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haresfur

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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 7:38pm



 kurtster wrote:


f you want to argue that Federal forces violated the Geneva Conventions, then you have to argue that the protesters in Portland are an organized armed force engaged in protected violence against the United States.


And you are defending people who are trying to burn down a federal courthouse and the people inside.

 
You really need to work on your reading comprehension, dude. I don't know how to explain any clearer that that is not what they are arguing.

And who says I'm defending people who are trying to burn down a federal courthouse (with some pieces of cardboard up against a concrete wall)?

Seriously, learn to read.

kurtster

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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 6:27pm

 haresfur wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Another post to be proud of.

Here's what I saw in the comments as an excellent rebuttal ...

FreedomsChoice
2 days ago

Like many Americans, I have viewed the Federal response to the events in Portland with shock and horror, but Dr. Feigl-Ding's argument is flat-out inaccurate and counterproductive. I am an attorney with experience in the Law of Armed Conflict. The Geneva Conventions do not apply to the events in Portland under any reasonable interpretation. Yes, Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions applies to non-international armed conflict (NIAC). However, even the most expansive definitions of NIAC require protracted violence between governmental authorities and organized armed groups with a military command structure. Riots and isolated acts of domestic terrorism do not arise to the level of a NIAC.

If you want to argue that Federal forces violated the Geneva Conventions, then you have to argue that the protesters in Portland are an organized armed force engaged in protected violence against the United States.

Obviously, that's inaccurate, and only fuels the rhetoric coming from the other side. Lets focus on the real and serious civil rights violations we are witnessing, which are supposed to be protected under our domestic laws.


I am honestly concerned about Newsweek's publication standards if they are spreading such a baseless twitter accusation as if it is coming from an authoritative source.

This article is not contributing to the public discussion.

Emphasis mine.

 
From the article that RD posted:

"Many are missing the point - even if there is no active war - the fact that what is happening would be considered a war crime under GC if there was one — reveals the utter lack of morals and disrespect of human rights of Trump DHS federal forces. That is the point."

They are not saying that the Geneva Convention applies. The US Government is taking all sorts of actions that would be war crimes under the GC if it applied. That is the irony and cause for outrage. The actions that are unacceptable when applied to enemy combatants and civilians in other countries are acceptable to this administration (and to prior administrations) when taken within the United States.

 
If you want to argue that Federal forces violated the Geneva Conventions, then you have to argue that the protesters in Portland are an organized armed force engaged in protected violence against the United States.


And you are defending people who are trying to burn down a federal courthouse and the people inside.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 5:01pm



 haresfur wrote:



From the article that RD posted:

"Many are missing the point - even if there is no active war - the fact that what is happening would be considered a war crime under GC if there was one — reveals the utter lack of morals and disrespect of human rights of Trump DHS federal forces. That is the point."

They are not saying that the Geneva Convention applies. The US Government is taking all sorts of actions that would be war crimes under the GC if it applied. That is the irony and cause for outrage. The actions that are unacceptable when applied to enemy combatants and civilians in other countries are acceptable to this administration (and to prior administrations) when taken within the United States.

 

Thank you. I didn't point this out because, well... kurt.
haresfur

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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 4:47pm



 kurtster wrote:

Another post to be proud of.

Here's what I saw in the comments as an excellent rebuttal ...

FreedomsChoice
2 days ago

Like many Americans, I have viewed the Federal response to the events in Portland with shock and horror, but Dr. Feigl-Ding's argument is flat-out inaccurate and counterproductive. I am an attorney with experience in the Law of Armed Conflict. The Geneva Conventions do not apply to the events in Portland under any reasonable interpretation. Yes, Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions applies to non-international armed conflict (NIAC). However, even the most expansive definitions of NIAC require protracted violence between governmental authorities and organized armed groups with a military command structure. Riots and isolated acts of domestic terrorism do not arise to the level of a NIAC.

If you want to argue that Federal forces violated the Geneva Conventions, then you have to argue that the protesters in Portland are an organized armed force engaged in protected violence against the United States.

Obviously, that's inaccurate, and only fuels the rhetoric coming from the other side. Lets focus on the real and serious civil rights violations we are witnessing, which are supposed to be protected under our domestic laws.


I am honestly concerned about Newsweek's publication standards if they are spreading such a baseless twitter accusation as if it is coming from an authoritative source.

This article is not contributing to the public discussion.

Emphasis mine.

 
From the article that RD posted:

"Many are missing the point - even if there is no active war - the fact that what is happening would be considered a war crime under GC if there was one — reveals the utter lack of morals and disrespect of human rights of Trump DHS federal forces. That is the point."

They are not saying that the Geneva Convention applies. The US Government is taking all sorts of actions that would be war crimes under the GC if it applied. That is the irony and cause for outrage. The actions that are unacceptable when applied to enemy combatants and civilians in other countries are acceptable to this administration (and to prior administrations) when taken within the United States.

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Posted: Jul 26, 2020 - 10:41am


kurtster

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Posted: Jul 26, 2020 - 7:35am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Another post to be proud of.

Here's what I saw in the comments as an excellent rebuttal ...

FreedomsChoice
2 days ago

Like many Americans, I have viewed the Federal response to the events in Portland with shock and horror, but Dr. Feigl-Ding's argument is flat-out inaccurate and counterproductive. I am an attorney with experience in the Law of Armed Conflict. The Geneva Conventions do not apply to the events in Portland under any reasonable interpretation. Yes, Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions applies to non-international armed conflict (NIAC). However, even the most expansive definitions of NIAC require protracted violence between governmental authorities and organized armed groups with a military command structure. Riots and isolated acts of domestic terrorism do not arise to the level of a NIAC.

If you want to argue that Federal forces violated the Geneva Conventions, then you have to argue that the protesters in Portland are an organized armed force engaged in protected violence against the United States.

Obviously, that's inaccurate, and only fuels the rhetoric coming from the other side. Lets focus on the real and serious civil rights violations we are witnessing, which are supposed to be protected under our domestic laws.

I am honestly concerned about Newsweek's publication standards if they are spreading such a baseless twitter accusation as if it is coming from an authoritative source.

This article is not contributing to the public discussion.

Emphasis mine.

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Posted: Jul 26, 2020 - 7:24am

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Posted: Jul 25, 2020 - 5:18pm

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kurtster

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Posted: Jul 18, 2020 - 9:09pm

What do you expect when the police have just become onlookers of crime and do nothing about it ?

A city's PD only follows the mayor's orders of what to do and not to do.

In Portland, the mayor has made it clear that it will no longer be in the business of defending property, well some of it but not all of it, if you are not on the Mayor's "good" list.

The mayor refuses to let the PD defend federal buildings and those who work in them. 

So the federal government must defend its own self, by itself, with their own people.  It can and will legally arrest people that the City of Portland refuses to.

And here we are

and that people are surprised at anything happening in Portland is beyond my comprehension.

Take notes.  There will be a test.
buddy

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Posted: Jul 18, 2020 - 4:41pm



 haresfur wrote:


 Steely_D wrote:
Are you folks seeing what’s going on in Portland? 

https://twitter.com/demwrite/s...
 
Shouldn't every president have his own private secret police? The state doesn't want them there, the city doesn't want them there.



Oregon Sues Federal Agencies For Grabbing Up Protesters Off The Streets


 

Paramilitary secret police forces with no ID taking people off the street (including journalists) to God knows where. How is this not a gross abuse of power for  which Trump should be impeached & thrown out of office?  America is not Russia or China or a banana republic. This is a blatant attack on American democracy and the Constitution and a violation of the rule of law.

THE CONSTITUTION MATTERS!
BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: Jul 18, 2020 - 4:26pm



 haresfur wrote:
 
Shocked but not surprised

 

He's seeking to inflame the situation so he can bring his own version of shock and awe. Writing another check to the ACLU....
haresfur

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Posted: Jul 18, 2020 - 3:53pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
Steely_D wrote:
Are you folks seeing what’s going on in Portland? 

https://twitter.com/demwrite/s...

The hell of it is we're not even shocked anymore.
 
Shocked but not surprised

Lazy8

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Posted: Jul 18, 2020 - 3:40pm

Steely_D wrote:
Are you folks seeing what’s going on in Portland? 

https://twitter.com/demwrite/s...

The hell of it is we're not even shocked anymore.
haresfur

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Posted: Jul 18, 2020 - 3:23pm



 Steely_D wrote:
Are you folks seeing what’s going on in Portland? 

https://twitter.com/demwrite/s...
 
Shouldn't every president have his own private secret police? The state doesn't want them there, the city doesn't want them there.



Oregon Sues Federal Agencies For Grabbing Up Protesters Off The Streets


R_P

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Posted: Jul 18, 2020 - 10:27am

Predictive policing algorithms are racist. They need to be dismantled.
Lack of transparency and biased training data mean these tools are not fit for purpose. If we can’t fix them, we should ditch them.
Steely_D

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Posted: Jul 18, 2020 - 10:21am

Are you folks seeing what’s going on in Portland? 

https://twitter.com/demwrite/s...
R_P

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Posted: Jul 15, 2020 - 11:46am

Leaked Documents Show Police Knew Far-Right Extremists Were the Real Threat at Protests, not “Antifa”
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