nuggler wrote: 
Yeppers.

 nuggler wrote: 
Wrong, not true. There are huge differences between a Republican and a Dem in the WH, no matter how you think it doesn't. The difference comes in the attitude of the entire country.

 oldviolin wrote: 
Nothing would have changed had McCain had taken over instead. Nothing will change if Palin or Trump or Ron Paul (edit) or HERMAN CAIN take 2012. They are all potential "good Presidents' so they will do as they're told or they will not get "elected". Simple as that end of story.

 oldviolin wrote: 
Being a cynic, I'd say Orwell got it right. People take a lot of sh*t if they feel under threat, so even if there is none a threat has to be created to prevent the population turning round and asking awkward questions. During the Cold War the West saw Russia and the bogey man, the Russians saw the West as the bogeyman, and everyone else kept their heads down. I see the US as being in a similar position to the assorted European empires after WWII, decline has set in and rather than turn round and admit that the sh*t has hit the fan it's 'safer' to find a new bogey man.

 oldviolin wrote: 
All out of money,numerous bad calls on international affairs and a false birth certificate ,not to mention,a murderer,at least in the eyes of the "muslim world",,I find it hard for the the dead NOT to wretch.

All I need to know about the poser in chief is currently bleeding out on foreign soil...for reasons he has no intention of articulating. It's almost like his administration and the Congress, aside from a few boat rockers, are hypnotized. The hypocrisy is enough to make the dead wretch.

 nuggler wrote: 

For the point I was making about Obama, the Isreali and Palestinian problem is irrelevant. 

But if you want to discuss it in context of Obama and the "big picture" the IP problem is tool of devisiveness that serves the purposes of those you are trying expose.  Resolving it is counter productive to the goals of those you are trying to expose.  True that there was a miscalculationon on their part in the resolve and understanding of Jihad, but they have since made the adjustment.  Somewhere here years ago, I pointed out that miscalculation in discussing the war in Iraq.

Those that you are trying to expose go to great lengths to keep as many pots boiling to cause distraction while they accomplish their longstanding goals.  They want to keep the IP pot boiling just as they seek to keep the pot of racial divide boiling here in the States.  Instability and chaos are their weapons and tools of establishing shiny distracting objects in the right hand so you ignore what the left hand is doing.  Racism is big business complete with government programs and contracts worth mucho dinero to the administrators and participants.  Keeping the IP problem amped up not only keeps the fear of annihilation and Armegeden to the uninformed too busy trying to stay on the hamster wheel alive, but it serves the Military-Industrial complex, Wall Street speculators and those that you are trying to expose.  Fear and loathing allows the speculators to manipulate prices, make money and destroy the US and world economy(s) all at the same time.

Obama's remark about 1967 assures that the IP problem will remain unresolved.  It plays into the emotions of those under Hamas and serves Hamas by making it appear that the POTUS has become their advocate furthering their resolve to achieve their unrealistic goals.  Ask yourself this question, what will happen if Israel is wiped of the map ?  Will it bring peace ?  Will it quench the thirst of the Jihadists ?  Or will it embolden them to keep going and establish their Caliphate throughout the world ?  Candidate Obama warned of the establishment of a Caliphate, but President Obama has poo-pooed the notion of a Caliphate as merely the muckraking of CTer's.

I've been paying attention to the problems you raise for nearly 20 years in the context you try and raise.  You are a Johnny come lately and still haven't got the facts sorted out, but you are on the right track.  Right for the wrong reasons.  Go back and explore Jefferson and the Pirates of the Barbary Coast and follow it to the present.  Dig deep and you will find the understanding that you need to truly understand the problems we face with the world of Jihad.  You have worked the chain of the Rothschilds, now go back to Jefferson and dig. There you will find the definition of the problem we face today.

 kurtster wrote: 
You didn't have to comment on bin Laden, Kurt. Israel & Palestine irrelevant ? About as irrelevant as the Nazi holocaust, right ? Otherwise the rest of what you say here seems in favor of propping up a rotten to the core status quo & brutal foreign policy that continues to radicalize moderate Muslims. If you want to know what irrelevant is, its anything that spills from any POTUS mouth. Obama like Bush like Clinton is just another empty suit. They are paid to keep the engine of illusion that keeps the populace spellbound running. That's it end of story. Had we eyes to see we would see that its all irrelevant & meaningless to what's really going on because what's really going on looks like an Arab Reformation that is beyond the control of the CIA, Mossad & MI-6 which in turn is frightening the living daylights out of AngloAmericaZIONIST corporatocracy. This bodes well for the global community but not so for Israel it doesn't, which should tell you something about the true nature of Israel & those beholden to it, no ?

 Manbird wrote: 
ya carry a purse and wear gold pantaloons? good luck with that rapture thing

 Manbird wrote: 

 buzz wrote: 
but it'll fill my coin purse with gold doubloons maybe

 Manbird wrote: 
sorry princess, but mating with OV wont make you king

 oldviolin wrote: 
... and mate. 

 
 
 king me!

 kurtster wrote: 
check

 nuggler wrote: 
Nope, I don't even think I commented on bin laden, I haven't been around much lately.  I wasn't impressed with him getting obl, infact I think he handled that stupidly as well.  That's old stuff now.  I will say that I am truly disappointed that obl was not Mirandized and taken alive and given a nice fair show trial in New York like he wants to give all the rest of bin laden's buddies.

I see Obama sucking up to the Arab world by throwing Israel under the bus.  His aproval rate in the Arab world has dropped about 15% across the board since 2009 averaging 25% approval down to 10%.  He thinks that by toying with Israel he will score him Happy Meal points with the Arabs.  What a loser, and we go down with him.  Obama is the biggest fool our government has issued a paycheck to since George Armstrong Custer.  I won't discuss Israel and the Palestinians or take sides on that issue here, its irrelevant.

I have seen enough of Obama to not believe one word that comes out of his mouth.  And he thinks he can fool all the people all of the time, that makes him stupid and dangerous.

 dmax wrote: 
What you call an insult I call an observation. My, but you are the sensitive one.

 nuggler wrote: 
You know, it's fine if you want to believe or not believe what you want.

But how about not insulting us with such frequency? You want to live here with us, then quit peeing in the pool. Sheesh.

Kurt ~ You bought his 24 carat BullSh!t pie about hunting & killing a 10 year dead zombie which tells me that he's got you snowed as well. Nothing stupid about him but he is one lying piece of work.

 hippiechick wrote: 
After seeing him in action in Egypt and now Libya, I clearly understand how he operates.

 MrsHobieJoe wrote: 
It was just explained to me that there is a third party negotiation team, and this is their belief, that this is a starting point.