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Posted: May 24, 2019 - 1:49pm

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look at those faces!

easily the best post i've ever made

{#Biggrin}

 
{#Good-vibes}
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Posted: May 24, 2019 - 1:20pm

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what happens when you stop the drone strikes?

 

surprise! 

 

look at those faces!

easily the best post i've ever made

{#Biggrin}
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Posted: Apr 13, 2018 - 12:37pm

 miamizsun wrote:
what happens when you stop the drone strikes?

 

surprise! 

 
{#Good-vibes}
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Posted: Apr 13, 2018 - 12:29pm

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Posted: Feb 14, 2017 - 6:00am

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crayfish

 
Must make it tough to pick her nose, or not?


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Posted: Feb 14, 2017 - 5:02am

what happens when you stop the drone strikes?

 

surprise! 


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Posted: Feb 13, 2017 - 11:50am

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Posted: Nov 26, 2016 - 8:12am

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Posted: Dec 10, 2012 - 12:27pm

 Proclivities wrote:

I bought a pastel ground that Golden makes.  It's a little expensive, but it's cool to be able to do pastel drawings on things like wood, wallpaper, or mixed collages.

 
Yeah, their stuff is pricey, but it's the best on the market, IMO. They have a product they developed a couple of years ago called a "digital ground" that's designed for inkjet printers. The idea is that you coat paper or fabric with this stuff, send it through your printer, and the dye-based inks will bond with the ground, making it permanent. I'm betting that would world for ballpoint pens, too, though I've never tried it myself.
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Posted: Dec 10, 2012 - 9:51am

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Golden is developing new grounds all the time, bless their little, painted hearts.

 
I bought a pastel ground that Golden makes.  It's a little expensive, but it's cool to be able to do pastel drawings on things like wood, wallpaper, or mixed collages.


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Posted: Dec 10, 2012 - 9:46am

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I seldom used ballpoint pens anymore for anything other than writing, but I didn't know about grounds for applying ballpoint ink to paper.  I still do a great deal of pen and ink drawing, usually with India inks and/or more light-fast mediums, and I usually protect my work with a UV-resistant coating.  Yes, art works in museums are rarely displayed anywhere near windows - some rooms in the MMA in NYC are almost entirely dark, with special lighting aimed at the pieces - usually drawings.

 
Golden is developing new grounds all the time, bless their little, painted hearts.
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Posted: Dec 10, 2012 - 9:36am

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They do, the ink is dye-based and therefore highly impermanent. There are grounds that you can apply to a substrate to make dye-based inks more permanent, and there are products you can finish with that will also help. Ultimately, every medium has its drawbacks in terms of archivability; the keys are using the proper grounds and varnishes, and lessening their exposure to both UV and air. (Have you ever noticed that fine arts museums rarely have a lot of windows? The National Museum of Fine Arts, in DC, has no windows that can shine or reflect UV onto the works!)

 
I seldom used ballpoint pens anymore for anything other than writing, but I didn't know about grounds for applying ballpoint ink to paper.  I still do a great deal of pen and ink drawing, usually with India inks and/or more light-fast mediums, and I usually protect my work with a UV-resistant coating.  Yes, art works in museums are rarely displayed anywhere near windows - some rooms in the MMA in NYC are almost entirely dark, with special lighting aimed at the pieces - usually drawings.


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Posted: Dec 10, 2012 - 9:26am

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blimey

 
I know, right?
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Posted: Dec 10, 2012 - 9:26am

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Amazing work.  I wonder if they used any UV coating or varnish for those pieces - most writing pen inks notoriously fade and/or discolor (in my experience).

 
They do, the ink is dye-based and therefore highly impermanent. There are grounds that you can apply to a substrate to make dye-based inks more permanent, and there are products you can finish with that will also help. Ultimately, every medium has its drawbacks in terms of archivability; the keys are using the proper grounds and varnishes, and lessening their exposure to both UV and air. (Have you ever noticed that fine arts museums rarely have a lot of windows? The National Museum of Fine Arts, in DC, has no windows that can shine or reflect UV onto the works!)
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Posted: Dec 10, 2012 - 9:12am

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blimey

 
{#Yes}Incredible.
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Posted: Dec 10, 2012 - 9:08am

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