No it is not the messenger in this case. I would be on Trump as well for this if he would have said it in this context.
Perhaps you have come to misunderstand what a Patriot is. This may have worked mid last century as I was informed, but certainly not now. This is Neocon 101 stuff. Just because one calls themself a Patriot does not mean you're all for war because war is a cool thing to do. It is for our military, media, industrial complex and failing politicians to look tough and decisive. War gets votes. War sells news(papers) as well as bombs and missiles. Hearst built an empire on war. Remember The Maine ! ?
The present day Media without Trump to bash would go broke. They sure won't sell anything defending Biden. War is the next best thing for clicks.
But back to the phrase ... neocon 101. Since you find nothing objectionable or inappropriate with the phrase and its present context I will have to conclude that you are or support neocon activities, ideals and principals. I do not.
Sorry sir, table for one?
Looks like you are the only one having a problem with the phrase, so I guess that makes everyone else a Neocon by default?
There's nothing wrong with a speech trying to play on people's patriotism. All presidents have done it past & present. Some are just better at it than others. His speech wasn't a call to arms but a call to supply (continue to supply) arms and to support our allies. Are you against that? I'm flabbergasted that you miss these blatantly obvious nuances.
Btw it's a pretty broad stretch to make to say my "not having a problem with something" makes me a "Neocon". But if it makes you happy... think whatever you like. Is Biden now a Necon as well?
Oh and....
"No it is not the messenger in this case. I would be on Trump as well for this if he would have said it in this context."
...if you can't condemn him for the failed insurrection or improper retention of classified materials... there is not a snowball's chance in hell you would have any issue with anything he says. Sorry but that last statement isn't the least bit credible.
So what is your take on Biden's speech ? I offered mine which you criticized. You're turn.
First off, I didn’t see it live but did read it on WhiteHouse.gov.
I can’t speak to his delivery since I didn’t see him deliver it but only to content. And the gist of it is to convince the public that continued support of Ukraine is necessary as is our support of Israel. I only objected to your overreaction to the words: Arsenal of Democracy. Put into a little more context… the paragraph in his speech where he made his statement is found below along with the paragraph before it.
And let me be clear about something: We send Ukraine equipment sitting in our stockpiles. And when we use the money allocated by Congress, we use it to replenish our own stores — our own stockpiles with new equipment — equipment that defe- — that defends America and is made in America: Patriot missiles for air defense batteries made in Arizona; artillery shells manufactured in 12 states across the country — in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Texas; and so much more.
You know, just as in World War Two, today, patriotic American workers are building the arsenal of democracy and serving the cause of freedom. Call me crazy but I don’t see anything incendiary at all about it. Are you “triggered” by what is clearly an appeal to patriotism? I’m sure if it came out of Trump’s mouth (though he doesn’t understand patriotism) you would have no problem with it. In the end, it’s probably the messenger you have issue with… not the message.
No it is not the messenger in this case. I would be on Trump as well for this if he would have said it in this context.
Perhaps you have come to misunderstand what a Patriot is. This may have worked mid last century as I was informed, but certainly not now. This is Neocon 101 stuff. Just because one calls themself a Patriot does not mean you're all for war because war is a cool thing to do. It is for our military, media, industrial complex and failing politicians to look tough and decisive. War gets votes. War sells news(papers) as well as bombs and missiles. Hearst built an empire on war. Remember The Maine ! ?
The present day Media without Trump to bash would go broke. They sure won't sell anything defending Biden. War is the next best thing for clicks.
But back to the phrase ... neocon 101. Since you find nothing objectionable or inappropriate with the phrase and its present context I will have to conclude that you are or support neocon activities, ideals and principals. I do not.
So what is your take on Biden's speech ? I offered mine which you criticized.
You're turn.
First off, I didnât see it live but did read it on WhiteHouse.gov.
I canât speak to his delivery since I didnât see him deliver it but only to content. And the gist of it is to convince the public that continued support of Ukraine is necessary as is our support of Israel. I only objected to your overreaction to the words: Arsenal of Democracy. Put into a little more context⦠the paragraph in his speech where he made his statement is found below along with the paragraph before it.
And let me be clear about something: We send Ukraine equipment sitting in our stockpiles. And when we use the money allocated by Congress, we use it to replenish our own stores â our own stockpiles with new equipment â equipment that defe- â that defends America and is made in America: Patriot missiles for air defense batteries made in Arizona; artillery shells manufactured in 12 states across the country â in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Texas; and so much more.
You know, just as in World War Two, today, patriotic American workers are building the arsenal of democracy and serving the cause of freedom.
Call me crazy but I donât see anything incendiary at all about it. Are you âtriggeredâ by what is clearly an appeal to patriotism? Iâm sure if it came out of Trumpâs mouth (though he doesnât understand patriotism) you would have no problem with it.
In the end, itâs probably the messenger you have issue with⦠not the message.
Will it serve as a recruiting tool for potential terrorists ?
Diddums, the phrase "arsenal of democracy" has been around for over 80 years. Biden was not the first president since FDR to use it; I'll lay good money that Reagan did. It's not as if Joe Biden lit the Koran on fire and peed on it.
The phrase touches on America' willingness to support other democracies against violent attack. Our enemies, state-based and otherwise, already know this. The phrase "arsenal of democracy" is not going to shock anyone or whip them into a state of murderous frenzy any more than the phrase "truth and justice for all" would.
If the phrase has any effect, it will hearten our friends who worried during Trump's admin about our commitment to alliances and democracies.
The speech on Ukraine tonight. It did mention Israel for a minute or two.
Tonight Biden uttered the most consequential words any POTUS has made in either this century or the last ...
The Arsenal Of Democracy
I pretty much stopped listening after hearing those words. They just overwhelmed me.
These four words will haunt the US and our allies to the end of our existence because they will be used by every terrorist or ideological organization for recruiting forever, just as we still quote the words of other leaders to motivate us and justify our own existence.
I want the name of the person who wrote those words.
No one has mentioned these words in any post speech commentary that I have seen and likely will go unnoticed until much later when they are replayed by our enemies.
I really hope they go unnoticed by our enemies like they most likely will be by the rest of the world.
imho.
Drama Queen.
No, those words won't make any difference to anyone or anything. One speech of many that Biden will make while in office. Our enemies will still be our enemies. I sincerely doubt they give a flying f*ck about any one single speech made by our president as it always boils down to actions... not rhetoric.
Also, (slow your roll) we don't quote the words of other leaders to justify our existence. Our existence isn't so fragile as to be impacted by the words of other leaders. Maybe you mean justify the existence of an organization like NATO. Now that would make sense.
The speech on Ukraine tonight. It did mention Israel for a minute or two.
Tonight Biden uttered the most consequential words any POTUS has made in either this century or the last ...
The Arsenal Of Democracy
I pretty much stopped listening after hearing those words. They just overwhelmed me.
These four words will haunt the US and our allies to the end of our existence because they will be used by every terrorist or ideological organization for recruiting forever, just as we still quote the words of other leaders to motivate us and justify our own existence.
I want the name of the person who wrote those words.
No one has mentioned these words in any post speech commentary that I have seen and likely will go unnoticed until much later when they are replayed by our enemies.
I really hope they go unnoticed by our enemies like they most likely will be by the rest of the world.
The speech on Ukraine tonight. It did mention Israel for a minute or two.
Tonight Biden uttered the most consequential words any POTUS has made in either this century or the last ...
The Arsenal Of Democracy
I pretty much stopped listening after hearing those words. They just overwhelmed me.
These four words will haunt the US and our allies to the end of our existence because they will be used by every terrorist or ideological organization for recruiting forever, just as we still quote the words of other leaders to motivate us and justify our own existence.
I want the name of the person who wrote those words.
No one has mentioned these words in any post speech commentary that I have seen and likely will go unnoticed until much later when they are replayed by our enemies.
I really hope they go unnoticed by our enemies like they most likely will be by the rest of the world.
So that $6 billion that Joe has parked in Qatar where the leader of Hamas, Khaled Mashal very comfortably resides, at 5% interest earns $300 million per year. While the $6 B may be in limbo, the interest being earned certainly isn't. How long has was the $6 B in S Korea before being relocated ? What became of the interest earned on that while it was there ? 3 years ? That would make that 6 grow to 7 yet no one mentions that.
With Qatar obviously being friendly to Hamas it is no stretch to see that interest money being siphoned off for illicit use, like by Hamas. Qatar and everyone else can keep that money held on the side and keep their word, yet the interest being earned isn't even mentioned anywhere and that can be given to Iran or anyone else, without breaking the "trust".
Biden, once again is playing us on his relationship with Iran as well as the other countries he has been associated with as being soft on by people paying attention.
Hey ! While your here maybe you can answer this question. How come only men, women and children are being killed in Gaza ?
I’ll trade you for the link about how Biden said that stuff while speaking there. Or did it not happen and it was a straw man?
Well it did not happen this time like it did twice before, at least. I did give you one example already.
This time the shit he said was even worse.
Something about giving Hamas $100 million and making sure that it would only be used for humanitarian purposes and then the one where he told the Israelis that they should not feel enraged about the massacre.
I'll get around to getting the links for those incase you think I made them up.
So my question is really a medical question. Right up your alley. How come only men and women ? What about all of the rest of the genders ? Why are they not dying ?
