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Posted: Aug 14, 2011 - 2:47am

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Any fecking idiot knows that American Airlines is a subsidiary of AMR Corporation which is listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol AMR. Those same fecking idiots know that United is UAL, but was UAUA before that, and before that was UAL.
 
Actually UAL is United Continental Holdings, the parent company for United Airlines.  UAUA is their NASDAQ symbol.

Thanks for keeping us abreast of what fecking idiots do and don't know. {#Bounce}


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Posted: Aug 14, 2011 - 2:37am

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In step with this scenario one could add that when the ValuJet DC-9 crashed into the everglades there were no few human remains found. No CT there.
 
From the CVR transcript:
1410:15 {29:23}
CAM-1 we got some electrical problem.

1410:17 {29:25}
CAM-2 yeah.

1410:18 {29:26}
CAM-2 that battery charger's kickin' in. ooh, we gotta.

1410:20 {29:28}
CAM-1 we're losing everything.

1410:21 {29:29}
DEP Critter five nine two, contact Miami center on one thirty
two forty five, so long.

1410:22 {29:30}
CAM-1 we need, we need to go back to Miami.

1410:23 {29:31}
CAM (sounds of shouting from passenger cabin)

1410:25 {29:33}
CAM-? fire, fire, fire, fire (from female voices in cabin)

There!  Proof positive that a group of foxy female assassins opened fire on the passengers and crew, landed the plane at a clandestine airstrip, transferred the bodies to an organ harvesting lab disguised as a grouper processing ship, flew the plane into the Everglades by remote control and escaped to the Bahamas.

What else could it possibly be? {#Stupid}

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Posted: Aug 14, 2011 - 2:09am

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Unfortunately, this is probably true...

An Explosive New 9/11 Charge

August 11, 2011

In a new documentary, former national-security aide Richard Clarke suggests the CIA tried to recruit 9/11 hijackers— then covered it up. Philip Shenon on George Tenet's denial.

 
WHAT?!?!?  The CIA keeps SECRETS?!?!?  I am SHOCKED!!!!!  SHOCKED!!!!!!!!!!

{#Roflol}

The important part is that this speculation doesn't have the CIA recruiting them to be hijackers, but to turn them into double agents.

It's no secret that the FBI higher-ups ignored warnings from top field officers.  They even fired the guy who yelled the loudest.

Guess what happened to that guy?  He died on his first day as director of security for the WTC.  True story.

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Posted: Aug 14, 2011 - 1:59am

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Obviously, you have not the slightest rudimentary info on the Commission's make up.
 
And I should care about this...why?

I suggest you do a bit of a web search...

Not my problem; not my claim.


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Posted: Aug 14, 2011 - 1:55am

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What? Here it's clear that you've gone completely insane.
 
You're trying desperately to convince an insane person?  What does that make you? {#Roflol}

The records on SA/terrorist funding as above were redacted. It's a matter of official record.

So there you go, then.  So what's your big problem?

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Posted: Aug 14, 2011 - 1:45am

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It's a matter of record, but you can obfuscate all you'd like.
 
Thanks but I prefer to see the record.  Show me the record.


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Posted: Aug 14, 2011 - 1:43am

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You're "told" that this person was never an FBI employee? That's hilarious.
 
Again, your claim.  Show me her shiny Special Agent badge.

You are obviously a moron, and/or a shill.

No, you're losing your own argument.  Notice how I don't have to make rude personal claims about you...


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Posted: Aug 14, 2011 - 1:36am

Any fecking idiot knows that American Airlines is a subsidiary of AMR Corporation which is listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol AMR. Those same fecking idiots know that United is UAL, but was UAUA before that, and before that was UAL. Stop being a dick, grow a pair, and give up the obtuse snobbery. It's getting real old.


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Posted: Aug 14, 2011 - 1:32am

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This has nothing to do with Truman or Manhattan Project.
 
OK fine, as long as you understood my analogy that did.  You do understand, right.  Right???

The results of discovery on Able Danger could have easily been made public, without endangering "state secrets", etc. Even if it did expose some classified info, the need for truthful evidence in this case far outweighed any excuse that "classified" info was exempt from exposure. It has happened many times on other investigations.

Define "discovery".  Define '"state secrets", etc.'

Who appointed you judge of what outweighs what?

What "other investigations"?


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Posted: Aug 14, 2011 - 1:32am

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LowPhreak wrote:
15. If Flight 93 was brought down in a crash in Shanksville, PA by a struggle between the hijackers and passengers on board, what explains a debris field of wreckage that covered an area of between a 5 to 8 mile radius?

Kinetic energy.  A very heavy object full moving at several hundred knots releases tremendous amounts of energy when it crashes into terra firma.  Loose or knocked-loose items can be propelled very far from the main crater by a level of energy that is equivalent to a very large bomb.  The burning fuel can create thermals that lift light objects like paper, and the prevailing winds can carry them far away.

Multi-ton aircraft engines don't bounce miles away from the site of the initial impact.

If you say so.  I haven't seen any experiments to see how well "multi-ton aircraft engines" bounce.  Why is this relevant?

Why was there no visible debris from the crashed airliner at the crash site, and no human remains of the passengers and crew?

Again, a loaded question.

I wasn't there as an eyewitness, but the photos I saw of the Shanksville site were consistent with other "auger in" crash photos.  I also believe the people who recovered the human remains from the site.  Again, their description of the body fragments is consistent with dozens of other "auger in" crashes.

 
In step with this scenario one could add that when the ValuJet DC-9 crashed into the everglades there were no few human remains found. No CT there.

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