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buzz

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 2:05pm

Since we are all gathered here, I will post this here.

This is the type of quality individual the president has as an advisor. Ain'tcha all proud? 
zipper

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 2:03pm

 buzz wrote:
One reason people are upset about the Obama speech is that it was announced the same week this came out.

 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 

“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”

 

 
One nation under O.

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 2:02pm

 musik_knut wrote:


Other Presidents have addressed school kids. They did so in a manner unlike what Team Obama proposes. Previous Presidents prodded students to study, to stay in school, to seek higher education after K12, to be good citizens.

Teaching kids about Our Presidents is fine. Having them learn the life of our current President is more of Mr. Obama's 'hey, look at me' stuff. He really has taken to being The One...

And once again, Team Obama, more and more resembling  Pillars of Jell-O, backpedaled when considerable resistance erupted over some of the activities being proposed or actually, imposed.

 
Previous presidents didn't attach a student curriculum to their speeches.

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 1:58pm

 zipper wrote:

Under the FAQ, the classroom activities for the K-6 grades begins with this.

Before the Speech
• Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama.

{#Lol} Who writes this stuff?
 

Other Presidents have addressed school kids. They did so in a manner unlike what Team Obama proposes. Previous Presidents prodded students to study, to stay in school, to seek higher education after K12, to be good citizens.

Teaching kids about Our Presidents is fine. Having them learn the life of our current President is more of Mr. Obama's 'hey, look at me' stuff. He really has taken to being The One...

And once again, Team Obama, more and more resembling  Pillars of Jell-O, backpedaled when considerable resistance erupted over some of the activities being proposed or actually, imposed.
buzz

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 1:58pm

One reason people are upset about the Obama speech is that it was announced the same week this came out.

 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 

“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”

 
zipper

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 1:51pm

 musik_knut wrote:


{#Clap}

 
Under the FAQ, the classroom activities for the K-6 grades begins with this.

Before the Speech
• Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama.

{#Lol} Who writes this stuff?

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 1:47pm

 Painted_Turtle wrote:


What specific activity is full of the blatant partisan indoctrination?  Are you sure there is a requirment for participation?

 

Question: regarding having students read the life story of President Obama. Is that not a form of indoctrination? Does it not smack of Dear One?
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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 1:45pm

 zipper wrote:

Whoa, kids can vote in MA? {#Lol} Seriously, the teachers were instructed to wear them?

Did you see the letter from the Sec of Ed to the nation's principals regarding the historic speech? Note the follow-up classroom activities listed under question 3. Despite the fact that few kids will be paying attention to the speech, all of them will be required to participate in projects to discuss and explain what they learned from the president's words. We can rest assured that it will amount to blatant partisan indoctrination.

 

What specific activity is full of the blatant partisan indoctrination?  Are you sure there is a requirment for participation?
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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 1:37pm

 zipper wrote:

Whoa, kids can vote in MA? {#Lol} Seriously, the teachers were instructed to wear them?

Did you see the letter from the Sec of Ed to the nation's principals regarding the historic speech? Note the follow-up classroom activities listed under question 3. Despite the fact that few kids will be paying attention to the speech, all of them will be required to participate in projects to discuss and explain what they learned from the president's words. We can rest assured that it will amount to blatant partisan indoctrination.

 

{#Clap}
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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 1:36pm

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Oh, what's wrong with a little "education" ?? Afterall, children need to be taught what to think, don't they? {#Lol}

I am not sure some of the students got "the message." Perhaps she should have worn the Obama button in class like all the teachers were instructed to do in Massachusetts during Deval Patrick's campaign for governor?

 
Whoa, kids can vote in MA? {#Lol} Seriously, the teachers were instructed to wear them?

Did you see the letter from the Sec of Ed to the nation's principals regarding the historic speech? Note the follow-up classroom activities listed under question 3. Despite the fact that few kids will be paying attention to the speech, all of them will be required to participate in projects to discuss and explain what they learned from the president's words. We can rest assured that it will amount to blatant partisan indoctrination.


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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 1:32pm

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I am not sure some of the students got "the message." Perhaps she should have worn the Obama button in class like all the teachers were instructed to do in Massachusetts during Deval Patrick's campaign for governor?

 

Maybe every kid in the country should be given a Top Cat button to wear if they so choose too & if their parents allow them to wear one, of course.   {#Lol}

Seems to me that its all the adults that are in a big kerfuffle over presidents talking with school children that are making this in to a Kilkenny Cat fight as DMax mentioned.   Just sounds like more paranoid goofeyness to me.  Most little kids don't view people as Repubs or Dems; just as people like themselves.

"There once were two cats of Kilkenny
Each thought there was one cat too many
So they fought and they fit
And they scratched and they bit
'Til (excepting their nails
And the tips of their tails)
Instead of two cats there weren't any! "

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 1:25pm

 jadewahoo wrote:
Its time for open revolt against these stupid motherfucking fundamentalist idiots.

 

jade,
'Open revolt'? And that would entail?
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Mugro

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 1:16pm

 zipper wrote:

Because the country's educators are above reproach. What could go wrong? It's just a little indoctrination.


 

Oh, what's wrong with a little "education" ?? Afterall, children need to be taught what to think, don't they? {#Lol}

I am not sure some of the students got "the message." Perhaps she should have worn the Obama button in class like all the teachers were instructed to do in Massachusetts during Deval Patrick's campaign for governor?


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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 1:09pm

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Funny, because they think it's time to reclaim the country from liberal communist hippies facist greedy money-grubbers

I'm thinking of the Kilkenny cats

 

Yup, its' the old Top Cat dilemma   {#Lol}


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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 12:51pm

 jadewahoo wrote:
Its time for open revolt against these stupid motherfucking fundamentalist idiots.
 
Funny, because they think it's time to reclaim the country from liberal communist hippies.

I'm thinking of the Kilkenny cats
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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 12:45pm

 Mugro wrote:


Washington Post October 3, 1991:

House Democrats criticized President Bush yesterday for using Education Department funds to produce and broadcast a speech that he made Tuesday at a Northwest Washington junior high school.

The Democratic critics accused Bush of turning government money for education to his own political use, namely, an ongoing effort to inoculate himself against their charges of inattention to domestic issues. The speech at Alice Deal Junior High School, broadcast live on radio and television, urged students to study hard, avoid drugs and turn in troublemakers.

 


...didn't Communist Party Chairman Mao use that same tactic on the Chinese citizens during the bloodbath that was the Cultural Revolution.

Each turning in the other

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 12:10pm

 jadewahoo wrote:
Its time for open revolt against these stupid motherfucking fundamentalist idiots.

 
Because the country's educators are above reproach. What could go wrong? It's just a little indoctrination.



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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 10:02am


sirdroseph wrote:

That speech in 1991 was different; it was done by a real American with good intentions. (God Bless the Bush's)

It is said Obamas speech will be done in a futuristic hall with crowds of perfectly lined people dressed identical in societal garb; chanting with perfectly orchestrated cadence at the Supreme Leaders pauses!
 


Hmmm...   Sounds like another article from The Onion.

(Or is it, perhaps, another ACORN rally?)
 

Or I coulda just been making a joke about this real news piece!{#Chillpill}

samiyam

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 9:55am

 sirdroseph wrote:

That speech in 1991 was different; it was done by a real American with good intentions. (God Bless the Bush's)

It is said Obamas speech will be done in a futuristic hall with crowds of perfectly lined people dressed identical in societal garb; chanting with perfectly orchestrated cadence at the Supreme Leaders pauses!{#Wink}


 
Hmmm...   Sounds like another article from The Onion.

(Or is it, perhaps, another ACORN rally?)

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Posted: Sep 4, 2009 - 9:45am

 jadewahoo wrote:
Its time for open revolt against these stupid motherfucking fundamentalist idiots.

 
Douglas Adams had that character (Wonko from "So Long and Thanks For All the Fish") with the inside-out house so he could be "outside the asylum" while comfortably at home.

I think I'm just going to find a place like that to hole up I'll come out when the shooting stops.

If America is The Asylum then the Vegas airport is definitely a good representation of The Day Room.

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