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callum

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Mar 24, 2010 - 8:16pm |
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Perhaps a lot of people just need to remember to take their blood pressure pills before they write an email/send a letter of complaint/go to protest. It probably happens on both sides of any argument. Lets just hope that we know more people who have some self-control and a reasonable idea of acceptable adult behavior?
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ScottFromWyoming

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Mar 24, 2010 - 8:13pm |
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Beaker wrote:This is amusing because you want us to believe McCain would have politely assured them their bonuses were fine, just fine? Oh, wait, you're probably right. That article is from 2 months after Obama took office. Yeah you don't want people going off half-cocked just because the Prez is pissed but I appreciated having the president at least seem as though he was as angry as the rest of us. Beaker wrote: You conveniently skipped by the primary point - Barry and your Congressional Democrats laid down the precedent.
I'm not seeing it. I think the hostility toward AIG was truly nonpartisan. And certainly not exacerbated to any great degree, or instigated by Obama et al.
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(former member)

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Mar 24, 2010 - 8:06pm |
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Beaker wrote:1) Yup, its wrong. Really really wrong. 2) But guess who went there first? Your 'effin' great supah fantastic, he the enlightened one, POTUS Barry O. Recall his public harangues of the financial institutions, recall his shrieking on the bonuses being paid to the execs at AIG. Said public harangues by your fucking amateur-hour president brought upon this: Employees Fear for Their Lives: The Other AIG OutrageBarack Hussain I-Am-Unprepared-to-hold-this-office Obama brought that, along with the Dem-majority Congress, by their very own statements and Obama's abject failure at leadership. 3) And you fear what a dimwitted washed-up former Governor from the podunk backwater of Alaska can do? Give me a fucking break. 1) It's wrong. No argument. 2) Talk about issues and I listen. Stoop to schoolyard bully name calling and lose credibility. 3) Shouldn't we all?
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ScottFromWyoming

Location: Powell Gender:  
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Mar 24, 2010 - 8:05pm |
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islander wrote:Yes, she did:  And the general tone of the language from the Republican side definitely has a violent subtext. I'm really surprised it is not being called out more. Simple protest was Unamerican a couple of years ago, I'm wondering where the outrage is now? Those look like registration marks! Maybe she just wants to get a lot of people registered to vote!
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Lazy8

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Mar 24, 2010 - 7:46pm |
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hippiechick wrote:Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin rolled out a list of Democratic members of Congress she intends to target for defeat this year...
“We’ll aim for these races and many others,” she wrote. “This is just the first salvo in a fight to elect people across the nation who will bring common sense to Washington.”
OMG it's a smoking gun! Jeebus. Try this simple trick: Google "democrats target congressional seats" and see how many hits you get. This is standard political rhetoric.
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musik_knut

Location: Third Stone From The Sun Gender:  
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Mar 24, 2010 - 6:59pm |
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islander wrote: Yelling 'You Lie' at the president seems to have done well for Wilson's fund raising efforts. I don't know about the 'baby killer' guy, but I suspect he'll do okay as well. When a lack of civility becomes an effective fund raising mechanism, then you can expect to see more of it. When leaders behave in an uncivil manner, should we really be surprised if their followers do the same?
I understand Mr. Stupak's rival is doing quite well after Mr. Stupak was snookered and let fall from his integrity, a principled stand on life.
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Mugro

Location: Grand Duchy of Luxembourg 
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Mar 24, 2010 - 6:13pm |
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hippiechick wrote: Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin rolled out a list of Democratic members of Congress she intends to target for defeat this year...
“We’ll aim for these races and many others,” she wrote. “This is just the first salvo in a fight to elect people across the nation who will bring common sense to Washington.”
Yeah, it's a f**king big deal!!
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hippiechick

Location: topsy turvy land Gender:  
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Mar 24, 2010 - 6:08pm |
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islander wrote:Yes, she did:  And the general tone of the language from the Republican side definitely has a violent subtext. I'm really surprised it is not being called out more. Simple protest was Unamerican a couple of years ago, I'm wondering where the outrage is now? Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin rolled out a list of Democratic members of Congress she intends to target for defeat this year... “We’ll aim for these races and many others,” she wrote. “This is just the first salvo in a fight to elect people across the nation who will bring common sense to Washington.”
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islander

Location: West coast somewhere Gender:  
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Mar 24, 2010 - 5:56pm |
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Lazy8 wrote:
Sarah Palin put crosshairs on a map? The article you quoted just said "a conservative activist", but maybe they meant Sarah Palin. Are there any other "a conservative activists"?
Yes, she did:  And the general tone of the language from the Republican side definitely has a violent subtext. I'm really surprised it is not being called out more. Simple protest was Unamerican a couple of years ago, I'm wondering where the outrage is now?
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Lazy8

Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:  
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Mar 24, 2010 - 5:45pm |
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dmax wrote:Imagine a reasonable Republican being elected into office. And then the line-cutters and the boys with bats show up, empowered by their bullying in the community. Then how does the reasonable Congressman behave (and we know you got a family, and lots of nice windows, Congressman...)? It doesn't matter what philosophy ANYone elected into power has if we allow mob rule to steer our politics. Accepting it now with a nod or a wink, in order to influence this law or any other one - just sets the stage for the same to happen in the future.
This is not where our country should be heading, and should be repudiated and actively discouraged.
Instead, we get Palin with her crosshairs on a map showing these bullies where to head with their weapons. Can people not see what's wrong with that?
Wow. You sure can connect some dots there. So every act of political dirty tricks should be laid at the feet of anybody opposing the same thing? I opposed this measure too. Am I now a cross burner, or do I have to join the Republican party first? And do I have to pay dues, or would registering to vote in their primaries count? That seems like a lot of effort; what if I just get a bumper sticker? Sarah Palin put crosshairs on a map? The article you quoted just said "a conservative activist", but maybe they meant Sarah Palin. Are there any other "a conservative activists"? You're engaging in innuendo and guilt by...well, not even association really. Should the Democratic party be blamed for every rant on MoveOn.org and the Huffington Post? If we judge a political party by what its looniest allies do then maybe nobody should ever be elected, ever.
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islander

Location: West coast somewhere Gender:  
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Mar 24, 2010 - 4:47pm |
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Lazy8 wrote: dmax wrote:This is who expects to hold office at the next elections? We would let this type of person run your country? Are you sure you want this? For goodness sake, think about what's going on here. So which of these bad bad people will be running for office? Be sure to name names! Seriously, congressmen cutting gas lines and sending death threats? Or are they just running for city council or something? Yelling 'You Lie' at the president seems to have done well for Wilson's fund raising efforts. I don't know about the 'baby killer' guy, but I suspect he'll do okay as well. When a lack of civility becomes an effective fund raising mechanism, then you can expect to see more of it. When leaders behave in an uncivil manner, should we really be surprised if their followers do the same?
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(former member)

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Mar 24, 2010 - 4:46pm |
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Manbird wrote: plus, was it a gas line on a car or a gas line to a house? Because, hey, there's a difference - if it was a petrol line I would still vote for him. Not so much the natural gas line.
Frijoles at the buffet. That gas line. Nuff said.
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(former member)

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Mar 24, 2010 - 4:46pm |
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Lazy8 wrote: dmax wrote:This is who expects to hold office at the next elections? We would let this type of person run your country? Are you sure you want this? For goodness sake, think about what's going on here. So which of these bad bad people will be running for office? Be sure to name names! Seriously, congressmen cutting gas lines and sending death threats? Or are they just running for city council or something? Imagine a reasonable Republican being elected into office. And then the line-cutters and the boys with bats show up, empowered by their bullying in the community. Then how does the reasonable Congressman behave ( and we know you got a family, and lots of nice windows, Congressman...)? It doesn't matter what philosophy ANYone elected into power has if we allow mob rule to steer our politics. Accepting it now with a nod or a wink, in order to influence this law or any other one - just sets the stage for the same to happen in the future. This is not where our country should be heading, and should be repudiated and actively discouraged. Instead, we get Palin with her crosshairs on a map showing these bullies where to head with their weapons. Can people not see what's wrong with that?
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Manbird

Location: La Villa Toscana Gender:  
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Mar 24, 2010 - 4:45pm |
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Lazy8 wrote: dmax wrote:This is who expects to hold office at the next elections? We would let this type of person run your country? Are you sure you want this? For goodness sake, think about what's going on here. So which of these bad bad people will be running for office? Be sure to name names! Seriously, congressmen cutting gas lines and sending death threats? Or are they just running for city council or something? plus, was it a gas line on a car or a gas line to a house? Because, hey, there's a difference - if it was a petrol line I would still vote for him. Not so much the natural gas line.
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Lazy8

Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:  
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Mar 24, 2010 - 4:42pm |
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dmax wrote:This is who expects to hold office at the next elections? We would let this type of person run your country? Are you sure you want this? For goodness sake, think about what's going on here. So which of these bad bad people will be running for office? Be sure to name names! Seriously, congressmen cutting gas lines and sending death threats? Or are they just running for city council or something?
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(former member)

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Mar 24, 2010 - 4:36pm |
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this article wrote:At least 10 House Democrats who voted Sunday for health care overhaul have received violent threats to their lives or property, party leaders said today. Connecticut Democrat on health reform: "More action and correction" coming soon. Several members have faced death threats and harassing phone calls while others have experienced vandalism at district offices or their private homes. In one case, a gas line was cut outside the Virginia home of Rep. Tom Perriello'sbrother after a conservative activist posted the address online, mistakenly thinking it was the congressman's house. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is investigating. So one of the commentaries note that there "isn't a difference between broken windows and stolen money." This is who expects to hold office at the next elections? We would let this type of person run your country? Are you sure you want this? For goodness sake, think about what's going on here. You might a reasonable moderate Republican, but you'll be just as governed as a liberal Democrat if you put thick-headed, violent simpletons into power.
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Yibbyl

Location: Gaäd only knows Gender:  
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Mar 24, 2010 - 2:58pm |
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rosedraws wrote: I like the way that list is set up, but it's OLD!!
Is it? Damn!  (edit) So this link isn't as handy, but you can get there from here.
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donna_birichina

Location: in the middle Gender:  
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Mar 24, 2010 - 2:58pm |
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dmax wrote: I'll let you know when I'm hiring again.
 So you're the one who keeps giving these people jobs!
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rosedraws

Location: close to the edge Gender:  
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Mar 24, 2010 - 2:55pm |
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Yibbyl wrote:Are you really disgusted by this "sudden" lack of effort? Upset that you are represented by a lazy quitter? Do you really think you could do a better job? Continue to bitch (the real American way) or do something about it (like our founders did)! Email addresses of US Senators I like the way that list is set up, but it's OLD!!
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Yibbyl

Location: Gaäd only knows Gender:  
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Mar 24, 2010 - 2:48pm |
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Are you really disgusted by this "sudden" lack of effort? Upset that you are represented by a lazy quitter? Do you really think you could do a better job? Continue to bitch (the real American way) or do something about it (like our founders did)! Email addresses of US Senators
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