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miamizsun

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Posted: Sep 10, 2021 - 4:50am

 Lazy8 wrote:
High school classmate just lost a son to covid. A new father. A young man, the age of my youngest. Now they're trying to raise the money for a funeral.
 
that is awful

co-worker lost a client 51 yo 

appeared he was in good health with a few extra pounds

peace
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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 10:26pm

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Up until birth a foetus is part of the mothers body so her choice. And that choice does not affect the health and safety of other people. Your body your choice ends where your choice is a threat to my safety.
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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 10:11pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

High school classmate just lost a son to covid. A new father. A young man, the age of my youngest. Now they're trying to raise the money for a funeral.





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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 9:15pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
High school classmate just lost a son to covid. A new father. A young man, the age of my youngest. Now they're trying to raise the money for a funeral.
 
My condolences to your friend, M. {#Pray}
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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 9:08pm

High school classmate just lost a son to covid. A new father. A young man, the age of my youngest. Now they're trying to raise the money for a funeral.
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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 8:41pm

Vaccination Mandates Are an American Tradition. So Is the Backlash.
“We’re really seeing a lot of echoes of the smallpox era,” said Elena Conis, an associate professor and historian of medicine at the University of California, Berkeley. “Mandates elicit resistance. They always have.”

The roots of U.S. vaccine mandates predate both the U.S. and vaccines. The colonies sought to prevent disease outbreaks by quarantining ships from Europe and sometimes, in the case of smallpox, requiring inoculations: a crude and much riskier predecessor to vaccinations in which doctors rubbed live smallpox virus into broken skin to induce a relatively mild infection that would guard against severe infection later. They were a source of enormous fear and anger.

In January 1777, George Washington mandated inoculations for the soldiers under his command in the Continental Army, writing that if smallpox were to break out, “we should have more to dread from it, than from the Sword of the Enemy.” Notably, it was in large part the soldiers’ desires that overcame his resistance to a mandate.

“They were the ones calling for it,” said Andrew Wehrman, an associate professor of history at Central Michigan University who studies the politics of medicine in the colonial and revolutionary eras. “There’s no record that I have seen — and I’ve looked — of any soldier turning it down, protesting it.”

Buoyed by the success of the mandate, Washington wrote to his brother in June 1777 that he was upset by a Virginia law restricting inoculations. “I would rather move for a Law to compell the Masters of Families to inoculate every Child born within a certain limitted time under severe Penalties,” he wrote.

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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 6:51pm

 rhahl wrote:
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 rhahl wrote:
 This piece shows no awareness that all known vaccines against Covid-19 are non-sterilizing ...
As pointed out in the "superhuman" article below, they're hopeful that vaccinated people who subsequently become infected ("breakthrough") do achieve a sterilization level of protection. It's not known, yet, whether this will prove to be the case but I expect some preliminary findings will be released soon. But the key is that vaccinated people don't die at anywhere near the rate that unvaxxed people do, so I really really don't understand the hesitancy. If they then do contract covid, it will be milder than otherwise, and *may* be the thing that gives them and us that ideal level of protection.
None of this wishful thinking, even if it all comes true, could justify the vaccine only approach we have now; and neither does that graph below showing lower hospitalization rates among highly vaccinated states. It actually makes my point, delta is very dangerous, and just wait til you get a load of mu, which seems to evade the existing vaccines entirely and will likely become the dominant strain by Christmas under current policy. Talking only about vaccines, but not about the need to improve ventilation and wear masks, looks a lot like mass murder to me.
 
Where is the talk about therapies for the infected and the natural immunity of the infected survivors ?

In the end, this being America, is what matters most ...

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"My body, my choice."   You're either all in or you're not.  There can be no exceptions.  That would be like saying someone is a little bit pregnant.  No such thing as a little bit pregnant.  You're either pregnant or you're not.

And just for the record, I am pro - choice and vaccinated ...
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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 12:07pm

 rhahl wrote:
 None of this wishful thinking, even if it all comes true, could justify the vaccine only approach we have now; (...)

I don't think anybody has a vaccine only policy/approach. See protection/prevention. Of course when it comes to others actions listed (such as wearing masks), it becomes very difficult for some people...

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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 11:06am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 rhahl wrote:
 This piece shows no awareness that all known vaccines against Covid-19 are non-sterilizing ...
As pointed out in the "superhuman" article below, they're hopeful that vaccinated people who subsequently become infected ("breakthrough") do achieve a sterilization level of protection. It's not known, yet, whether this will prove to be the case but I expect some preliminary findings will be released soon. But the key is that vaccinated people don't die at anywhere near the rate that unvaxxed people do, so I really really don't understand the hesitancy. If they then do contract covid, it will be milder than otherwise, and *may* be the thing that gives them and us that ideal level of protection.
None of this wishful thinking, even if it all comes true, could justify the vaccine only approach we have now; and neither does that graph below showing lower hospitalization rates among highly vaccinated states. It actually makes my point, delta is very dangerous, and just wait til you get a load of mu, which seems to evade the existing vaccines entirely and will likely become the dominant strain by Christmas under current policy. Talking only about vaccines, but not about the need to improve ventilation and wear masks, looks a lot like mass murder to me.
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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 10:21am


miamizsun

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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 10:21am

i think i posted this original video (longer format) without dr lee's commentary
his play by play makes it easier to understand

if i recall he gets to ivermectin around 24 mins and fluvoxamine at the 26 min mark
enjoy


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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 9:39am

 rhahl wrote:
  
This piece shows no awareness that all known vaccines against Covid-19 are non-sterilizing (as expected for a coronavirus) unlike the smallpox and polio vaccines. Last I heard, the delta strain was 2.0 times more contagious than the wild type in un-vaccinated people, and 1.8 times as contagious in the vaccinated. Not nearly good enough. So the "vaccine only" approach can't work. We need masks, quarantines, testing, school closings, and income support, or we can expect five to seven waves of death over 15 years. We are now in the second wave. It has been obvious for four months that delta was coming. Now mu is coming with no public plans to do anything about it, like develop a new vaccine. Let's be careful out there.


As pointed out in the "superhuman" article below, they're hopeful that vaccinated people who subsequently become infected ("breakthrough") do achieve a sterilization level of protection. It's not known, yet, whether this will prove to be the case but I expect some preliminary findings will be released soon. But the key is that vaccinated people don't die at anywhere near the rate that unvaxxed people do, so I really really don't understand the hesitancy. If they then do contract covid, it will be milder than otherwise, and *may* be the thing that gives them and us that ideal level of protection. 


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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 9:27am

 rgio wrote:
An essay that (maybe aggressively?) sums up how many feel.

Oh My F#cking God, Get the F#cking Vaccine Already, You F#cking F#cks

Note:  I edited the title as not to offend those who may be unvaccinated. 
 
This piece shows no awareness that all known vaccines against Covid-19 are non-sterilizing (as expected for a coronavirus) unlike the smallpox and polio vaccines. Last I heard, the delta strain was 2.0 times more contagious than the wild type in un-vaccinated people, and 1.8 times as contagious in the vaccinated. Not nearly good enough. So the "vaccine only" approach can't work. We need masks, quarantines, testing, school closings, and income support, or we can expect five to seven waves of death over 15 years. We are now in the second wave. It has been obvious for four months that delta was coming. Now mu is coming with no public plans to do anything about it, like develop a new vaccine. Let's be careful out there.
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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 8:37am

 rgio wrote:

An essay that (maybe aggressively?) sums up how many feel.

Oh My F#cking God, Get the F#cking Vaccine Already, You F#cking F#cks

Note:  I edited the title as not to offend those who may be unvaccinated. 



What are you trying to say?
rgio

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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 8:06am

An essay that (maybe aggressively?) sums up how many feel.

Oh My F#cking God, Get the F#cking Vaccine Already, You F#cking F#cks

Note:  I edited the title as not to offend those who may be unvaccinated. 

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Posted: Sep 9, 2021 - 4:29am

evil capitalists strike again!


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Posted: Sep 8, 2021 - 12:23pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 R_P wrote:

SuperScott!



 
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Posted: Sep 8, 2021 - 12:14pm

 R_P wrote:

SuperScott!




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Posted: Sep 8, 2021 - 12:09pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
SuperScott!

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Posted: Sep 8, 2021 - 12:03pm

New Studies Find Evidence Of 'Superhuman' Immunity To COVID-19 In Some Individuals
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New Studies Find Evidence Of 'Superhuman' Immunity To COVID-19 In Some Individuals

September 7, 2021 • That's how some scientists describe the findings of a series of studies looking at the antibodies created by individuals who were infected by the coronavirus and then had an mRNA vaccine.


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