban and was the main cause for our chaotic withdrawal from the country. He killed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty we and our allies had crafted with Iran and deliberately provoked Iran with assassinating one of its intelligence leaders.
Iran got payback by supporting Hamas and likely helping the Oct. 7 on Israel. It's also a main supplier of drones attacking our Ukrainian allies.
And gosh, what happened to that love-fest between Kim Jong Un and Trump? North Korea went back on its promises to Trump so nothing good came of it.
So what are you hoping for, Kurt? All Trump talks about is how he's a victim. Does he any plans for uniting the country? Have you actually read about the Project 2025 plans? Do you seriously think that a President should have full immunity as Trump wants?
I have said many times that Trump is an asshole. But he is my asshole just like Biden is your asshole.
As they say in Youngstown, have a nice day or we'll break your legs ...
This is what you fail to understand... Biden is not mine, but you've left me no choice. I think Trump is beyond a reasonable choice... you don't, because you're willing to overlook who he is for what you think you get from him.
That explains why you answered so few of my questions.
You really do think that I am that stupid, don't you ? I had to tell you so you could figure it out ?
So you know Trump's a scumbag and a threat, and generally just a bad human being, but he's willing to support your point-of-view so you avoid telling the truth about him, while simultaneously peddling crap (like Biden took drugs for the SOTU). It's not a revelation.
F U I can say the same thing about you and Biden.
I see Trump as the hope and Biden is the threat; the real threat to democracy.
Tell me again that you have no buyer's remorse with Biden.
I have said many times that Trump is an asshole. But he is my asshole just like Biden is your asshole.
As they say in Youngstown, have a nice day or we'll break your legs ...
