kurtster wrote: 
Thanks

 triskele wrote:  For many, ignorance has become a virtue.

 BluEyes wrote: 
Well it is the Oklahoma Question thread, eh ?

You're in the right place.

 BluEyes wrote: 
received and replied! 

 oldslabsides wrote: 

  Sorry for hijacking the forum but I have no idea how to access PMs from the iPhone or even if it is possible. Anyways, I PMed you! 

 emeraldrose63 wrote: 
I have seen the occaisional list that P refers to.  Can't find a handy one, though.

Here is the Federal Governments lists, a bit confusing and only with data about 4th and 8th grades.   I think that it is safe to say that most of the core learning is done by 8th grade anyway.

Clicky here

you will find an interactive chart where you can click here and there and find comparisons to national averages and whatnot.  It is of itself rather meaningless without digging deeper to find the actual rankings list.  To go deeper, you must double click on a state to get to here

Pick any state, it doesn't matter it is the only way to get to the meaningful stuff.
Under the map you will find a chart that gives rankings by grade and subject and to the very end of the row is a button that says compare.  It looks like it is grayed out and not active, but it is, click on it.

You should end up here  (upon testing of the links, it returns you to the one above, so you must double click on the state to get to the next step)

Once again the map is meaningless.  Look right above the map and you will find a link to Stat Comparison Table.  Click on it.

Finally, you will reach a table in a new window with numerical listings from top to bottom.  All the states will be there.  You will have to hit compare on each 8th grade line item to find out each states ranking for that particular subject. 

Its a real pain in the butt to get the info, but it is there.  If anyone knows a better way or link, by all means, please share it.

 BluEyes wrote: 

 triskele wrote: 


I cannot access those from the phone. We are stuck in a huge traffic snarl as the graduates are returning to Fort Sill.

We will try to get on the computer in the motel lobby but that will be an hour or so.

 kurtster wrote: 

Where's the list that you are referring to please. I'd like to see it..

From Steven Colbert: "Better watch the cows, they may be secret mooooooooooo-slims!"

 BluEyes wrote: 
he sent you a pm!

 kurtster wrote: 
ayup

 triskele wrote: 
I think that either South Carolina or Mississippi comes in last, not sure.  Its all crazy.

Priorities are messed up for sure.

 kurtster wrote: 
Popularity does not equal necessity!

 triskele wrote: 


Looking for Schlabby!

Limited navigation online with my cell phone ;(

we are in Lawton now and will be in OKC on Saturday.

 kurtster wrote: 
but state question 744 (i think that was the number), to designate more of the state's budget money for schools and teachers' salaries, in order to bring OK up to the standards of neighboring states, was overwhelmingly voted DOWN.  80% of ballots cast were NO.  OK is ranked 49th in the country, not sure who is 50th, as far as the education system.

Oklahoma Question 755 passed overwhelmingly.  Is it an unnecessary law ?  Evidently not as its margin of victory is very revealing.

Question 755 (International Law)
Result		Votes	Percentage
Yes		695,568	70.08%
No		296,903	29.92%
Total votes		992,471	100.00%
Voter turnout		%

• In a poll conducted by SoonerPoll.com, 49 percent of voters polled stated that they were for the measure. The poll surveyed likely registered voters in the state, which included 385 Democrats, 340 Republicans and 31 independents. The margin of error was reported to be 3.57 percentage points and was commissioned by the Tulsa World.^<9>

Date of Poll	Pollster	In favor	Opposed	Undecided	Number polled
July 16-21, 2010	SoonerPoll.com	49%	24%	27%	755

Two measures aimed at illegal immigration received even greater approval. State Question 751, which would make English the state's official language, was favored by 85 percent; SQ 746, to require photo identification to vote, was favored by 83 percent.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=19&articleid=20100805_16_A9_Amswhr19725

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State Question 755 has received national attention, and Duncan has been interviewed about the proposal by several national news outlets.

However, the proposal appeared less controversial among Oklahoma legislators. House Joint Resolution 1056 passed the Oklahoma House of Representatives on an overwhelmingly bipartisan 82-10 vote and cleared the Senate on a bipartisan 41-2 vote.

Duncan has predicted the measure will receive similar overwhelming support from voters. Recent polling indicates the measure will pass, although many citizens remain uncertain. A poll conducted July 16 to 21 for The Tulsa World found that 49 percent of likely voters supported State Question 755, while 24 percent opposed it and 27 percent were undecided.

 kurtster wrote: 
Great.  Just great.

 cc_rider wrote: 
Ayup.  'Zactly what George was talking about.