musik_knut wrote: 
Yo m_k

Feel free to disagree any way you like. Just don't post a bunch of moronic pics when words fail you or you don't have any reasonable answer. But in a nutshell, the reason I made that statement is that Obama seems to be right on board with Wolfowitz's PNAC & the fact that the Zionists practically run the government would obviously mean that so are the presidents controlled. Of course its a whole lot more subtle than that & I would like to elaborate but right now this place has copped a very surreal feel apart from the fact that its controlled by a few spoilers with no own thoughts or opinions. It would be a waste of my time.

 nuggler wrote: 

I believe some in here are waiting with a thermos of hot chocolate, blankets and other creature comforts for when you emerge from the twilight zone...just sayin' what I thought I heard...ya know?

 nuggler wrote: 

You're attacking me, when I attacked the topic.

How does the article about Leiberman and the bill he sponsors - that you chose to start this topic - have anything to do with Obama and Zionism and the Stooges?

 dmax wrote: 
With all due respect, how is it that you think you qualify to judge then shut down a subject of such import...?
Look, I've been away for sometime & if in my absence the RP fraternity elected you as a watchdog of sorts then I need to know about it so that I might fall in line with any new rulings. So please enlighten me.

Now what you post above sheds more light on the subject & gives me reason to dig a little deeper which, let me remind you, the whole fucking point of having a discussion in the first place. Or am I slipping into the twilight zone here or something. Something quite bizarre about how you're going about things here.

I should add that that bill is not the only reason I'm changing my thinking & tune concerning Obama.

 Xeric wrote:

 

I had to rush off & didn't fully answer your comment.
Ok, so my social skills are not up to scratch. Could be a whole lot of reasons for that. We didn't all grow up the same. But it is as it is & if you believe that that's sufficient reason to judge a person you don't even know then so be it. The fact that you choose to judge at any rate says more about you than it does me. But we'll leave it at that.
The thread title seemed appropriate to me in light of the fact that I've done a lot of research in this area & esp. in light of recent massive shakeups in all our lives in the past couple of years & especially considering the source of these shakeups. What most considered conspiracy theory a few years back is now proving itself to be FACT.
Now I was away for quite some time & have only been posting for maybe 3 weeks now. I post on issues that I feel very strongly about otherwise I wouldn't post. And my posts reflect my feelings. I call that HONESTY. You might call it something else. No biggie. But if you can go over the few posts I've made in these past couple of weeks & show me where I myself have degraded this wonderful place as you say, I shall delete them all. That I promise.
But I am unlikely to knock off posting my observations & concerns, I will not allow myself to be censored by anyone simply because that's the way you would have it. I will stop any degrading posts though once you point them out to me. That is not the reason I post & I most certainly do not want to do that.

So please level with me Xeric, so that I can fix my faults. I thank you in advance.

 nuggler wrote: 

nugs,
Sorry to disagree, no, actually, pleased to disagree: Mr. Obama is not remotely a neocon or a Zionist. He is the most liberal President ever by the standard understanding of 'liberal'. Has he contiuned many policies he inherited? Yes. Has he gone further with some of them? Yes. But not because he is as you peg him to be.
with regards,
mk

 nuggler wrote: 

Clip from the article that you linked to, asserting that our President is a "NeoCon/Zionist Stooge:"

The Protecting Cyberspace Act was introduced last week by Senator Joseph Lieberman, the Connecticut independent who is chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, and Senator Susan Collins of Maine, the panel's ranking Republican. Counterparts in the House Homeland Security Committee have endorsed identical legislation, meaning that a final bill could be adopted by the full Congress within weeks. The White House has not taken a stand on the legislation so far.

Lieberman said the bill was intended to prevent a "cyber 9/11" in which "cyberwarriors, cyberspies, cyberterrorists and cybercriminals" take aim at the United States and try to shut down infrastructure that is dependent on the Internet-a list of targets that include everything from nuclear power plants to banks to Pentagon computer networks.

Talk about non-sequiter. No wonder some assclown posted all those pictures. The topic deserved it.

 lily34 wrote: 
Only if it wasn't Egyptian linen. Otherwise I think you were fine.

i had a dream i was on a talk show, but it was a closed set, with michelle obama and oprah. the set was a huge bed done in  navy blue linens and we were clothed as such. and i was agreeing with everything michelle said. it was weird..

 Lazy8 wrote: 
If its me you're referring to then go screw yourself. If not, then we're ok.
My opening post brings up a dangerous issue that if implimented, will change our lives. Plenty to discuss there.
I was not the one who posted a bunch of retarded fucking 3 Stooges pics for the sole reason of derailing this subject about this bill that if implimented will shut down all access to TRUTH. How much bigger can it get than that? So we get a bunch of stupid pictures instead.

 dmax wrote: 

Maybe not, there are those secret FEMA hospitality centers, ya know ...

 Proclivities wrote: 

Now that you've figured that out, you must be killed.

 Xeric wrote: 

True story.  But, it could just as easily be the other side of the same coin.  Heads I win, tails you lose ...

Every modern presidential candidate has some kind of sponsorship with a specific agenda.

You as an individaual donor have your own purpose in mind.  That's OK, nothing wrong with that.  That's the whole idea anyway.  

But on the other hand, you probably only gave to one side.  Corporations pretty much give to both sides.  Its in their budgets and the winner will surely remember who bet against them.  So better to give to both sides; either way, it curries favor.  The corporation is going to have to deal with whoever wins, regardless.

 dmax wrote:
Well the "Misc Business" entry obviously refers to the (undocumented) space aliens who backed that foreign-born mountebank.

 phineas wrote: 

But just LOOK at where the money came from! It's obvious that he's beholden to certain groups! $2.4 million from the oil and gas people alone!!!

Rank	Industry	Total
1	Retired	$32,672,270
2	Lawyers/Law Firms	$9,926,121
3	Real Estate	$8,871,369
4	Securities & Investment	$8,698,635
5	Republican/Conservative	$6,787,091
6	Misc Business	$5,921,718
7	Health Professionals	$5,258,836
8	Misc Finance	$5,210,724
9	Business Services	$3,368,914
10	Insurance	$2,447,206
11	Oil & Gas	$2,402,937
12	Commercial Banks	$2,293,748
13	General Contractors	$2,023,286
14	Civil Servants/Public Officials	$1,994,145
15	Misc Manufacturing & Distributing	$1,848,756
16	Education	$1,744,451
17	Computers/Internet	$1,478,327
18	Construction Services	$1,261,227
19	Lobbyists	$1,227,875
20	Accountants	$1,216,728

Oh. Wait. That was McCain.

Here's Obama's. I don't see "Oil and Gas" anywhere on there. Of course, maybe it's because he's so beholden to those damn teachers...

Rank	Industry	Total
1	Lawyers/Law Firms	$43,154,642
2	Retired	$42,892,978
3	Education	$22,976,126
4	Misc Business	$16,500,999
5	Securities & Investment	$14,891,735
6	Health Professionals	$11,746,631
7	Business Services	$11,503,771
8	Democratic/Liberal	$11,106,487
9	Real Estate	$10,422,031
10	TV/Movies/Music	$9,004,072
11	Civil Servants/Public Officials	$8,807,391
12	Computers/Internet	$8,521,003
13	Women's Issues	$6,906,664
14	Misc Finance	$6,398,267
15	Printing & Publishing	$5,968,031
16	Other	$3,669,123
17	Hospitals/Nursing Homes	$3,339,099
18	Commercial Banks	$3,316,351
19	Non-Profit Institutions	$2,974,895
20	Construction Services	$2,915,255

Look at this comparison of who put the most into their campaign, and wonder who would've been in whose pocket.

Barack Obama

University of California	$1,591,395
Goldman Sachs	$994,795
Harvard University	$854,747
Microsoft Corp	$833,617
Google Inc	$803,436

John McCain

Merrill Lynch	$373,595
Citigroup Inc	$322,051
Morgan Stanley	$273,452
Goldman Sachs	$230,095
JPMorgan Chase & Co	$228,107

Ralph Nader

Farouk Systems	$9,200
YMCA	$6,900
University of South Carolina	$6,850
Falconwood Corp	$6,600
University of Massachusetts	$5,150

 Xeric wrote: 
Plus the whole you've gotta raise a whole shit load of cash to run for POTUS thing is a fact of political —- and therefore everyone's — life.

 kurtster wrote: 


Here's a thought—maybe someone DIDN'T want another Republican real bad. I donated to Obama's campaign—first such political donation in my life. The fact that Obama raised a shit load of cash does not, alone, necessarily indicate that anybody in particular bought him.

 Lazy8 wrote: 
Yes, there is legitimate ground to be covered.  The Stooge pics are funny , but like its been said this is a music site ...

Perhaps retitle it.  Zionist Tools and Fools, eh?  That leaves room for serious and flipant, without attaching just one person's name to it.  This is way bigger than one person.  This stuff, if successful will make Obama into the biggest patsy or fall guy of history since ...  

Like I have mentioned before somewhere, Goldman Sachs gave BHO $6,000 shy of a million dollars.  That make BHO an employee IMO.  One cannot ignore a million dollars.  Its nearly 3 times the annual salary of a prez.  This guy raised a Billion Dollars in campaign contributions.  Someone sure wanted him prez, real bad.  Goldman Sachs isn't where it begins, per se, but its a darn good place to start looking for dot connecting.

Meanwhile, back to the freeway, which is already in progress ...

 JrzyTmata wrote: 

 Lazy8 wrote: 

If only we had a forum that was about Obama...