to the sudden rise of covid joggers:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157164341493946&id=680168945&d=null&vh=i

and nice 

 Alexandra wrote:
 

For something a little more lighthearted....

 black321 wrote:
 

should i wait for a randomized controlled trial?

 miamizsun wrote:
 

solve both by walking further

sirius xm dr radio

just heard that at nyu a new study coming out soon regarding zinc and ionophores early with very encouraging results

same doc involved in a variety of  studies with covid cocktails including remdevisir

says early antiviral treatment gets better results

 black321 wrote:
 

calorie inequality or  exercise inequality?

 islander wrote:
 

hydroponics

 cc_rider wrote:
 

I like to imagine these things as well. I also imagine that someday I'll win the lottery, and that peaceful space aliens will come here with a book called 'to serve man', and that forgetting to reset my odometer means that I really did get 50MPG on my last tank of gas, alas....


Back on topic: When we moved from our more yuppy/upscale/old/white town, just about 15 miles North to the good marina with live aboard allowances and resources, we wound up in a much more blue collar/military/factory(sadly now closed) town.  We still have access to veggies, but the selection is substantially smaller the presentation is noticeably different.  It's very strange, and it's definitely harder to keep a healthy diet going.

 black321 wrote:
 
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps celery!

 cc_rider wrote:
 

inequality exists for sure, but its ultimately the individual who chooses,  and makes strides against those inequalities. fresh food may be harder to come by in some areas, but not impossible. if more chose the harder route, the path to those sources would move closer, and become easier.

 black321 wrote:
 
AND low-income populations are far more likely to have those exact health problems. 'Food deserts' are most acute in low-income areas. Fresh vegetables are harder to find and/or more expensive than cheap, highly-processed, high-calorie items. You can factor in race also, if you're so inclined, but places like, say for example, rural Kentucky (just to pick one at random...) are primarily white.

This pandemic is exacerbating the inequality baked into our society. People are dying due in part to that inequality.

Again, I like to imagine this exercise will mark a shift in our thinking and in our policy goals. Not as Dems and Repubs, but as Americans. Don't seem likely based on current events, but I also like to imagine the good decent folks far outnumber the $hit-stirrers.
c.

From the Boston Globe:

"Doctors and scientists are discovering two common characteristics among many of those who are losing their battle with COVID-19 - they are overweight or obese and suffer from a chronic disease. Ninety four percent of deaths from COVID-19 are in those with an underlying age-related chronic disease, mostly caused by excess body fat."

"COVID-19 has pulled back the curtain to reveal just how unhealthy we are as a nation. Only about 12 percent of Americans are metabolically healthy, without a large waist, high blood pressure, high blood sugar, or high cholesterol. The major driver of poor metabolic health, which increases the risk of hospitalization and death from COVID-19, is the nation’s diet — rich in starch, sugar, and processed foods and low in unprocessed food, vegetables, fruits, whole grains, beans, good fats, seafood, nuts, and seeds.

"While some otherwise healthy individuals with COVID-19 are hospitalized, the vast majority of hospitalized patients are overweight or suffer from a diet-related chronic disease such as diabetes, heart disease, lung disease, or cancer. Adjusting for other risk factors, Americans with obesity have a more than four times higher risk of hospitalization, while those with severe obesity (a body mass index of over 40 versus 30 for obesity) have a more than six times higher risk."

Call it the armed reopening.

While Gov. Greg Abbott this month allowed a wide range of malls, restaurants and other businesses to reopen after a coronavirus lockdown, bars, salons, tattoo parlors and other enterprises where social distancing is more difficult were ordered to remain closed for a longer period.

In at least a half dozen cases around the state in recent days, frustrated small-business owners have turned to heavily armed, militia-style protesters like Mr. Archibald’s group to serve as reopening security squads.

The showy displays of local firepower are creating a dilemma for the authorities, who face public demands for enforcement of social distancing guidelines, but also strong pushback from conservatives in some parts of the state who are convinced that the restrictions go too far.

The broader political split came out into the open this week, when the Republican attorney general, Ken Paxton, issued a warning to three Democratic-led cities — Austin, San Antonio and Dallas — that their local Covid-19 restrictions were illegal under the statewide reopening order issued by Governor Abbott, also a Republican.

The armed gatherings are in some ways a Texas thing — a combination of longstanding antigovernment and pro-gun movements in an independent state where “Come and Take It” flags are commonplace and amateur warriors patrol the southern border with Mexico.

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
I'm not the smartest, obviously, but I'm seeing a trend here.

 kurtster wrote:
 

Stick to discussing the issues and providing evidence for your opinions. You keep mentioning that you've been posting here for years and how you have a thick skin, but then you complain about being insulted or neglected. Your posts that started this back and forth read like you were trying to pick a fight with someone, anyone...and I just had no interest in responding.

Would you like to discuss the coronavirus? 'Cause that's kind of a big deal these days. And it's what this thread is all about.

 Steely_D wrote:
 

 buddy wrote:
 

Six damn feet away, mmkay?

I will stand with Dr. Fauci.

 kurtster wrote:
 
So you are saying you are a troll.

Oh, I skim enough to know about your hurt feelings and what aboutism.

ETA: I try to avoid going down the rat-hole of meta-discussions about who said what in the threads. I think it is respectful to take what people say at face value unless it is clearly #snark. That is unless you are saying I shouldn't take anything you say at face value.