To your question earlier about the apparent disconnect between vaccination increases without what would be assumed logical decreases in infection...
People have decided to do everything they want again, and many are assuming they are less at risk because others are getting vaccinated. The problem with their logic is that the majority remain susceptible. More meals out...more shopping trips....more kids sports. The reality is that if we weren't 30% vaccinated, the numbers would be skyrocketing (assuming similar activity levels).
At this point...I'm done caring. My family is vaccinated, and we're staying away from public exposure when reasonable. No restaurant meals yet....no bars. If people without vaccinations want to party...go get 'em. Take your friends with you too. I'm too tired to fight stupid anymore.
Yep. No one I know or care about in this town hasn't gotten 2 doses and for the last few weeks, anyone who wants a shot can get one, it's wide open. So here in this county if you haven't gotten yours, I think I can safely assume you are on record as having called me a sheep or scared etc. and weren't going to wear a mask etc etc so
To your question earlier about the apparent disconnect between vaccination increases without what would be assumed logical decreases in infection...
People have decided to do everything they want again, and many are assuming they are less at risk because others are getting vaccinated. The problem with their logic is that the majority remain susceptible. More meals out...more shopping trips....more kids sports. The reality is that if we weren't 30% vaccinated, the numbers would be skyrocketing (assuming similar activity levels).
At this point...I'm done caring. My family is vaccinated, and we're staying away from public exposure when reasonable. No restaurant meals yet....no bars. If people without vaccinations want to party...go get 'em. Take your friends with you too. I'm too tired to fight stupid anymore.
Some Canadians would want to edit that into: Making Ontario Great Again!
My self-isolation period is over. Just spent over 1/2 an hour with a BC public health worker. At the end of the conversation, I told her that I am glad we do not live in Alberta or Ontario (where I was born and raised).
Just told my neighbour Kim (who is a biker with a black belt in karate) that we can resume holding hands and kissing.
The district that oversees the school my midmost teaches at decided it was time to have a jr. high volleyball tournament. The did a conference call with the school and told them it was happening and to get their team booked to travel. The school said bad idea, there's this pandemic going on and the kids aren't vaxxed. The Superintendent insists and they are ordered to participate.
The principal mutes the phone while all concerned say "Nope, I ain't going" and then there were some bad words said and then they unmute and say "OK, we'll try to find some chaperones 'cuz the coach ain't going."
They found some parents to chaperone and off flies the team, along with 7(?) other teams and surprise! a kid tests positive. After playing a full day. Every kid is exposed.
So the kids are quarantined in high school classrooms (where they stay on away games) for 10 days. Keep in mind they packed for a weekend. The Superintendent says gee now that everybody's going to be here 10 days they might as well stay and play the regional tournament too.
There are some serious health concerns here. Not just covid, but the injuries possible when you roll your eyes that hard. I mean they could get stuck.
they only seemed concerned with covid infection within 30 days. We're 60 days out. I did check with my infectious disease doc, and she was fine with it.
Yeah I got mine about 3 weeks after. That might have been a bad idea.
Feeling bulletproof now, though. Our county's Rt is something like 1.2 right now, statewide is .98 last I saw. Which is odd because everyone I know who's got a lick of sense here has gotten their second shot, but there are almost zero precautions in stores or restaurants now. So it's still burning through the population that okay I admit to a LOT of Schadenfreude here.
they only seemed concerned with covid infection within 30 days. We're 60 days out. I did check with my infectious disease doc, and she was fine with it.
In videos of the incident obtained by CBC News, multiple men can be seen watching and touching a woman who is dancing. No one in the videos or images is wearing a mask and physical distancing doesnât seem to be in effect. (Twitter) One of the photos attached in the post uploaded to Twitter shows a man holding a woman at a construction site. (Twitter)
The images of the partying emerged on the same-day Ontario recorded 4,736 new COVID-19 cases and health officials warned of a "dire" situation facing the province's healthcare system. On Friday, sources say Ontario Premier Doug Ford's government could enhance its current stay-at-home, in part by tightening rules for the construction industry.
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westslope comments: There is much to unpack here. ..... Never was a big fan of 'peeler bars' and the odd time I visited ages ago, I always felt like an amateur anthropologist.
I wonder if these now-fired, jobless old white dudes will ever live this down. Can you imagine the conversation with the wife: "Dear, I don't want you bringing home any of those sexually transmitted diseases but COVID19 is quite alright."
I think it's interesting that the upset seems to be over the covid rules, not the stripper on site or the vodka on a construction site.
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In videos of the incident obtained by CBC News, multiple men can be seen watching and touching a woman who is dancing. No one in the videos or images is wearing a mask and physical distancing doesnât seem to be in effect. (Twitter) One of the photos attached in the post uploaded to Twitter shows a man holding a woman at a construction site. (Twitter)
The images of the partying emerged on the same-day Ontario recorded 4,736 new COVID-19 cases and health officials warned of a "dire" situation facing the province's healthcare system. On Friday, sources say Ontario Premier Doug Ford's government could enhance its current stay-at-home, in part by tightening rules for the construction industry.
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westslope comments: There is much to unpack here. ..... Never was a big fan of 'peeler bars' and the odd time I visited ages ago, I always felt like an amateur anthropologist.
I wonder if these now-fired, jobless old white dudes will ever live this down. Can you imagine the conversation with the wife: "Dear, I don't want you bringing home any of those sexually transmitted diseases but COVID19 is quite alright."
Maybe this has been discussed, but I keep seeing articles across the political spectrum* that do math: the vaccine is 95% effective, so that means if 1million are vaccinated, then 50,000 (5%) of those will still get covid... or that of every 1000 people in the study, 50 got covid... No, of thousands of people in the test, X number got covid. In the control group, 20x got covid. So the vaccination reduced the rate of infection by 95%.
*Some Bad Person from the right was saying that the numbers meant the vaccination was doing essentially nothing, while NPR et al was saying that it meant a fully vaccinated population would still need to social distance, wear masks, etc.
Right, so if the Covid infection rate for the unprotected population is 10%, or about 33M people (I think there were 32M cases confirmed) in the US each year getting infected...by adding a vaccine that is 95% effective, the # expected to get the virus drops to about 1.7M (not 17M, 5% of the population)...and of those they are much less likely to get seriously sick/hospitalized (not sure what that rate is).
Maybe this has been discussed, but I keep seeing articles across the political spectrum* that do math: the vaccine is 95% effective, so that means if 1million are vaccinated, then 50,000 (5%) of those will still get covid... or that of every 1000 people in the study, 50 got covid... No, of thousands of people in the test, X number got covid. In the control group, 20x got covid. So the vaccination reduced the rate of infection by 95%.
*Some Bad Person from the right was saying that the numbers meant the vaccination was doing essentially nothing, while NPR et al was saying that it meant a fully vaccinated population would still need to social distance, wear masks, etc.
Vitamin C, D, and zinc, several times a day, couldn't hurt. I hear injectable ivermectin in orange juice is good. And if your heart rate drops below 60 go to the ER.
Thanks rahl. Like I said, I am not worried at all about us.
We eat a health balanced diet, lots of fruit, vegetables, nuts, whole grains. I eat a lot of Pacific salmon: fresh caught, smoked, canned, pickled. And other fish, including not so long ago, raw Tuna (man is that expensive!). We often buy farmed Atlantic salmon and I would encourage others to do the same, especially if you are looking for fresh fish off-season.
The wife does not like liver, I do. But I would encourage people on low incomes to eat liver once a month or so. I did in the past.
The wife has gone from exercising regularly to taking a walk once every 10 days and putting on a lot of weight, so I am a little worried about her. Unfortunately diet will not save her, though eating less volume might help a bit.
In passing, there are lots of women in this area who seem to believe they can eat themselves into good health. Ain't true. All those women are unhealthy.
The wife fell sick on Easter Sunday 04 April 2021. Sore throat, fatigue, body aches. No fever.
We are fine and following professional provincial health expert suggestions to the letter. Don't worry about us. Worry about all the folks in our rural town who are tobacco and alcohol addicts and others who avoid exercise. Worry about the folks in our town who believe the pandemic is a hoax and have no intention of getting vaccinated.
I learned today having a conversation with a contact tracer that one 32-year old man had legs amputated. Another person is waiting on a lung transplant. Hopefully as more people are maimed or die, the 'fake news' gang will start to take this epidemic more seriously.
Stay safe gang!
Vitamin C, D, and zinc, several times a day, couldn't hurt. I hear injectable ivermectin in orange juice is good. And if your heart rate drops below 60 go to the ER.
