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Posted: Jun 1, 2020 - 5:20pm

Third time's the charm?




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Posted: May 16, 2020 - 1:13pm

Politico has interviewed a number of people who've known Tara Reade over the last 20 years.


‘Manipulative, deceitful, user’: Tara Reade left a trail of aggrieved acquaintances

A number of those who crossed paths with Biden’s accuser say they remember two things: She spoke favorably about her time working for Biden, and she left them feeling duped.


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As part of an investigation into Reade’s allegations against Biden — charges that are already shaping the contours of his campaign against a president who has been accused of sexual assault and misconduct by multiple women — POLITICO interviewed more than a dozen people, many of whom interacted with Reade through her involvement in the animal-rescue community.

A number of those in close contact with Reade over the past 12 years, a period in which she went by the names Tara Reade, Tara McCabe or Alexandra McCabe, laid out a familiar pattern: Reade ingratiated herself, explained she was down on her luck and needed help, and eventually took advantage of their goodwill to extract money, skip rent payments or walk out on other bills.

The people quoted in this article provided copies of past emails, screenshots of Facebook Messenger or text exchanges with Reade, copies of billing invoices or court records detailing their grievances or correspondence. POLITICO also reviewed dozens of public records, including court documents, divorce filings and Reade’s 2012 bankruptcy records.

The accounts paint a picture of Reade’s life in the years leading up to her allegations, in which she spoke often of her connection to Biden but also of troubles in her personal life and a need for money. Sexual abuse victims sometimes offer contradictory information about their alleged abusers, so her comments do not necessarily refute her claims against the former vice president. But they add weight to the evidence that she spoke positively about him in the years before she accused him of digitally penetrating her in the early ’90s.

Reached by phone, Reade declined to answer specific questions and referred the matter to her attorney, Douglas Wigdor.

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Posted: May 12, 2020 - 6:26pm



 Steely_D wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Yeah, well it was anybody but a Clinton or a Bush for me last time around, so there ...

 
{#Nyah}
 

Never had a Willy or a Sam.

(OR A SAM!)
 

LOL
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Posted: May 12, 2020 - 4:38pm



 kurtster wrote:

Yeah, well it was anybody but a Clinton or a Bush for me last time around, so there ...

 
{#Nyah}
 

Never had a Willy or a Sam.

(OR A SAM!)
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Posted: May 12, 2020 - 4:09pm

Biden will be on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC  this Thursday night for the full hour. 
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 10:20pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:


 Red_Dragon wrote:
I don't like him. I don't like him at all. But he isn't Trump. That's the equation for me; as horrible as it is.
 

"Every nation gets the government it deserves. "

— Joseph de Maistre
 

Why does the current government feel like a cross between a dose of cyanide and a game of Russian roulette with only one chamber empty?
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 7:45pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:
I don't like him. I don't like him at all. But he isn't Trump. That's the equation for me; as horrible as it is.
 

"Every nation gets the government it deserves. "

— Joseph de Maistre
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 7:43pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
I don't like him. I don't like him at all. But he isn't Trump. That's the equation for me; as horrible as it is.
 
Yeah, well it was anybody but a Clinton or a Bush for me last time around, so there ...

 {#Nyah}
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 6:08pm

I don't like him. I don't like him at all. But he isn't Trump. That's the equation for me; as horrible as it is.
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 6:02pm

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I suppose it would be politically incorrect to point out that, even if the accusations against Biden are taken at face value, it would show he believes no means no and stops. 
 
You can only get a no when you ask...

"Are you ok with me pinning you against the wall and sliding a hand up your dress?"
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 5:35pm

I suppose it would be politically incorrect to point out that, even if the accusations against Biden are taken at face value, it would show he believes no means no and stops. 
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 1:09pm

You don't say...
Fox News has unsurprisingly become the go-to cable-news outlet for chatter about the sexual-assault allegations about former Vice President Joe Biden. But when it came to similar (and more voluminous) allegations against his opponent, President Donald Trump, the network was seemingly nowhere to be found.

Earlier this year, Tara Reade claimed that the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee forced her against a wall and put his hands up her skirt when she worked as a staffer in his Senate office in the early 1990s. The narrative became instant red meat for Fox News, which has made the allegations one of its top stories across its cable and digital platforms, largely aggregating or riffing on reporting done by mainstream outlets while lamenting a supposed lack of media coverage of the story.

According to a transcript search via media-monitoring service TVEyes, the Reade accusations have been mentioned at least 289 times on the network since late March, when Reade first detailed them in an interview with leftist podcast host Katie Halper.

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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 12:53pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:

RUH-ROH!


THIS 1996 COURT DOCUMENT BOLSTERS RAPE CLAIM AGAINST BIDEN


Normally I'd be compelled to remind people that everyone deserves due process. But Joe Biden just this week reminded people that he doesn't believe in due process. So seriously, screw Joe Biden's due process. I'm not the one who made the rules. I'm just a comedy writer who moonlights in political snark. Who was told I hate women when I said the Brett Kavanaugh allegations looked like a political stunt.

The only question now: Does the DNC drag Biden across the finish line? Or is he just made to feel comfortable until nature takes its course?



https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/tara-reade-joe-biden-1996



 

That court document, filed by Reade's then-estranged husband in 1996, mentions only sexual harassment and not sexual assault. It does not provide any detail that might corroborate Reade's claim of sexual assault.

From https://www.mercedsunstar.com/...




From that same article: 



Asked for comment Thursday, the national press secretary for Biden’s presidential campaign, T.J. Ducklo, said the campaign is not commenting on the latest development at this time.

However, the campaign did provide a comment from Ted Kaufman, who was Biden’s chief of staff at the time. â€œI have consistently said what is the truth here — that she never came to me,” Kaufman said. “I do not remember her, and had she come to me in any of these circumstances, I would remember her. But I do not, because she did not.”

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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 12:19pm

 sirdroseph wrote:
In regards to the second remark,  you are as naive as you are intelligent.
 
Don't let ignorance lead you to jump to conclusions about other people.
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 6:24am

RUH-ROH!


THIS 1996 COURT DOCUMENT BOLSTERS RAPE CLAIM AGAINST BIDEN


Normally I'd be compelled to remind people that everyone deserves due process. But Joe Biden just this week reminded people that he doesn't believe in due process. So seriously, screw Joe Biden's due process. I'm not the one who made the rules. I'm just a comedy writer who moonlights in political snark. Who was told I hate women when I said the Brett Kavanaugh allegations looked like a political stunt.

The only question now: Does the DNC drag Biden across the finish line? Or is he just made to feel comfortable until nature takes its course?



https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/tara-reade-joe-biden-1996



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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 6:21am

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 sirdroseph wrote:
If we were honest with ourselves this is true and sometimes the price is payed gladly with altruistic intentions for the greater good.   This is why I have no issue at all with someone who votes for Biden and supports the metoo movement in regards to prioritizing the voice and concerns of women victims of sexual assaults or harassment.   Just acknowledge that you are paying a price.   After all,  virtually all of us here have already chosen an alleged abuser of women in an election.  I did it twice myself.  Once in 1992 and again in 96.

In regards to the second remark,  you are as naive as you are intelligent.

So we all have 3 choices:  Trump, Biden, or neither.  Let's agree neither hands your choice to others.

If you support #metoo, who do you pick?
If you support the pro-life movement, who do you pick?
If you support current gun laws, who do you pick?
Lower taxation, lower regulation, the environment, immigration reform, and anything else that may be important to you, who do you pick?

Analyzing the limitations of your options is critical.  You don't have to surrender your principals to vote...you have to prioritize them.
 
Personally I am holding true to exercising my right to vote as a protest to the 2 party duopoly meaning anybody but a D or an R.  It has never been easier to maintain my tradition started back in aught 10.  In other words, I am in the neither camp.{#Mrgreen}   As long as your reasoning is intellectually honest then you have the credibility to proceed with your choices and makes it easier for those that hold different opinions to work with you and of course that goes both ways. {#Meditate}
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 5:33am



 sirdroseph wrote:
If we were honest with ourselves this is true and sometimes the price is payed gladly with altruistic intentions for the greater good.   This is why I have no issue at all with someone who votes for Biden and supports the metoo movement in regards to prioritizing the voice and concerns of women victims of sexual assaults or harassment.   Just acknowledge that you are paying a price.   After all,  virtually all of us here have already chosen an alleged abuser of women in an election.  I did it twice myself.  Once in 1992 and again in 96.

In regards to the second remark,  you are as naive as you are intelligent.

So we all have 3 choices:  Trump, Biden, or neither.  Let's agree neither hands your choice to others.

If you support #metoo, who do you pick?
If you support the pro-life movement, who do you pick?
If you support current gun laws, who do you pick?
Lower taxation, lower regulation, the environment, immigration reform, and anything else that may be important to you, who do you pick?

Analyzing the limitations of your options is critical.  You don't have to surrender your principals to vote...you have to prioritize them.
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Posted: May 8, 2020 - 2:41am



 R_P wrote:
 sirdroseph wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 sirdroseph wrote:
(...) but I agree with what Biden says above and have never wavered from this notion regardless of the political party of the accused. You should try it, there is no confusion.

Unless there's the threat of a socialist getting the Democratic nomination, in which case you'd feel compelled to vote (expediently) for the lesser evil alleged rapist (aka Trump)...
 
This is true, it would take something that dangerous, but that is about the only thing.
{#Yes}
 Though sadly it looks like the pandemic has pushed us into socialism anyway.  How ironic that we are destroying our grandchildren's hope by having them foot the tab for shutting the economy down and it is helping the environment which was the concern of our grandchildren as well.  Seems like either way, we are screwing our descendants.
{#Cry}
 
Just goes to show that almost everyone has a price (or a fear) that might make them put their principles on hold.


If you actually had socialism, workers would be prioritized (in any bailout scheme), not capital...
 

If we were honest with ourselves this is true and sometimes the price is payed gladly with altruistic intentions for the greater good.   This is why I have no issue at all with someone who votes for Biden and supports the metoo movement in regards to prioritizing the voice and concerns of women victims of sexual assaults or harassment.   Just acknowledge that you are paying a price.   After all,  virtually all of us here have already chosen an alleged abuser of women in an election.  I did it twice myself.  Once in 1992 and again in 96.


In regards to the second remark,  you are as naive as you are intelligent.
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Posted: May 7, 2020 - 9:23pm



 R_P wrote:
Birds of a feather... Adorable.
 


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Posted: May 7, 2020 - 7:58pm

Birds of a feather... Adorable.
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