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Posted: Jan 31, 2022 - 2:17pm

 Manbird wrote:
That's big money in radio world. My music, which is on about half of the more popular
pay stations, earns me about .002 per play. After 10 years I've yet to see a royalty check. 
 
should i put it on and let it play 24/7?
or just boot up my hobo crypto mining rig?
please advise
wait, www.joerogansbrain.com is available
maybe we could do something with that
because hawk chow
oldviolin

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Posted: Jan 31, 2022 - 2:16pm

 Manbird wrote:
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Welp, I know more about who Joe Rogan is now than I did last week; I thought he was a comedian with a radio show spun off from Howard Stern or something. So this whole thing has gotten Neil some headlines and sent people to Spotify/Rogan in droves, I suspect. I mean if Joe's message was their thing but they didn't know about him or where to hear him, hey there you go. Win-win, I guess. I also learned that Spotify has $100 million to pay him but .3¢ to pay for a song. 
That's big money in radio world. My music, which is on about half of the more popular
pay stations, earns me about .002 per play. 
 
 Seems like one of them would kick in with a pack of Slim Jims or a pudding cup or something...
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Posted: Jan 31, 2022 - 2:09pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Welp, I know more about who Joe Rogan is now than I did last week; I thought he was a comedian with a radio show spun off from Howard Stern or something. So this whole thing has gotten Neil some headlines and sent people to Spotify/Rogan in droves, I suspect. I mean if Joe's message was their thing but they didn't know about him or where to hear him, hey there you go. Win-win, I guess.

I also learned that Spotify has $100 million to pay him but .3¢ to pay for a song. 


That's big money in radio world. My music, which is on about half of the more popular
pay stations, earns me about .05 - .002 per play. After 10 years I've yet to see a royalty check. 
I'd love to see what a big timer earns in radio/streaming royalties for their work. 




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Posted: Jan 31, 2022 - 1:57pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

Sticking with the WW2 theme for a moment: I'm sure you've heard the reports about a school board in McMinn County, Tennessee banning the graphic novel Maus from its curriculum. I'm sure you also saw the many heroic social media posts urging students to go out and read Maus not because it is a gripping personal narrative about the holocaust (which it is) but specifically because someone was trying to suppress it.

Are all those heroic champions of free speech wrong in that instance, and why shouldn't that advice apply to Joe Rogan's podcast?


Welp, I know more about who Joe Rogan is now than I did last week; I thought he was a comedian with a radio show spun off from Howard Stern or something. So this whole thing has gotten Neil some headlines and sent people to Spotify/Rogan in droves, I suspect. I mean if Joe's message was their thing but they didn't know about him or where to hear him, hey there you go. Win-win, I guess.

I also learned that Spotify has $100 million to pay him but .3¢ to pay for a song. 
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Posted: Jan 31, 2022 - 12:49pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
Sticking with the WW2 theme for a moment: I'm sure you've heard the reports about a school board in McMinn County, Tennessee banning the graphic novel Maus from its curriculum. I'm sure you also saw the many heroic social media posts urging students to go out and read Maus not because it is a gripping personal narrative about the holocaust (which it is) but specifically because someone was trying to suppress it.

Are all those heroic champions of free speech wrong in that instance, and why shouldn't that advice apply to Joe Rogan's podcast?

Quick, get those "supplements" while you still can...

And remember, kids, rules are for chumps.
Spotify, which says its podcast platform has 299 million monthly listeners, prohibits hate speech in its guidelines. In a response to inquiries, the company said in a written statement that it also prohibits content “that promotes dangerous false or dangerous deceptive content about Covid-19, which may cause offline harm and/or pose a direct threat to public health.” The company added that it had removed content that violated its policies. But the episode with Mr. DeYoung’s conversation with Mr. Rohrer was still available via Spotify.

Dawn Ostroff, Spotify’s content and advertising business officer, said at a conference last month that the company was making “very aggressive moves” to invest more in content moderation. “There’s a difference between the content that we make and the content that we license and the content that’s on the platform,” she said, “but our policies are the same no matter what type of content is on our platform. We will not allow any content that infringes or that in any way is inaccurate.”

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Posted: Jan 31, 2022 - 12:44pm

 miamizsun wrote:

true story
long ago, my young teen son was a huge rage against the machine fan
begged to go to an outdoor festival, so i take him 
huge place, several stages and a laundry list of bands
we just finished watching the melvins and humped it to the rage stage
thought we were in a somewhat safe area
when they popped all "mosh" hell broke loose
it was all i could do to "fight" the crowd and get to a safer spot
today i'm sure the handlers would simply pull the band's power to stop the slam dancing
either that or tear gas (ok maybe catapulting a ska-doodle of live porcupines into the throbbing masses might work) 

just look at the recent astroworld houston festival
once the crowd starts going nuts it's a wavy stampede
reserved seating if i'm there or watching online
 
Occasionally one might turn their back on the whole fandango, move to an acutely decipherable distance and acutely observe whilst deciphering...

I remember once while field training in Grafenwoehr Germany a dissimilar experience. Before the rains came and turned the dirt roads into milkshake, the M60 tanks and other vehicles rumbled day and night, turning it all into clouds of fine powder which clung to absolutely everything. At night there was light discipline so there was basically zero visibility. You could feel the ground shake and hear the diesel roar and clicking squeaking tracks but you wouldn't see the cat eyes until it was right on top of you. There were unfortunate accidents occasionally.
There weren't billets but there were shower huts. In the winter there was no hot water so most wouldn't brave it. Of course, I had to poke the bear. I would turn on the water and strip while I waited for it to not get hot, then jump in for maybe a minute and man was that a wake up.
I look back on that long ago with a cautionary glaze and a survivors smile...
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Posted: Jan 31, 2022 - 12:37pm

 Steely_D wrote:
You know, it’s important for me to let Hitler and Mussolini have their say. I just want to hear the other side of the conversation. That’s what makes the show interesting.

(BTW, if you keep listening he tells a story about how he was hired as security for a show but, if it got rowdy, he’d put on a hoodie and walk away)

Sticking with the WW2 theme for a moment: I'm sure you've heard the reports about a school board in McMinn County, Tennessee banning the graphic novel Maus from its curriculum. I'm sure you also saw the many heroic social media posts urging students to go out and read Maus not because it is a gripping personal narrative about the holocaust (which it is) but specifically because someone was trying to suppress it.

Are all those heroic champions of free speech wrong in that instance, and why shouldn't that advice apply to Joe Rogan's podcast?
miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 31, 2022 - 9:14am

 Steely_D wrote:
You know, it’s important for me to let Hitler and Mussolini have their say. I just want to hear the other side of the conversation. That’s what makes the show interesting. (BTW, if you keep listening he tells a story about how he was hired as security for a show but, if it got rowdy, he’d put on a hoodie and walk away)
 
true story
long ago, my young teen son was a huge rage against the machine fan
begged to go to an outdoor festival, so i take him 
huge place, several stages and a laundry list of bands
we just finished watching the melvins and humped it to the rage stage
thought we were in a somewhat safe area
when they popped all "mosh" hell broke loose
it was all i could do to "fight" the crowd and get to a safer spot
today i'm sure the handlers would simply pull the band's power to stop the slam dancing
either that or tear gas (ok maybe catapulting a ska-doodle of live porcupines into the throbbing masses might work) 

just look at the recent astroworld houston festival
once the crowd starts going nuts it's a wavy stampede
reserved seating if i'm there or watching online
rgio

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Posted: Jan 31, 2022 - 9:04am

 Steely_D wrote:


You know, it’s important for me to let Hitler and Mussolini have their say. I just want to hear the other side of the conversation. That’s what makes the show interesting.

(BTW, if you keep listening he tells a story about how he was hired as security for a show but, if it got rowdy, he’d put on a hoodie and walk away)

What I took from the video is that he's a smart, reasonable guy who knows that conspiracies sell.  He says all the right things about listening to all points of view, but HE doesn't present the middle...he goes along with the crazy.  The middle doesn't sell, and he's in the business of selling.

In some respects, his apology makes things worse.  He will continue to propagate dis or misinformation, and he's created a bit of a shield now.  If only he could build an audience to engage all sides... but the consumer isn't into that.  We like reinforcement...not engaging conversation.

miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 31, 2022 - 4:46am

omg!!!!!!!!



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Posted: Jan 30, 2022 - 6:22pm

 Ohmsen wrote:

I stopped right there.
miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 30, 2022 - 3:40pm

 haresfur wrote:


Hey, I can make debit purchases with my Fitbit but it would be a lot easier to just have a chip implanted in my hand.


i think it was the rage a few years back (with some techies like peter diamandis) to get an rfid chip "business card" in your hand
there was a company here in south florida that was moving on this for medical purposes
medical history in case you were unconscious or unable to communicate
not sure what happened them

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Posted: Jan 30, 2022 - 3:35pm

 miamizsun wrote:


sweet jump-roping jesus!
hanging out with alex jones is a really stupid idea
probably close to the top on anyone's stupid list
just exceptionally bad personal judgement
not sure what "chip" they're talking about
probably something along the lines of an rfid information chip 
similar to something you might inject under your pet's skin in case it was lost to identify the owner
i think there's a company or two proposing to use them as a "vaccine passport"







Hey, I can make debit purchases with my Fitbit but it would be a lot easier to just have a chip implanted in my hand.
miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 30, 2022 - 3:30pm

 R_P wrote:

Only took a few seconds, yadda, yadda, yadda, Google...

Spotify’s Joe Rogan falsely claims that “actual microchips” are “being injected into your arm to see if you have COVID-19”
On the May 14 edition of his Spotify podcast, Joe Rogan falsely claimed
that far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones was right “about actual
microchips being injected into your arm to see if you have COVID-19.”
Rogan repeatedly praised Jones, asserting that he is “right 80% of the
time.”
Maybe Rogan likes the "supplements" business model of caustic crank Jones.



sweet jump-roping jesus!
hanging out with alex jones is a really stupid idea
probably close to the top on anyone's stupid list
just exceptionally bad personal judgement
not sure what "chip" they're talking about
probably something along the lines of an rfid information chip 
similar to something you might inject under your pet's skin in case it was lost to identify the owner
i think there's a company or two proposing to use them as a "vaccine passport"





edit: meant to suggest hanlon's razor should apply here
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Posted: Jan 30, 2022 - 1:49pm

 Steely_D wrote:
 Ohmsen wrote:

American liberals are obsessed with finding ways to silence and censor their adversaries.
I stopped right there

(Look to people like Huntsman, Cheney, or even Romney.)

 
And I stopped right there.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2022 - 11:58am

 miamizsun wrote:
does anyone have any evidence that he is intentionally deceiving?
that might imply that he knows better

Only took a few seconds, yadda, yadda, yadda, Google...

Spotify’s Joe Rogan falsely claims that “actual microchips” are “being injected into your arm to see if you have COVID-19”
On the May 14 edition of his Spotify podcast, Joe Rogan falsely claimed
that far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones was right “about actual
microchips being injected into your arm to see if you have COVID-19.”
Rogan repeatedly praised Jones, asserting that he is “right 80% of the
time.”
Maybe Rogan likes the "supplements" business model of caustic crank Jones.

miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 30, 2022 - 11:15am

 Proclivities wrote:
Actually, what Rogan distributes should be called "disinformation" instead of "misinformation".



disinformation noun < U >US /ˌdɪs.ɪn.fɚˈmeɪ.ʃən/ UK /ˌdɪs.ɪn.fəˈmeɪ.ʃən/
false information spread in order to deceive people:

They claimed there was an official disinformation campaign by the government.
=====================================================================
does anyone have any evidence that he is intentionally deceiving?
that might imply that he knows better
westslope

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Posted: Jan 30, 2022 - 10:32am

 Proclivities wrote:


Actually, what Rogan distributes should be called "disinformation" instead of "misinformation".

That is indeed an extremely important distinction.  

If you have ever lived a village or small town you know how gossip and rumours can circulate and quickly misrepresent what happened.   There is no evil intention to mislead.  Same with daily media that constantly crank out news.  If you have ever worked in that sphere either as a journalist or as a lobbyist/media relations/political marketing person, you know there are lots and lots of mistakes.  Extremely few are deliberate.

I love the term 'mainstream media'.  For me, it is dead giveaway that the person using the term does not understand the sociology of modern media.  

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Posted: Jan 30, 2022 - 7:32am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


I bolded the correction for you.


Actually, what Rogan distributes should be called "disinformation" instead of "misinformation".
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Posted: Jan 29, 2022 - 3:04pm

 islander wrote:


?  Did I miss something there? 


I bolded the correction for you.
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