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rgio

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 4:49pm

 haresfur wrote:

The biggest difference is that trump lies are seen as a positive feature by his minions

Trumps lies are a feature, Biden's are a bug.

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 4:36pm

 VV wrote:

No, I didn't call you out on slamming Biden on his lies... slam away. 
 
The point I'm making (and I'm not the only one) is that the minute you want to start pretending that Biden is as bad or worse in that department vs Trump is ridiculous and is when you lose all credibility. There is no comparison. Trump leaves Biden in the dust. Especially when one lie (repeated to this day) was the pretext and impetus for a failed insurrection (among other things).

No there isn't an equivalency, something that you absolutely don't understand. But you so desperately want there to be one.


The biggest difference is that trump lies are seen as a positive feature by his minions
buddy

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 3:02pm

 VV wrote:

No, I didn't call you out on slamming Biden on his lies... slam away. 
 
The point I'm making (and I'm not the only one) is that the minute you want to start pretending that Biden is as bad or worse in that department vs Trump is ridiculous and is when you lose all credibility. There is no comparison. Trump leaves Biden in the dust. Especially when one lie (repeated to this day) was the pretext and impetus for a failed insurrection (among other things).

No there isn't an equivalency, something that you absolutely don't understand. But you so desperately want there to be one.


Nailed it. 

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 2:12pm

 steeler wrote:
So many haters, so little time!

Grand Old Projection.

Mean-spirited (and distrusted) vs.

VV

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 2:00pm

 kurtster wrote:

No, you're calling me out for slamming Biden on his lies.

You're ignoring Biden's "lies", like I'm ignoring Trump's "lies"

Yet you will call out Trump's lies and then have the nerve to slam me when I do the same for Biden.

Yes, there is an equivalency, that you clearly do not understand.

No, I didn't call you out on slamming Biden on his lies... slam away. 
 
The point I'm making (and I'm not the only one) is that the minute you want to start pretending that Biden is as bad or worse in that department vs Trump is ridiculous and is when you lose all credibility. There is no comparison. Trump leaves Biden in the dust. Especially when one lie (repeated to this day) was the pretext and impetus for a failed insurrection (among other things).

No there isn't an equivalency, something that you absolutely don't understand. But you so desperately want there to be one.

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 1:46pm

 VV wrote:
 
 
BTW when is it that you... "unprompted"... ever called out any of Trump's lies?

Yet, you're slamming the rest of us for not being critical of Biden's "lies"? 
 
Are you beginning to see how silly your argument is? If you yourself can't do what you are complaining others can't do... then the argument loses all strength.  
 
No, you're calling me out for slamming Biden on his lies.

You're ignoring Biden's "lies", like I'm ignoring Trump's "lies"

Yet you will call out Trump's lies and then have the nerve to slam me when I do the same for Biden.

Yes, there is an equivalency, that you clearly do not understand.

Later, going home now.
rgio

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 1:46pm

 steeler wrote:
Exactly. The real double standard.

Biden is both a senile old man and a pathological liar. Does he even know what the truth is?

Oh yeah...he's not running for office.

Another stupid distraction to avoid the insane blathering coming out of Trump's mouth these days.

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 1:37pm

 VV wrote:

I'm dealing with it just fine. 
 
I don't think anyone claims that Biden doesn't lie at all. But to draw some kind of equivalency between the two on this point is both asinine and comical. Your false equivalency doesn't hold any water. 
 
BTW when is it that you... "unprompted"... ever called out any of Trump's lies? Yet, you're slamming the rest of us for not being critical of Biden's "lies"? 
 
Are you beginning to see how silly your argument is? If you yourself can't do what you are complaining others can't do... then the argument loses all strength.  

Exactly. The real double standard.


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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 1:34pm

 kurtster wrote:

Both of you don't seem to get it.

Everyone complains constantly about Trump being a liar, but no one ever seems to say anything about Biden's lies as if Biden is not / does not lie / liar.

That is the point.  A clear double standard.  It has always been that way.  No one lies except Trump.

Well, you're right now.  It no longer matters.  But when it did matter, it was ignored, always.

Still Biden is POTUS until he isn't, so it does matter.  So deal with it.

They both lie.  Quit pretending it is only Trump.


I'm dealing with it just fine. 
 
I don't think anyone claims that Biden doesn't lie at all. But to draw some kind of equivalency between the two on this point is both asinine and comical. Your false equivalency doesn't hold any water. 
 
BTW when is it that you... "unprompted"... ever called out any of Trump's lies? Yet, you're slamming the rest of us for not being critical of Biden's "lies"? 
 
Are you beginning to see how silly your argument is? If you yourself can't do what you are complaining others can't do... then the argument loses all strength.  
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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 1:23pm

 R_P wrote:


So many haters, so little time!

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 12:58pm


kurtster

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 12:23pm

 rgio wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Yeah, I tried to keep up, but no one wanted to hear it and there aren't anywhere near the amount of official score keepers to go to like there are for Trump.  Only Trump's lies mattered around here is the point.

All politicians lie.  The devil is in the details, and Trump is on the express train to hell. Biden's lies are like telling a girl "yeah... I've had sex before".   Trump is more like "That's not syphilis, I've had a vasectomy, and I have a latex allergy, so let's get busy before my wife and newborn get home"  They're both lies, but they are not similar.
 
Biden recently said that no one in our military died under his administration.  That is both a whopper and a major insult to the country and our military, for openers.

Biden's lies are far from harmless.
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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 12:12pm

 kurtster wrote:

Being fair has nothing to do with anything around here.

Just calling a spade a spade.



You don't get to shill Trump all day and then spout that whiny crap. GTFU
rgio

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 12:06pm

 kurtster wrote:

Yeah, I tried to keep up, but no one wanted to hear it and there aren't anywhere near the amount of official score keepers to go to like there are for Trump. 

Only Trump's lies mattered around here is the point.

All politicians lie.  The devil is in the details, and Trump is on the express train to hell.

Biden's lies are like telling a girl "yeah... I've had sex before".  

Trump is more like "That's not syphilis, I've had a vasectomy, and I have a latex allergy, so let's get busy before my wife and newborn get home" 

They're both lies, but they are not similar.
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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 12:06pm

Being fair has nothing to do with anything around here.

Just calling a spade a spade.
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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 11:56am

kurtster

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 11:28am

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Everyone complains constantly about Trump being a liar, but no one ever seems to say anything about Biden's lies as if Biden is not / does not lie / liar.


Slacker!
 
Yeah, I tried to keep up, but no one wanted to hear it and there aren't anywhere near the amount of official score keepers to go to like there are for Trump. 

Only Trump's lies mattered around here is the point.
kcar

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 11:19am

 kurtster wrote:

Both of you don't seem to get it.

Everyone complains constantly about Trump being a liar, but no one ever seems to say anything about Biden's lies as if Biden is not / does not lie / liar.

That is the point.  A clear double standard.  It has always been that way.  No one lies except Trump.

Well, you're right now.  It no longer matters.  But when it did matter, it was ignored, always.

Still Biden is POTUS until he isn't, so it does matter.  So deal with it.

They both lie.  Quit pretending it is only Trump.



Everyone lies, Kurt. Politicians too. 

But Trump tells more lies than truths. And he will never admit that he was wrong or mistaken about something. He just lies more. 

Hope this clarifies things for you. 
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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 11:03am

 kurtster wrote:

Everyone complains constantly about Trump being a liar, but no one ever seems to say anything about Biden's lies as if Biden is not / does not lie / liar.


Slacker!

kurtster

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Posted: Aug 6, 2024 - 10:54am

Both of you don't seem to get it.

Everyone complains constantly about Trump being a liar, but no one ever seems to say anything about Biden's lies as if Biden is not / does not lie / liar.

That is the point.  A clear double standard.  It has always been that way.  No one lies except Trump.

Well, you're right now.  It no longer matters.  But when it did matter, it was ignored, always.

Still Biden is POTUS until he isn't, so it does matter.  So deal with it.

They both lie.  Quit pretending it is only Trump.
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