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islander

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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 8:23am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Welp: Our next president will be an old white man. 

Warren's dropping out.
 
Are these statements supposed to be related?

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 8:10am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Welp: Our next president will be an old white man. 

Warren's dropping out.
 
Nonsense, Tulsi's gonna turn it around any day now.

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 7:58am

Welp: Our next president will be an old white man. 

Warren's dropping out.
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 6:19am

 sirdroseph wrote:
... sounds fascist to me... 
 

feeling a wee bit dramatic this morning?
sirdroseph

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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 4:19am

 haresfur wrote:


 kcar wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


 islander wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


 islander wrote:


 
 
We had both, which caused chaos and confusion. Got rid of the caucus and kept the primary, our mail by date is the 10th, so a bunch of people are waiting to see who's still viable after yesterday.

Again - nationwide, same day, plenty of notice, mail in option, maybe the day off.  The system will still have plenty of flaws, but let's at least rationalize the entry point.
 
That would be ok if you had ranked-choice voting or if the bottom candidate gets to decide who to throw their votes to and cascade them up until someone has a majority.

 
Seems complex. Here's an easier alternative that still meets my requirements  (except the mail in part):

 
Well if the Australians can figure it out, anyone else can. So in our elections you can vote for your first choice then rank your next choices. I think there is a minimum number but you don't have to work you way through all the right wing wacko parties that you put below the Pirate Party, the Sex Part, and the Motoring Enthusiasts.

But if that's too much of a pain, you can vote for your first choice then let them dole out your preferences to the down-ballot parties. The nice thing is you can have your protest vote without helping, say, the Clive Palmer United Party formed by a coal baron.

 

Haresfur: is compulsory voting helpful or not in your opinion? Do Australians try to become informed or do they just blindly throw darts at the board? 

I was amused that Cleaver Greene was elected to the Senate in season 5 of "Rake" pretty much due to voter confusion and scant attention. Unfortunately the show's lost its zaniness. 

Another idle thought: Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome came out in '85 when we definitely had color photography and videography. So why the b/w photo? I keep seeing the same b/w choice in recently used photos from events in the 70s...
 

I think compulsory voting is a good idea. It's part of your responsibility as a citizen. I think the biggest advantage is that it takes voter suppression out of the picture, mostly. If you are going to make people vote, they will generally not stand for you making it hard for them to vote. And if you really want, you can spoil your ballot. We vote on paper and as near as I can tell get results counted as fast as in the US. Are people informed? Well not the ones who support the racist parties 

I never got into Rake - past my bedtime.
 
Voting is not a responsibility, it is a right.  Sounds pretty Facist to me.  Force and coercion so completely uninformed voters can make completely uninformed choices.  High vote count to nothingness.
haresfur

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Location: The Golden Triangle
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 4:05am



 kcar wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


 islander wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


 islander wrote:



 
We had both, which caused chaos and confusion. Got rid of the caucus and kept the primary, our mail by date is the 10th, so a bunch of people are waiting to see who's still viable after yesterday.

Again - nationwide, same day, plenty of notice, mail in option, maybe the day off.  The system will still have plenty of flaws, but let's at least rationalize the entry point.


 
That would be ok if you had ranked-choice voting or if the bottom candidate gets to decide who to throw their votes to and cascade them up until someone has a majority.

 
Seems complex. Here's an easier alternative that still meets my requirements  (except the mail in part):


 
Well if the Australians can figure it out, anyone else can. So in our elections you can vote for your first choice then rank your next choices. I think there is a minimum number but you don't have to work you way through all the right wing wacko parties that you put below the Pirate Party, the Sex Part, and the Motoring Enthusiasts.

But if that's too much of a pain, you can vote for your first choice then let them dole out your preferences to the down-ballot parties. The nice thing is you can have your protest vote without helping, say, the Clive Palmer United Party formed by a coal baron.

 

Haresfur: is compulsory voting helpful or not in your opinion? Do Australians try to become informed or do they just blindly throw darts at the board? 

I was amused that Cleaver Greene was elected to the Senate in season 5 of "Rake" pretty much due to voter confusion and scant attention. Unfortunately the show's lost its zaniness. 

Another idle thought: Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome came out in '85 when we definitely had color photography and videography. So why the b/w photo? I keep seeing the same b/w choice in recently used photos from events in the 70s...
 

I think compulsory voting is a good idea. It's part of your responsibility as a citizen. I think the biggest advantage is that it takes voter suppression out of the picture, mostly. If you are going to make people vote, they will generally not stand for you making it hard for them to vote. And if you really want, you can spoil your ballot. We vote on paper and as near as I can tell get results counted as fast as in the US. Are people informed? Well not the ones who support the racist parties 

I never got into Rake - past my bedtime.
kcar

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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 12:01am



 haresfur wrote:


 islander wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


 islander wrote:



 
We had both, which caused chaos and confusion. Got rid of the caucus and kept the primary, our mail by date is the 10th, so a bunch of people are waiting to see who's still viable after yesterday.

Again - nationwide, same day, plenty of notice, mail in option, maybe the day off.  The system will still have plenty of flaws, but let's at least rationalize the entry point.


 
That would be ok if you had ranked-choice voting or if the bottom candidate gets to decide who to throw their votes to and cascade them up until someone has a majority.

 
Seems complex. Here's an easier alternative that still meets my requirements  (except the mail in part):


 
Well if the Australians can figure it out, anyone else can. So in our elections you can vote for your first choice then rank your next choices. I think there is a minimum number but you don't have to work you way through all the right wing wacko parties that you put below the Pirate Party, the Sex Part, and the Motoring Enthusiasts.

But if that's too much of a pain, you can vote for your first choice then let them dole out your preferences to the down-ballot parties. The nice thing is you can have your protest vote without helping, say, the Clive Palmer United Party formed by a coal baron.

 

Haresfur: is compulsory voting helpful or not in your opinion? Do Australians try to become informed or do they just blindly throw darts at the board? 

I was amused that Cleaver Greene was elected to the Senate in season 5 of "Rake" pretty much due to voter confusion and scant attention. Unfortunately the show's lost its zaniness. 

Another idle thought: Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome came out in '85 when we definitely had color photography and videography. So why the b/w photo? I keep seeing the same b/w choice in recently used photos from events in the 70s...
haresfur

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Location: The Golden Triangle
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 10:33pm



 islander wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


 islander wrote:



 
We had both, which caused chaos and confusion. Got rid of the caucus and kept the primary, our mail by date is the 10th, so a bunch of people are waiting to see who's still viable after yesterday.

Again - nationwide, same day, plenty of notice, mail in option, maybe the day off.  The system will still have plenty of flaws, but let's at least rationalize the entry point.


 
That would be ok if you had ranked-choice voting or if the bottom candidate gets to decide who to throw their votes to and cascade them up until someone has a majority.

 
Seems complex. Here's an easier alternative that still meets my requirements  (except the mail in part):


 
Well if the Australians can figure it out, anyone else can. So in our elections you can vote for your first choice then rank your next choices. I think there is a minimum number but you don't have to work you way through all the right wing wacko parties that you put below the Pirate Party, the Sex Part, and the Motoring Enthusiasts.

But if that's too much of a pain, you can vote for your first choice then let them dole out your preferences to the down-ballot parties. The nice thing is you can have your protest vote without helping, say, the Clive Palmer United Party formed by a coal baron.

islander

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Location: Seattle
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 8:15pm



 haresfur wrote:


 islander wrote:



 
We had both, which caused chaos and confusion. Got rid of the caucus and kept the primary, our mail by date is the 10th, so a bunch of people are waiting to see who's still viable after yesterday.

Again - nationwide, same day, plenty of notice, mail in option, maybe the day off.  The system will still have plenty of flaws, but let's at least rationalize the entry point.


 
That would be ok if you had ranked-choice voting or if the bottom candidate gets to decide who to throw their votes to and cascade them up until someone has a majority.

 
Seems complex. Here's an easier alternative that still meets my requirements  (except the mail in part):


haresfur

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Location: The Golden Triangle
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 2:52pm



 islander wrote:



 
We had both, which caused chaos and confusion. Got rid of the caucus and kept the primary, our mail by date is the 10th, so a bunch of people are waiting to see who's still viable after yesterday.

Again - nationwide, same day, plenty of notice, mail in option, maybe the day off.  The system will still have plenty of flaws, but let's at least rationalize the entry point.


 
That would be ok if you had ranked-choice voting or if the bottom candidate gets to decide who to throw their votes to and cascade them up until someone has a majority.

miamizsun

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Location: (3261.3 Miles SE of RP)
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 2:48pm

it's not too early to get in on the vermin supreme pony parade...

"The mission of this campaign is to spread a loud and unapologetic message of free thought, clean smiles, and ponies. Through satire and humor, I present real issues with fantastical context, in-depth analysis, and a dose of much-needed humor in the political sphere. With thought provoking activism, I stand against the tyrannical duopoly, the violent police state, and all forms of overreaching government.
I seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and are not forced to sacrifice their values for the benefit of others. I believe that respect for individual rights is the essential precondition for a free and prosperous world, that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships, and that only through freedom can peace and prosperity be realized.
Consequently, I will always defend each person’s right to engage in any activity that is peaceful and honest, and welcome the diversity that freedom brings. The world I seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams, in their own ways, without interference from the government or any other authoritarian power. With honesty, empathy, courage, and free ponies for everyone, I will lead past, present, and future America to the pinnacle of freedom under the rule of the one and only Tyrant You Can Trust"

Vermin Supreme President

islander

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Location: Seattle
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 2:45pm



 haresfur wrote:


 islander wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


 rgio wrote:


 islander wrote:
Can we cancel Iowa now?  Also, how about a nationwide standard for candidate selection for the nation?  
 
I think the process is generally OK
, but there are some real issues around the timing of specific primaries and the unreasonable impact they can have.

I can't help but wonder how ESPN or the NCAA would handle this process?

We group the states by region and work our way up from the bottom by electoral college size.  5 regions of 10 states, with primaries every Saturday from February for 10 weeks.   The First primaries would include Vermont, Delaware, New Mexico, North Dakota and Alaska.  The final weekend would be NY, FL, TX, CA and IL.    Make politics fun again!

 
But what the fuck is up with Washington State? Islander?

 

I didn't do anything. I haven't even opened my ballot! 

Just put us down as a win in the D column, not much that anyone does here will change that anyway.  I don't really hate that outcome, but it's definitely a 'less bad than' option. It would be nice to see some other ideas, and some coalitions with common goals.
 
Did you get rid of caucuses completely? Wasn't the primary basically irrelevant for a while?

 
We had both, which caused chaos and confusion. Got rid of the caucus and kept the primary, our mail by date is the 10th, so a bunch of people are waiting to see who's still viable after yesterday.

Again - nationwide, same day, plenty of notice, mail in option, maybe the day off.  The system will still have plenty of flaws, but let's at least rationalize the entry point.


islander

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Location: Seattle
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 2:42pm



 BlueHeronDruid wrote:


 islander wrote:


I didn't do anything. I haven't even opened my ballot! 

Just put us down as a win in the D column, not much that anyone does here will change that anyway.  I don't really hate that outcome, but it's definitely a 'less bad than' option. It would be nice to see some other ideas, and some coalitions with common goals.
 

I have, and chose to wait until after yesterday to see who'd still be viable.

Cannot say I'm a happy camper.
 


haresfur

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Location: The Golden Triangle
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 2:41pm



 islander wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


 rgio wrote:


 islander wrote:
Can we cancel Iowa now?  Also, how about a nationwide standard for candidate selection for the nation?  
 
I think the process is generally OK
, but there are some real issues around the timing of specific primaries and the unreasonable impact they can have.

I can't help but wonder how ESPN or the NCAA would handle this process?

We group the states by region and work our way up from the bottom by electoral college size.  5 regions of 10 states, with primaries every Saturday from February for 10 weeks.   The First primaries would include Vermont, Delaware, New Mexico, North Dakota and Alaska.  The final weekend would be NY, FL, TX, CA and IL.    Make politics fun again!

 
But what the fuck is up with Washington State? Islander?

 

I didn't do anything. I haven't even opened my ballot! 

Just put us down as a win in the D column, not much that anyone does here will change that anyway.  I don't really hate that outcome, but it's definitely a 'less bad than' option. It would be nice to see some other ideas, and some coalitions with common goals.
 
Did you get rid of caucuses completely? Wasn't the primary basically irrelevant for a while?

miamizsun

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Location: (3261.3 Miles SE of RP)
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 2:34pm

just thinking out loud...



biden has one of the best "hair club for men" quilts i've ever seen

and i mean that

BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 2:33pm



 islander wrote:


I didn't do anything. I haven't even opened my ballot! 

Just put us down as a win in the D column, not much that anyone does here will change that anyway.  I don't really hate that outcome, but it's definitely a 'less bad than' option. It would be nice to see some other ideas, and some coalitions with common goals.
 

I have, and chose to wait until after yesterday to see who'd still be viable.

Cannot say I'm a happy camper.
islander

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Location: Seattle
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 2:28pm



 haresfur wrote:


 rgio wrote:


 islander wrote:
Can we cancel Iowa now?  Also, how about a nationwide standard for candidate selection for the nation?  
 
I think the process is generally OK
, but there are some real issues around the timing of specific primaries and the unreasonable impact they can have.

I can't help but wonder how ESPN or the NCAA would handle this process?

We group the states by region and work our way up from the bottom by electoral college size.  5 regions of 10 states, with primaries every Saturday from February for 10 weeks.   The First primaries would include Vermont, Delaware, New Mexico, North Dakota and Alaska.  The final weekend would be NY, FL, TX, CA and IL.    Make politics fun again!

 
But what the fuck is up with Washington State? Islander?

 

I didn't do anything. I haven't even opened my ballot! 

Just put us down as a win in the D column, not much that anyone does here will change that anyway.  I don't really hate that outcome, but it's definitely a 'less bad than' option. It would be nice to see some other ideas, and some coalitions with common goals.
ScottFromWyoming

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Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 2:22pm



 rgio wrote:


 islander wrote:
Can we cancel Iowa now?  Also, how about a nationwide standard for candidate selection for the nation?  
 
I think the process is generally OK, but there are some real issues around the timing of specific primaries and the unreasonable impact they can have.

I can't help but wonder how ESPN or the NCAA would handle this process?

We group the states by region and work our way up from the bottom by electoral college size.  5 regions of 10 states, with primaries every Saturday from February for 10 weeks.   The First primaries would include Vermont, Delaware, New Mexico, North Dakota and Alaska.  The final weekend would be NY, FL, TX, CA and IL.    Make politics fun again!

 
I guess Wyoming counts as preseason then?

haresfur

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Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 2:21pm



 rgio wrote:


 islander wrote:
Can we cancel Iowa now?  Also, how about a nationwide standard for candidate selection for the nation?  
 
I think the process is generally OK
, but there are some real issues around the timing of specific primaries and the unreasonable impact they can have.

I can't help but wonder how ESPN or the NCAA would handle this process?

We group the states by region and work our way up from the bottom by electoral college size.  5 regions of 10 states, with primaries every Saturday from February for 10 weeks.   The First primaries would include Vermont, Delaware, New Mexico, North Dakota and Alaska.  The final weekend would be NY, FL, TX, CA and IL.    Make politics fun again!

 
But what the fuck is up with Washington State? Islander?

islander

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Location: Seattle
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 4, 2020 - 9:05am



 rgio wrote:


 islander wrote:
Can we cancel Iowa now?  Also, how about a nationwide standard for candidate selection for the nation?  
 
I think the process is generally OK, but there are some real issues around the timing of specific primaries and the unreasonable impact they can have.

I can't help but wonder how ESPN or the NCAA would handle this process?

We group the states by region and work our way up from the bottom by electoral college size.  5 regions of 10 states, with primaries every Saturday from February for 10 weeks.   The First primaries would include Vermont, Delaware, New Mexico, North Dakota and Alaska.  The final weekend would be NY, FL, TX, CA and IL.    Make politics fun again!

 

Please no. We already treat it too much like a game. Not everything is entertainment. 
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