A woman on the ski patrol here died on Friday. The family just realized they needed to cancel the funeral.
Yeah, they canceled a service for a guy we know here. It's all very surreal. Looking at the array of reactions of people it does seem that everyone is in some stage of grief - I find myself in and out of a few stages myself, plus a little paranoia, exhaustion and a bit of resolve now and then.
I don't doubt that. But that is not to say there wasn't a meeting. US ambassador said "it was way over-played". This suggests there was some kind of meeting. And German government sources still count for something in my book. The truth is, neither you nor I will know what was actually said or offered. C'est la vie.
Your response now clearly falls into the conspiracy theory / tinfoil hat zone.
I don't doubt that. But that is not to say there wasn't a meeting. US ambassador said "it was way over-played". This suggests there was some kind of meeting. And German government sources still count for something in my book. The truth is, neither you nor I will know what was actually said or offered. C'est la vie.
The White house consulting with experts in a time of crisis is exactly what I'd hope they'd be doing. In fact, it sounds so...competent that I'm surprised it happened.
If German sources count for something then the Germans to whom the offer was allegedly made ought to count for more than the German newspaper making claims about said offer. Unless everyone except their anonymous source is lying.
I totally agree, all governments should be consulting experts in the field. It is the nationalist bent that makes me uneasy.
And you don't obtain control over a company by speaking to the company. You do that by speaking to its owners. So, there is indeed a constellation under which nobody is in fact lying:
Dietmar Hopp, the owner of the company, sought to put an end to the public fight on Monday saying the business would stay in Germany, but confirmed that Trump had sought to secure exclusivity rights. "It is not possible that a German company develops the vaccine and that it is used exclusively in the U.S. That was not an option for me," he told Germany's Sport1 when asked why he had refused an offer by Trump worth €1 billion.
2. Understand the context vis-Ã -vis Prof. Fake News (aka KarmaKarma aka).
3. TDS bonus: âthe 15, within a couple of days, is going to be down to close to zero. Thatâs a pretty good job weâve done.â
1. I'll leave that to people who read German.
2. I understand the context, try and understand content as well.
3. Trump is a dishonest gasbag. Acknowledged. Over and over. Nothing he says should be trusted at face value. That doesn't make everything said about him true.
2. leads back to 1.
3. It also doesn't mean petty accusations of TDS are true. As the cultists like to say, it's all fake news and TDS. And apparently they got some self-serving allies on occasion (the librul left-wing medias!)...
Something happened. Government sources broke/leaked that story (to a conservative-leaning German publication) shortly after the American CEO left the company without an explanation. And the company appears to be in damage control mode.
Grenell, the über-loyalist toady, denies it. And that settles it. Fake News. TDS. Gotcha!
I don't doubt that. But that is not to say there wasn't a meeting. US ambassador said "it was way over-played". This suggests there was some kind of meeting. And German government sources still count for something in my book. The truth is, neither you nor I will know what was actually said or offered. C'est la vie.
The White house consulting with experts in a time of crisis is exactly what I'd hope they'd be doing. In fact, it sounds so...competent that I'm surprised it happened.
If German sources count for something then the Germans to whom the offer was allegedly made ought to count for more than the German newspaper making claims about said offer. Unless everyone except their anonymous source is lying.
2. Understand the context vis-Ã -vis Prof. Fake News (aka KarmaKarma aka).
3. TDS bonus: âthe 15, within a couple of days, is going to be down to close to zero. Thatâs a pretty good job weâve done.â
1. I'll leave that to people who read German.
2. I understand the context, try and understand content as well.
3. Trump is a dishonest gasbag. Acknowledged. Over and over. Nothing he says should be trusted at face value. That doesn't make everything said about him true.
They are just down the road from me.. shall I go and ask? It wasn't a hoax. The US ambassador's take on it was that it was "way overplayed" which is probably closer to the truth. There is nothing wrong with funding research or fast-tracking a vaccine to stop a pandemic. CureVac has some deep pockets behind it: Dietmar Hopp (SAP founder) and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, to name just two. I doubt that a lack of funding is the issue. Which then leaves the question of why would the US administration want to invest in the firm, either as equity or government grant or whatever. The whiff of wanting control of some kind in return for big dollars still hangs over the episode if you ask me. (and this is corroborated by the reaction of the German government, who would not want to ruffle feathers unnecessarily).
Edit: To give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they just wanted to secure a license, again that would be totally bona fide.
Curevac via Twitter: "To make it clear again on coronavirus: CureVac has not received from the US government or related entities an offer before, during and since the Task Force meeting in the White House on March 2. CureVac rejects all allegations from press."
I don't doubt that. But that is not to say there wasn't a meeting. US ambassador said "it was way over-played". This suggests there was some kind of meeting. And German government sources still count for something in my book. The truth is, neither you nor I will know what was actually said or offered. C'est la vie.
They are just down the road from me.. shall I go and ask? It wasn't a hoax. The US ambassador's take on it was that it was "way overplayed" which is probably closer to the truth. There is nothing wrong with funding research or fast-tracking a vaccine to stop a pandemic. CureVac has some deep pockets behind it: Dietmar Hopp (SAP founder) and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, to name just two. I doubt that a lack of funding is the issue. Which then leaves the question of why would the US administration want to invest in the firm, either as equity or government grant or whatever. The whiff of wanting control of some kind in return for big dollars still hangs over the episode if you ask me. (and this is corroborated by the reaction of the German government, who would not want to ruffle feathers unnecessarily).
Edit: To give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they just wanted to secure a license, again that would be totally bona fide.
Curevac via Twitter: "To make it clear again on coronavirus: CureVac has not received from the US government or related entities an offer before, during and since the Task Force meeting in the White House on March 2. CureVac rejects all allegations from press."
The Breitbart article was accurate in every way I can check. The original Welt am Sonntag story seems to have been a hoax. All the major news organizations that propagated it have since edited their stories. The company at the center of the kerfuffle claims no such offer was made. This appears to be sloppy journalism (coupled with TDS) on a global scale.
Yes, Breitbart has a right-wing bias. The Guardian (and NYT, and too many others to mention) have a left-wing bias. That doesn't make any of them wrong in any particular instance, just as KarmaKarma's obnoxiousness doesn't make him(?) wrong and your snide condescension doesn't make you wrong.
They are just down the road from me.. shall I go and ask? It wasn't a hoax. The US ambassador's take on it was that it was "way overplayed" which is probably closer to the truth. There is nothing wrong with funding research or fast-tracking a vaccine to stop a pandemic. CureVac has some deep pockets behind it: Dietmar Hopp (SAP founder) and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, to name just two. I doubt that a lack of funding is the issue. Which then leaves the question of why would the US administration want to invest in the firm, either as equity or government grant or whatever. The whiff of wanting control of some kind in return for big dollars still hangs over the episode if you ask me. (and this is corroborated by the reaction of the German government, who would not want to ruffle feathers unnecessarily).
Edit: To give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they just wanted to secure a license, again that would be totally bona fide.
The Breitbart article was accurate in every way I can check. The original Welt am Sonntag story seems to have been a hoax. All the major news organizations that propagated it have since edited their stories. The company at the center of the kerfuffle claims no such offer was made. This appears to be sloppy journalism (coupled with TDS) on a global scale.
Yes, Breitbart has a right-wing bias. The Guardian (and NYT, and too many others to mention) have a left-wing bias. That doesn't make any of them wrong in any particular instance, just as KarmaKarma's obnoxiousness doesn't make him(?) wrong and your snide condescension doesn't make you wrong.
ammotures. real preppers have plenty of ammo already
Sorry, I don't find these fuckers funny at all anymore. We live among them and they're downright terrifying.
They've never been funny.
You know we all are not as portrayed on tv. Weapons and ammo are just basics for some and infatuations for others. Personally I put weapons and ammo on the lower end of necessities, most of us are just normal people who think ahead, that's it. If it gets to the point to where I am in firefights with people or the government well I really don't even want to live in a world like that. Some people just like to be prepared and now the whole world is seeing why. Most preppers are decent people and actually support the notion that the more of us that are preparing makes the need for weapons and ammo go down and that is a world we can all aspire to.
