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Posted: Jan 19, 2023 - 2:33pm

 westslope wrote:

Joe Rogan is American, right?

Then he is hardwired to have trouble understanding history.  

American voters seemed to have forgotten most of the nitty, gritty of the Vietnam War.  Why should Joe understand what was going on more than 2 millennia ago?  

Ahistorical Americans put on quite the show of righteous ignorance not so long ago during the chaotic exit from Afghanistan.



This is too vague for me to understand what it is that your southern neighbors forgot.  Please expand.  P.s. I'm old enough to remember Viet Nam and i was a voter in the last election and pretty much 100% of all the prior.  Just don't make the connection.  And willing to assume its something i missed.
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Posted: Feb 7, 2022 - 10:25am

 miamizsun wrote:
i did put this on in the background and had to pause several times due to life
although sort of repetitive/circular at times i enjoyed the exchange
i got the impression that this was a precursor to a main event...

The conversation continued for another 4+ hours:

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Posted: Feb 7, 2022 - 9:29am

 Lazy8 wrote:

This is 4.5 hours well spent.



i did put this on in the background and had to pause several times due to life
although sort of repetitive/circular at times i enjoyed the exchange
i got the impression that this was a precursor to a main event...
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Posted: Feb 6, 2022 - 6:56pm

 black321 wrote:
Cult of personality thing then? Does that make any of his points/thoughts less relevant?
This is a long, but respectable discussion...probably good for a road trip.
p.s.,ultimately these discussions revolve around God/No God...good luck with that. 
But i think they flesh out some of the misconceptions held between religion/belief and atheism, which are valuable. 

This is 4.5 hours well spent.
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Posted: Feb 6, 2022 - 2:25pm

Of platforms, publishers, and responsibility
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Posted: Feb 6, 2022 - 1:00pm

 Ohmsen wrote:

I stand corrected. Otherwise, large parts of the 'beloved' movie industry would be subject (not to Spotify) as well... Thanks!



Yes, that is all too true about the movie industry, sadly.

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Posted: Feb 6, 2022 - 12:49pm

 Ohmsen wrote:

Is it really that simple? What's the official role of the (free) press in your country's constitution? ...and what has become of it, until today? ... Whistleblower protections, check: "According to Reporters Without Borders the United States ranks behind most other Western nations for press freedom, but ahead of most Asian, African and South American countries." 

Spotify's new content guidelines prohibit "dangerous" content that "advocates or glorifies serious physical harm towards an individual or group". It also prohibits content that "glorifies" breaking the law - but isn't that what 80 or 90% of hip hop music is?


"It also prohibits content that "glorifies" breaking the law..." That phrase does not appear in the guidelines which you posted the link to. There is a phrase prohibiting "content that is intended to promote or commit an illegal act of any kind".  "Promoting" is not the same as "glorifying".
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Posted: Feb 6, 2022 - 10:01am

 islander wrote:


I'm honestly a little surprised the right isn't more concerned about the precedent this would set limiting the ability of private business to control their own image/brand/content/employees.  But then again, they don't care about precedent unless it works in their favor, see: Jonathan Turley.



See: the past three Supreme Court Justices
See: gerrymandering
See: book cancel culture
See: storming the Capitol
See: nominating someone for President who’s never held public office 
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Posted: Feb 6, 2022 - 9:52am

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Speech is free. The First Amendment (for those outside the States) means he can’t be arrested for what he says. That’s all. He can still be fired, criticized, mocked, and ignored.

However, reprehensible speech is irresponsible.



I'm honestly a little surprised the right isn't more concerned about the precedent this would set limiting the ability of private business to control their own image/brand/content/employees.  But then again, they don't care about precedent unless it works in their favor, see: Jonathan Turley.

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Posted: Feb 6, 2022 - 5:30am

Can Joe Rogan Save Free Speech? Jonathan Turley
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Posted: Feb 5, 2022 - 10:23am

Joe Rogan Apologizes for ‘Shameful’ Past Use of Racial Slur
His apology came as listeners said that as many as 70 episodes of “The Joe Rogan Experience” podcast had been quietly taken off Spotify; the company has yet to comment on the reported removals.

Ek: “it is important to me that we don’t take on the position of being content censor.”

"Last week, a Spotify spokesman revealed that the company had removed 20,000 podcast episodes related to Covid-19 which fell foul of their guidelines."

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Posted: Feb 5, 2022 - 8:11am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

yep. you've turned me round.  I completely agree with him.


not me, (taylor) swifties are not the worst social collective   
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Posted: Feb 4, 2022 - 8:39pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
Because no discussion of American culture is complete until Jon Stewart weighs in.
 
yep. you've turned me round.  I completely agree with him.
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Posted: Feb 4, 2022 - 4:12pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

Yes, Joe Rogan—the one asking the questions—is American. Jordan Peterson—the one answering the questions—is Canadian.

Lazy8.  Always ruining the narrative with irrelevant facts.....  

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Posted: Feb 4, 2022 - 3:00pm

Because no discussion of American culture is complete until Jon Stewart weighs in.

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Posted: Feb 4, 2022 - 12:54pm

Withdrawal symptoms? Joe's back!
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Posted: Feb 4, 2022 - 12:48pm

 westslope wrote:

Joe Rogan is American, right?

Then he is hardwired to have trouble understanding history.  

American voters seemed to have forgotten most of the nitty, gritty of the Vietnam War.  Why should Joe understand what was going on more than 2 millennia ago?  

Ahistorical Americans put on quite the show of righteous ignorance not so long ago during the chaotic exit from Afghanistan.


Yes, Joe Rogan—the one asking the questions—is American. Jordan Peterson—the one answering the questions—is Canadian.
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Posted: Feb 4, 2022 - 12:44pm

 R_P wrote:

Yes, you're missing a good interviewer.



i'll add that to my longo list
and i'm open for "friendly" suggestions
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Posted: Feb 4, 2022 - 12:32pm

 westslope wrote:

Ahistorical Americans put on quite the show of righteous ignorance not so long ago during the chaotic exit from Afghanistan.


You do realize that Canada removed its troops from Afghanistan in 2014...and was there as recently as August (2021) picking up 3,700 people left behind by their withdrawal 7 years earlier.  There are still people there awaiting Canadian relocation support.  

It's amazing how much better everyone would have done something, had they not abandoned it a long time ago. 


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Posted: Feb 4, 2022 - 12:13pm

Jordan Peterson's claims about climate modelling on Joe Rogan podcast debunked by scientists
Peterson said: "There's no such thing as climate, right?"

Wrong.
Speaking on Rogan’s podcast last week, Peterson claimed that the climate was too complex to be modelled correctly and the models we do have are full of errors. This was quickly highlighted by scientists as a false claim.

Peterson was widely criticised for spreading climate misinformation on a podcast with over 11 million listeners per episode. He responded on Twitter by citing a book called Hot Talk, Cold Science by S. Fred Singer.

Singer was an American atmospheric physicist who died in 2020. He argued that climate change was natural and not exacerbated by humans emitting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. DeSmog reports that Singer was funded by known climate change sceptics, including the Heartland Institute.

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