A Politico/Morning Consult Poll shows that Trump's attacks on BLM has caused support for it to drop, BUT that change isn't translating into more support for Trump.
But a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll shows more voters favor Joe Biden to handle public safety.
President Donald Trump has spent weeks attacking the Black Lives Matter movement, and it's moving the polls â though not necessarily in a way that boosts his electoral chances.
Voters' favorable views of the Black Lives Matter movement has dropped by 9 percentage points since June, including a 13-point dip among Republicans, according to new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll. The shift comes after the recent police shooting of another Black man: Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wis., last week.
Trump's recent emphasis on the protests in cities like Kenosha and Portland, Ore., isn't exactly to his political benefit. Despite Trump's attempts to cast himself as the law-and-order candidate since George Floyd's killing in May, the POLITICO/Morning Consult poll shows more voters trust former Vice President Joe Biden over Trump to handle public safety, 47 percent to 39 percent. Voters also prefer Biden on race relations by a 19-point margin. Though a narrow majority of voters still view the Black Lives Matter movement favorably, bipartisan support has eroded over the past two months, as Trump has encouraged police violence against protesters, called the Black Lives Matter movement a âsymbol of hate,â âdiscriminatory,â âMarxistâ and âbad for Black people.â This week, Trump has tried to pin blame on Biden for violence in American cities.
... Overall, the new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll shows Trump with a 42 percent approval rating, unchanged from last week, before the Republican convention. The poll surveyed 1,988 registered voters and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points. Biden addressed Trump's attacks and the racial reckoning across the country on Monday. "Does anyone believe there will be less violence in America if Donald Trump is reelected?" Biden said in a speech in Pennsylvania. "We need justice in America. And we need safety in America."
Morning Consult's latest presidential tracking poll shows Biden 8 points ahead of Trump, equal to his lead before both conventions last month. Some other public surveys do show a slight tightening in the Biden-Trump race, though there is still a lack of direct data tying the protests or shootings of civilians in Kenosha and Portland to Biden or Trumpâs standing electorally.
Cliff Albright, co-founder of the voter engagement group Black Voters Matter, which is one of hundreds of organizations engaged in the movement, considered the dip in support for Black Lives Matter âpredictable" and said it could provide a needed gut check on âoverconfidenceâ among Democrats.
âWe don't want to underestimate Trump,â he said. âBut also not getting carried away by some of the messaging and some of the poll variation that we've seen.â
Democratic pollster Terrance Woodbury said a recent statewide poll in Georgia conducted by his firm, HIT Strategies, found 79 percent of voters in the burgeoning battleground state believe racial and ethnic discrimination is a problem in the country.
âThe problem is that safety and security and crime are not at the top of white women, suburban women's priority list. Covid-19, economy and racism remain at the top of their priority list,â said Woodbury. âOne reason why reduction in support for BLM doesn't necessarily equate to reduction of support for Biden is that Biden isn't running to be president of BLM voters.â
Activists dismiss much of the polling on Black Lives Matter, pointing to the low public support in the 1950s and 1960s for integration, the March on Washington and sit-in demonstrations during the civil rights movement.
And another poll released Wednesday by Grinnell College found that when the issue of racial inequality was framed around victims of police violence, respondents' views of the current state of racial equality changed. When those surveyed were reminded of Floydâs death, those who said the country is âvery close,â âpretty closeâ or âalready thereâ on full equality for African Americans dropped from 50 percent to 31 percent.
Well I happen to think that these mythical protests may have an impact on the election. And blaming these mythical protests 100% on Trump will surely have a result that is opposite of the intentions of the accusers. It's like blaming the Ferguson riots on Obama.
Or blaming Portland et al on Biden when it is happening on your watch.
It's happening on the watch of Ted Wheeler, and Kate Brown. Both of whom have repeatedly vehemently refused federal assistance when offered - and remains on offer.
Those are the very fine people who the voters will hold accountable. They are both toast.
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Sep 3, 2020 - 6:28am
kurtster wrote:
Well I happen to think that these mythical protests may have an impact on the election. And blaming these mythical protests 100% on Trump will surely have a result that is opposite of the intentions of the accusers. It's like blaming the Ferguson riots on Obama.
Or blaming Portland et al on Biden when it is happening on your watch.
i'm not just speaking about the followers, i'm talking about the blm/anti leaders too
expect it to be trotted out and played ad nauseum
this could possibly turn a lay-up to win the election into a half court buzzer beater...
It's very unfortunate that with all the things that go into running a country that this election is coming down to ONE issue. And in only a few cities in America.
i'm not sure it is one issue for everyone
depends on how it is sold or framed
it could be single issue, it might be a core philosophical issue and/or lack of credibility/trust
or a combo/cocktail irrational persuasion and beliefs
identity politics, for lack of a better term, is devoid of logic and reason
which fosters cult like thought used to re-racialize and re-segregate society
i'm not just speaking about the followers, i'm talking about the blm/anti leaders too
expect it to be trotted out and played ad nauseum
this could possibly turn a lay-up to win the election into a half court buzzer beater...
It's very unfortunate that with all the things that go into running a country that this election is coming down to ONE issue. And in only a few cities in America.
Given the pandemic and unemployment numbers—both of which will likely increase this Fall—I don't see this election as coming down to protests, riots, and violence. If you can't find work, feed your kids or stay in your home, that's going to have a bigger impact on whether you vote and how you vote.
Well you know we all see what we want to. Protest, riots and violence are all acts of desperation to attract attention to their woes, at least that is what they tell me. Of course it will also garner the wrong kinds of attention and backlash. I think the protesters and rioters are doing a better job than you give them credit for.
A sound byte from esteemed democrat Jerry Nadler of The House impeachment fame has him saying that all of the protests we are hearing about (regarding Portland, Ore) "are a myth".
Well I happen to think that these mythical protests may have an impact on the election. And blaming these mythical protests 100% on Trump will surely have a result that is opposite of the intentions of the accusers. It's like blaming the Ferguson riots on Obama.
i'm not just speaking about the followers, i'm talking about the blm/anti leaders too
expect it to be trotted out and played ad nauseum
this could possibly turn a lay-up to win the election into a half court buzzer beater...
It's very unfortunate that with all the things that go into running a country that this election is coming down to ONE issue. And in only a few cities in America.
Given the pandemic and unemployment numbersâboth of which will likely increase this FallâI don't see this election as coming down to protests, riots, and violence. If you can't find work, feed your kids or stay in your home, that's going to have a bigger impact on whether you vote and how you vote.
Well you know we all see what we want to. Protest, riots and violence are all acts of desperation to attract attention to their woes, at least that is what they tell me. Of course it will also garner the wrong kinds of attention and backlash. I think the protesters and rioters are doing a better job than you give them credit for.
i'm not just speaking about the followers, i'm talking about the blm/anti leaders too
expect it to be trotted out and played ad nauseum
this could possibly turn a lay-up to win the election into a half court buzzer beater...
It's very unfortunate that with all the things that go into running a country that this election is coming down to ONE issue. And in only a few cities in America.
Given the pandemic and unemployment numbers—both of which will likely increase this Fall—I don't see this election as coming down to protests, riots, and violence. If you can't find work, feed your kids or stay in your home, that's going to have a bigger impact on whether you vote and how you vote.
i'm not just speaking about the followers, i'm talking about the blm/anti leaders too
expect it to be trotted out and played ad nauseum
this could possibly turn a lay-up to win the election into a half court buzzer beater...
It's very unfortunate that with all the things that go into running a country that this election is coming down to ONE issue. And in only a few cities in America.
In some kind of alternate reality, politicians such as Joe Biden would plead with protesters to forgo violence.
For their own good. To the extent that violent protesters supporting the BLM movement actually care about Black Lives.
No moralizing, no sermonizing. Just say that violence will work against the cause. Violence will make it easy to a) lose control of the streets, and b) lose control over the message and the broader narrative.
Biden (or others) could use the Palestinian cause as an example of where violent protest and resistance have proven utterly dysfunctional. Aside from the issue that Biden and most Democrats fully support the Israeli nuclear weapons backed ethnic cleansing terrorist nation building programme.
The real underlying fundamental problem is that most North Americans support political violence.
“Members of these gang factions have been actively searching for, and filming, police officers in performance of their official duties,” the alert continues. “The purpose of which is to catch on film an officer drawing his/her weapon on any subject and the subsequent ‘shoot on-sight’ of said officer, in order to garner national media attention.”
âIâm Joe Biden, and I want to show you that electing me would help with the problem of rioting in America, not make it worse. Portland - Iâd like you to not riot or even protest just for this evening, to show your support for a change in who holds the office of the President. One quiet night to show the world that you really do want change at the top. Thank you.â
Say it worked. A peaceful night in Portland.
Biden and the Democratic party are in cahoots with the rioters. They listen to him, he directs them.
He could have said this at any time: "I'm Joe Biden and I want you to stop." He didn't. It was just for one night as a campaign stunt. The violence goes on and it's all his fault.
Say it didn't. He asks them, politely, to stop and they don't. Obviously his soft-on-crime namby-pamby approach is the wrong way to deal with this situationâwe need an authoritarian strongman to crack down and restore law&order.
This is maybe the worst possible plan for both calming the violence and getting people to trust Biden.
Sounds like it's all in how you want to frame it. "Cahoots" vs "respected by."
"Campaign stunt" vs "shows you his influence"
"All his fault" vs "Trump can't stop it"
"worst possible plan" vs "how's the current plan workin' for you?"
âIâm Joe Biden, and I want to show you that electing me would help with the problem of rioting in America, not make it worse. Portland - Iâd like you to not riot or even protest just for this evening, to show your support for a change in who holds the office of the President. One quiet night to show the world that you really do want change at the top. Thank you.â
Say it worked. A peaceful night in Portland.
Biden and the Democratic party are in cahoots with the rioters. They listen to him, he directs them.
He could have said this at any time: "I'm Joe Biden and I want you to stop." He didn't. It was just for one night as a campaign stunt. The violence goes on and it's all his fault.
Say it didn't. He asks them, politely, to stop and they don't. Obviously his soft-on-crime namby-pamby approach is the wrong way to deal with this situation—we need an authoritarian strongman to crack down and restore law&order.
This is maybe the worst possible plan for both calming the violence and getting people to trust Biden.
