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Posted: Jun 15, 2020 - 9:11am

Oh I dunno.  Maybe try something positive this week?

Be the change you are looking for.

Here's my contribution:

"Black or white, relax and have a beer": Best friends start a movement in their neighborhood

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/b...
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020 - 11:40pm



 R_P wrote:

You need some of these...



 

Oh I would fly back to OKC if I could wear this. And also be in international first class on a brandy-new plane from my town to SLC. Guh. The shorter leg of the trip.

#FWP #BLM!
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Posted: Jun 12, 2020 - 12:40pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
Stuff making the rounds at The Other Place trying to convince people NOT to go to Tulsa next week to protest shithead's redneck rally.  This thing is no doubt a brainchild of that wannabe nazi Stephen Miller and there's little doubt that there will be right-wing provocateurs there to insure that any peaceful demonstration is turned into a brutal shitshow. Nothing would energize shithead's racist base more than images of disorder and looting - because they know that only their hero can stop it.
 
You need some of these...


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Posted: Jun 12, 2020 - 12:28pm

Stuff making the rounds at The Other Place trying to convince people NOT to go to Tulsa next week to protest shithead's redneck rally.  This thing is no doubt a brainchild of that wannabe nazi Stephen Miller and there's little doubt that there will be right-wing provocateurs there to insure that any peaceful demonstration is turned into a brutal shitshow. Nothing would energize shithead's racist base more than images of disorder and looting - because they know that only their hero can stop it.
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Posted: Jun 12, 2020 - 11:13am

 KarmaKarma wrote:
Defund the police!
or
Law and order!

Pick a lane.
 
Defund the police!!! 
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Posted: Jun 12, 2020 - 3:01am

 KarmaKarma wrote:

.. Biden has a plan
 

Trump has already toasted all those who were halfway competent and has a habit of firing everyone after a short stint.. (he only seems to feel comfortable in a disruptive environment, probably cos then everyone is drawn down to his level). So we can expect this pattern to continue, or even get worse. If you like drama and chaos, he's your man. 

Biden is by no means a first choice, but at least he can hold a team of half-way competent people together. 

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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 4:07pm



 kurtster wrote:

I have not forgotten.  It is not a question that I take lightly. Nor is it easy to answer.  I already have some thoughts.  Just need to organize them.
 
 Take your time. No need to hurry. 

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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 3:49pm

 steeler wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Kind of a dodge there. 

I will then infer that you are okay with this kind of behaviour and have no problem with your neighborhood being taken over by activists.

But then you also infer it to be a problem.

So yeah, a dodge.
 
No, it is not. 

This is the conclusion of the  post to which you responded “yep”, with the bold facing provided by you:

This is America's future if Donald Trump doesn't win in November.

I replied that I would take my chances — i.e., I rejected the notion that only the re-election of Trump would prevent Antifa takeovers of our cities. In my response to your further questions, I went broader: I reject the notion that the re-election of Trump is the only way we can avoid chaos and financial ruin in this country.

You now seem to have divorced your questions from the original statement that only the re-election of Trump will prevent Antifa takeovers of our cities. That is the statement to which I was responding. I will take my chances because I firmly believe the harm 4 more years of Trump will cause this country will far outweigh any harm that may occur because he no longer holds that office.

By the way, I am curious about your responses to the myriad questions I posed in my last response to you regarding the existence of a Deep State.
 
I have not forgotten.  It is not a question that I take lightly. Nor is it easy to answer.  I already have some thoughts.  Just need to organize them.
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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 3:21pm


steeler

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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 11:47am



 kurtster wrote:

Kind of a dodge there. 

I will then infer that you are okay with this kind of behaviour and have no problem with your neighborhood being taken over by activists.

But then you also infer it to be a problem.

So yeah, a dodge.
 
No, it is not. 

This is the conclusion of the  post to which you responded “yep”, with the bold facing provided by you:

”This is America's future if Donald Trump doesn't win in November.”

I replied that I would take my chances — i.e., I rejected the notion that only the re-election of Trump would prevent Antifa takeovers of our cities. In my response to your further questions, I went broader: I reject the notion that the re-election of Trump is the only way we can avoid chaos and financial ruin in this country.

You now seem to have divorced your questions from the original statement that only the re-election of Trump will prevent Antifa takeovers of our cities. That is the statement to which I was responding. I will take my chances because I firmly believe the harm 4 more years of Trump will cause this country will far outweigh any harm that may occur because he no longer holds that office.

By the way, I am curious about your responses to the myriad questions I posed in my last response to you regarding the existence of a Deep State.
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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 11:02am

 steeler wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

You'll take your chances how ?

.
That this kind of activity will not spread

 - or-

You're okay with this stuff and would not object to your neighborhood being taken over like in Seattle ?
 

I will take my chances that Trump not being President will result in chaos and financial ruin throughout the country. In sum, I reject the notion that Trump is the only one who can fix (insert problem here). 

 
Kind of a dodge there. 

I will then infer that you are okay with this kind of behaviour and have no problem with your neighborhood being taken over by activists.

But then you also infer it to be a problem.

So yeah, a dodge.
Steely_D

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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 10:28am

Whataboutism as a strategy got old and obvious many moons ago.
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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 10:23am



 steeler wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

You'll take your chances how ?

.
That this kind of activity will not spread

 - or-

You're okay with this stuff and would not object to your neighborhood being taken over like in Seattle ?
 

I will take my chances that Trump not being President will result in chaos and financial ruin throughout the country. In sum, I reject the notion that Trump is the only one who can fix (insert problem here). 

 



steeler

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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 9:39am



 kurtster wrote:

You'll take your chances how ?

.
That this kind of activity will not spread

 - or-

You're okay with this stuff and would not object to your neighborhood being taken over like in Seattle ?
 

I will take my chances that Trump not being President will result in chaos and financial ruin throughout the country. In sum, I reject the notion that Trump is the only one who can fix (insert problem here). 

kurtster

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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 9:25am

 steeler wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Yep.
 

I’ll take my chances.
 
You'll take your chances how ?

.
That this kind of activity will not spread

 - or-

You're okay with this stuff and would not object to your neighborhood being taken over like in Seattle ?
KarmaKarma

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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 7:26am



 Lazy8 wrote:
KarmaKarma wrote:
Also - the anarchists in Portland & Seattle have built border walls around what they've seized to keep y'all out.

Border walls.  Imagine that.

Probably a different purpose in mind, or they aren't anarchists.

Nobody would mind the idea of a wall if it included working doors, but then you wouldn't need a wall, would you?
 

I imagine that those who have businesses, jobs, or even homes inside these compounds are completely fine with having a new set of walls -with or without doors - keeping the undesirables out.  And of course the decision to construct these walls and barriers was first approved by all the people affected ...

A day of reckoning is coming, I think.  Multiple days, actually.  First the anarchists will be dealt with, one way or another.  Then the politicians.
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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 7:18am

KarmaKarma wrote:
Also - the anarchists in Portland & Seattle have built border walls around what they've seized to keep y'all out.

Border walls.  Imagine that.

Probably a different purpose in mind, or they aren't anarchists.

Nobody would mind the idea of a wall if it included working doors, but then you wouldn't need a wall, would you?
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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 7:08am

Also - the anarchists in Portland & Seattle have built border walls around what they've seized to keep y'all out.

Border walls.  Imagine that.
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Posted: Jun 11, 2020 - 6:57am

I'm  wondering about the many business owners who managed to survive the coronavirus lockdowns in Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, and other liberal majority cities and what they're thinking this last week or two.  Some had managed to just get started back up again - only to see prompt closures due to the rioting.  And then many had their businesses burned, vandalized, & looted.  

After the riots and destruction - still not yet over,  the ongoing civil disobedience in several cities and the damaging campaign against the police — I suspect many are thinking 'Okay, it's been a nice run.... time to pull the plug (or setup biz elsewhere)'.  Say goodbye to those jobs, forever.  And keep waiting for any breathless media reporting on how the riots have impacted jobs and the local economy.

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