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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 7:49am

 islander wrote:


Why are you so angry?




JDwrap

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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 7:45am

 islander wrote:


Why are you so angry?


No anger here, just sadness that the world is allowing some to condone the demise of others over their differences in opinion and beliefs.  Freedom never tollerates such actions.
So if you rather, look to the history of Stalin, Khmer Rouge, Chinese Revolutionaries, Rwandans or countless others that have attempted to erase the rights of a segment of the population in the name of the "Good of the State".  Back to work and the music, and have a great day and may your opinion and beliefs never be cancelled.
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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 7:39am

 islander wrote:
 Red_Dragon wrote:


Please leave me tf out of your idiotic holocaust false-equivalencies. kthxbye


Why are you so angry?
 
Just guessing here but it could be the daily IV drip from "news you can use" sites like wizbang.com?
islander

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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 7:28am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Please leave me tf out of your idiotic holocaust false-equivalencies. kthxbye


Why are you so angry?
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 7:21am

 JDwrap wrote:

Such intollerence Red D.,  has been seen in history before. Are we forgetting, ignorant of history?  Or possibly just in denial that this is how tyranny starts, EVERY TIME. 
In the 30's it all started with a day of boycotting Jewish run businesses and forcing Jewish businesses to close by posting a Nazi at the door . Then the Stars, seizing of businesses/property, ghettos, tatoos and death camps. Your lauded Mandates (Not Laws) are putting tens/hundreds of thousands of non vax card or passport carrying people out of their jobs this month and next, and eventually their homes. These first responders, nurses, EMTs, Police, Firemen, pilots, and others that saved our bacon in 2020/21 are now the enemy?  But you are OK with this, right - all in the name of the greater good. Fools.

Yes I am Vaxed. My body my choice. 

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org...





Please leave me tf out of your idiotic holocaust false-equivalencies. kthxbye
islander

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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 7:09am

 JDwrap wrote:

Such intollerence Red D.,  has been seen in history before. Are we forgetting, ignorant of history?  Or possibly just in denial that this is how tyranny starts, EVERY TIME. 
In the 30's it all started with a day of boycotting Jewish run businesses and forcing Jewish businesses to close by posting a Nazi at the door . Then the Stars, seizing of businesses/property, ghettos, tatoos and death camps. Your lauded Mandates (Not Laws) are putting tens/hundreds of thousands of non vax card or passport carrying people out of their jobs this month and next, and eventually their homes. These first responders, nurses, EMTs, Police, Firemen, pilots, and others that saved our bacon in 2020/21 are now the enemy?  But you are OK with this, right - all in the name of the greater good. Fools.

Yes I am Vaxed. My body my choice. 

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org...





Yeah, in the course of my business and travels this year I've been asked to show my vaccine card.... well, never. But they did demand my passport at the border, why do we bow to such oppression?  So silly having to live by rules, everyone should just live with awe and wonder at how I go about my day unimpeded by care or concern for any one around me.  
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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 7:02am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


to hit denail on the head, you first have to hit denail.


well said.  thanks for the edit. 
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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 6:56am

 JDwrap wrote:

Such intollerence Red D.,  has been seen in history before. Are we forgetting or just in denail that this is how tyranny starts, EVERY TIME. 

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org...



to hit denail on the head, you first have to hit denail.
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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 6:51am

 R_P wrote:

"I don't recall."  There are people who watch Fox more than you do.

Not mostly, but instead likely and consistently the largest group. Still almost 1 in 4 Republicans.

Carlson is a dodging coward too.


Such intollerence Red D.,  has been seen in history before. Are we forgetting, ignorant of history?  Or possibly just in denial that this is how tyranny starts, EVERY TIME. 
In the 30's it all started with a day of boycotting Jewish run businesses and forcing Jewish businesses to close by posting a Nazi at the door . Then the Stars, seizing of businesses/property, ghettos, tatoos and death camps. Your lauded Mandates (Not Laws) are putting tens/hundreds of thousands of non vax card or passport carrying people out of their jobs this month and next, and eventually their homes. These first responders, nurses, EMTs, Police, Firemen, pilots, and others that saved our bacon in 2020/21 are now the enemy?  But you are OK with this, right - all in the name of the greater good. Fools.

Yes I am Vaxed. My body my choice. 

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org...



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Posted: Oct 19, 2021 - 4:27am

don't be afraid to try respectable one on one (pie hole to pie hole) conversations with someone that heeds to be protected

easy the on the personal judgment, condescension and political poop
heavy on the empathy, patience, asking without offending and listening to concerns

building trust is key

maybe
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Posted: Oct 18, 2021 - 3:45pm

Why Public Health Faces a Crisis Across the U.S.
An examination of hundreds of health departments around the country shows that the nation may be less prepared for the next pandemic than it was for the current one.
There are already signs that the growing shortfalls in public health could have lasting impacts beyond the pandemic.

More than 220 departments told The Times they had to temporarily or permanently abandon other public health functions to respond to the pandemic, leading to a spike in drug overdoses and a disturbing drop in reports of child abuse. Several health officials pointed to runaway infections of sexually transmitted diseases, with gonorrhea cases doubling and syphilis on pace to triple in one county in Pennsylvania. Oswego County, N.Y., recorded a surge in lead poisoning. In Texas, requests for exemptions to the usual suite of required childhood immunizations have risen sharply.

Mandates and mobilizations to protect public health have long been part of American life; colonists issued quarantine laws and fines for disobeying them as early as the 1700s. Public health departments later delivered vaccines to halt diseases such as smallpox and polio, upgraded water systems to limit typhoid and cholera, curbed sexually transmitted diseases and helped guarantee the safety of food in restaurants.

But not since the flu pandemic of 1918 has the country faced a disease outbreak that called for unelected health officials to impose widespread mask mandates and business closures.

As scientists helped overcome many infectious diseases, the focus on keeping Americans healthy turned more to individualized treatment for ailments such as heart disease and cancers, said David Rosner, a historian at Columbia University who specializes in the history of public health.

Many, particularly in conservative circles, have increasingly embraced individual rights over collective responsibilities, a trend that Dr. Rosner said is undercutting the notion of a social contract in which people work together to achieve a greater good.

“It’s a depressing moment,” he said. “What makes a society if you can’t even get together around keeping your people healthy?”

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Oct 17, 2021 - 7:41pm

 miamizsun wrote:

diagnosis with prescriptives? 


The Past, Present, and Future of the COVID 19 Pandemic

Alexandra Urman
by Alexandra Urman, Analyst



I love podcasts with transcripts. {transcript not found} . Looks like it has a lot of stuff to absorb tho so I'll stick the phone under my pillow and let 'er rip.



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Posted: Oct 17, 2021 - 5:27pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
 Coaxial wrote:
Booster on board.{#Meditate}


We gotta get ours this month, too.
 
{#Cheers}
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Oct 17, 2021 - 5:13pm

 Coaxial wrote:
Booster on board.
{#Meditate}


We gotta get ours this month, too.
Coaxial

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Posted: Oct 17, 2021 - 5:08pm

Booster on board.{#Meditate}
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Posted: Oct 16, 2021 - 7:55am

diagnosis with prescriptives? 


The Past, Present, and Future of the COVID 19 Pandemic

Alexandra Urman
by Alexandra Urman, Analyst

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Posted: Oct 15, 2021 - 8:14pm

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I have never seen anyone on Fox dis the vaccine and I watch a lot. They do interview some who are opposed for varying reasons in order to present all views, but no one on their payroll has come out against them to my knowledge. (...)

But I am surprised that you would even bother to post this because it contradicts your narrative that it is mostly Trump supporters who are the unvaxxed. This certainly casts some serious doubt to the BS you have been pushing for nearly a year now.

—- pity party purged —-

"I don't recall."  There are people who watch Fox more than you do.

Not mostly, but instead likely and consistently the largest group. Still almost 1 in 4 Republicans.

Carlson is a dodging coward too.

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Posted: Oct 15, 2021 - 7:52pm

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The Unvaccinated May Not Be Who You Think
Just recently, there was a brief glimpse at how Fox News actually looks behind the camera: everyone in the office was wearing masks, even as the hosts have often talked about the alleged tyranny of it all. Stars like Tucker Carlson rant against vaccines, even as their workplace says that more than 90 percent of full-time employees have been vaccinated. Realizing that one may have been conned and manipulated by opportunists who do not practice what they preach may — just may — be the breakthrough for some.
 
Oh fer krise sakes. 

I have never seen anyone on Fox dis the vaccine and I watch a lot.  They do interview some who are opposed for varying reasons in order to present all views, but no one on their payroll has come out against them to my knowledge.  There was even a story by a competitor that Fox mandated vaccination which is false.  If you read the comments to the tweet linked above you will see references to that story.  It also mentions a Washington DC mask mandate for the indoors where these pictures were taken.

What is said at Fox is that the vaccines should be a personal choice.  They speak up on behalf of those who have survived and have natural immunity and how it needs to be recognized as an alternative.

But I am surprised that you would even bother to post this because it contradicts your narrative that it is mostly Trump supporters who are the unvaxxed.  This certainly casts some serious doubt to the BS you have been pushing for nearly a year now.

Now everyone can go ahead and say how stupid I am and subhuman for even watching Fox, let alone admit to it.

I am sure that the gentleman from Oklahoma and his friend in Texas will have some stronger words to describe me as they usually do.
miamizsun

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Posted: Oct 15, 2021 - 2:19pm

and there you have it - heterologous priming gets fantastic results!


R_P

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Posted: Oct 15, 2021 - 11:03am

The Unvaccinated May Not Be Who You Think
There has been strikingly little research on the sociology of the pandemic, even though billions of taxpayer dollars have been spent on vaccines. The assumption that some scientific breakthrough will swoop in to save the day is built too deeply into our national mythology — but as we’ve seen, again and again, it’s not true. (...)

Furthermore, their research finds that the unvaccinated, overall, don’t have much trust in institutions and authorities, and even those they trust, they trust less: 71 percent of the vaccinated trust hospitals and doctors “a lot,” for example, while only 39 percent of the unvaccinated do.

Relentless propaganda against public health measures no doubt contributes to erosion of trust. However, that mistrust may also be fueled by the sorry state of health insurance in this country and the deep inequities in health care — at a minimum, this could make people more vulnerable to misinformation. Research on the unvaccinated by KFF from this September showed the most powerful predictor of who remained unvaccinated was not age, politics, race, income or location, but the lack of health insurance.

The Covid States team shared with me more than a thousand comments from unvaccinated people who were surveyed. Scrolling through them, I noticed a lot more fear than certainty. There was the very, very rare “it’s a hoax” and “it’s a gene therapy” but most of it was a version of: I’m not sure it’s safe. Was it developed too fast? Do we know enough? There was also a lot of fear of side effects, worries about lack of Food and Drug Administration approval and about yet-undiscovered dangers. (...)

This is another area in which the dominant image of the white, QAnon-spouting, Tucker Carlson-watching conspiracist anti-vaxxer dying to own the libs is so damaging. It can lead us to ignore the problem of racialized health inequities, with deep historic roots but also ongoing repercussions, and prevent us from understanding that there are different kinds of vaccine hesitancy which require different approaches. (...)

Of course, there are some people who it seems will never be persuaded. One strategy that has been shown to work is to highlight deceptive practices. In campaigns to keep teens from smoking, advertisements pointed out how the tobacco industry manipulated people. For Covid, the unvaccinated could be shown that they have been taken in by people who have misled them, even while getting vaccinated themselves.

Just recently, there was a brief glimpse at how Fox News actually looks behind the camera: everyone in the office was wearing masks, even as the hosts have often talked about the alleged tyranny of it all. Stars like Tucker Carlson rant against vaccines, even as their workplace says that more than 90 percent of full-time employees have been vaccinated. Realizing that one may have been conned and manipulated by opportunists who do not practice what they preach may — just may — be the breakthrough for some.

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