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hippiechick

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Posted: Jul 14, 2012 - 7:21am


miamizsun

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Posted: Jun 22, 2012 - 2:27pm

 steeler wrote:
I think one of the reasons unions were formed was because of the power the employer had over the employees.  Of course, an employee is free to leave that employment as we do not have slaves or indentured servants anymore.

I would not necessarily equate political influence with corruption. There are all kinds of organizations that lobby for legislation.  Nonprofits do it all the time. The advocacy of factions was part of the Framers' vision. Not all lobbyists are corrupt or possessed of ill intentions. And neither are all organizations that employ them.

Your comment about legislation forcing the taxpayer to pay for the law/contract being a form of corruption is curious.  These are elected officials, and everyone has the right to vote.  They can voluntarily exercise that right, or voluntariliy not exercise it.  They can also voluntarily choose to live somewhere other than in the jurisdiction in which they currently reside (local, state, or federal).  The whole notion that a taxpayer should not have to pay for a law with which they disagree turns the whole concept of representative government on its head.


we may have a difference of opinion when it comes to the power of lobbyist (bribing) congress or the influence of money in politics

when lobbying firms write legislation (on behalf of corporations, unions, etc.) and hand it off to a congressman (to pass into law) in exchange for money/contributions/votes/special treatment, that's not good

these types of laws usually benefit one group of people (lobbyist clients) at the expense of another (taxpayers/future taxpayers)

here's a documentary that everyone should watch regarding the power of money/lobbying influence in politics

(lobbying is by far the best investment dollar wise that a corp could ever make, see examples in film)

peace




Romulus

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Posted: Jun 22, 2012 - 11:39am

 steeler wrote:


He was  making the point that it does not make much sense to condemn all those posters here whose names begin wtih R based  on the bad acts or traits of one poster whose name begins wtih R.

He posted that in response to your post that your CEO was an asshole, etc.   
 
 
Roger, I took that sarcasm literally.
steeler

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Posted: Jun 22, 2012 - 11:26am

 Romulus wrote:
Well perhaps a representive can expand on what he meant by this then. Sounds like a ignorant blanket statement. But what do I know, I'm just a "bad libertarian".
 
islander wrote:

It's just an unfortunate trait of that particular crowd - one bad apple 'n all. 

 

 

He was  making the point that it does not make much sense to condemn all those posters here whose names begin wtih R based  on the bad acts or traits of one poster whose name begins wtih R.

He posted that in response to your post that your CEO was an asshole, etc.   
 


Romulus

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Posted: Jun 22, 2012 - 11:13am

Well perhaps a representive can expand on what he meant by this then. Sounds like a ignorant blanket statement. But what do I know, I'm just a "bad libertarian".
 
islander wrote:

It's just an unfortunate trait of that particular crowd - one bad apple 'n all. 

 


Coaxial

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Posted: Jun 22, 2012 - 10:29am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

No I heard a distinct whooshing sound too.

 
{#Yes}
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jun 22, 2012 - 9:31am

 Romulus wrote:

A coworker used that phrase, when you point the finger, there are 3 pointing back at you.

 
No I heard a distinct whooshing sound too.
Romulus

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Posted: Jun 22, 2012 - 7:30am

 islander wrote:

woosh.

 
A coworker used that phrase, when you point the finger, there are 3 pointing back at you.
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Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 9:05pm

Recessional (Lest We Forget)
islander

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Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 5:29pm

 Romulus wrote:

3 fingers pointing back pot kettle black {#Clap}

 
woosh.
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Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 4:19pm

 islander wrote:

...just pointing out how blanket statements can cover more than intended.

 
Oh, you mean like...

 islander wrote:

...It's just an unfortunate trait of that particular crowd - one bad apple 'n all. 

 
3 fingers pointing back pot kettle black {#Clap}


miamizsun

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Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 3:22pm

 ScottN wrote:
 
{#Lol}

 
i know

another day in the life of small business trying to eek out a living in obama's first term

{#Wink}
ScottN

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Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 3:17pm

 miamizsun wrote:
...
so i hired myself, again, and i gave everyone a raise

then they were all like {#Bounce} 
{#Lol}
miamizsun

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Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 3:14pm

 Romulus wrote:

take away the internets.

btw, are you on the clock, boss?

lol

 
as an example the other day i dicked around for a couple of hours and then i fired myself right in front of entire team

they were all like {#Cry}

they protested and demanded that i get my job back cause i hafta sign checks

so i hired myself, again, and i gave everyone a raise

then they were all like {#Bounce}

GeneP59

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Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 3:11pm

 oldslabsides wrote:

I couldn't care less, I was just monkeying with manbirdio.

 
  {#Eek}
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Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 3:06pm

 oldslabsides wrote:
I couldn't care less, I was just monkeying with manbirdio.
 
You might wanna go update your immunizations...
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 3:04pm

 ScottN wrote:


 
I couldn't care less, I was just monkeying with manbirdio.
GeneP59

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Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 3:04pm


I rest my case.
ScottN

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Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 2:29pm

 oldslabsides wrote:
let's keep this thread on topic, mulligan.

Schlabby, you into golf the pre-election theatrics? 


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 2:12pm

 Manbird wrote:

Don't tell them next time the Wienermobile comes to town then be all well if were paying attention to your work you wouldn't have missed it, ass-face!
 

 

let's keep this thread on topic, mulligan.
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